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roy-algriffin
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posted October 12, 2007 04:35 AM |
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But, That would make the situation no better or no worse because youd need an army for that!Or maybe worse because theyd be killing each other and would be developing a nuke anyway with smuggled resources.
(full circle!)
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posted October 12, 2007 04:41 AM |
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What if they just hijack another plane?
And, as for stopping Iran, we wouldn't just ask them. If they refuse the deal, we would blockade them.
and the nuclear bomb is up one of the Iranians asses? that doesnt wwork dude.
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posted October 12, 2007 04:44 AM |
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I'm not against the army. I have great respect for our military. I am against the unconstitutional invasion of a sovereign state and the systematic oppression of its people while maintaining a hypocritical stance that we are "making their lives better".
We could blockade Iran. With ships. No one of significance trades with Iran.
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and the nuclear bomb is up one of the Iranians asses? that doesnt wwork dude.
What?
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roy-algriffin
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posted October 12, 2007 05:42 AM |
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With ships. tis the army, Call it one way or another thats a kind of "opression" too.
You might be making their lives better. maybe in a scenario where iraq didnt get invaded theyd just be opressed by their own goverment and would have multiple civil wars
And theres also the general idea that if youd have never come it would have been better then if you came and left now. Now that youve come youd do more damage by withdrawing. Now i know you dont care, but its more damage to yourself as well. bloacking? are you joking? you might be able to blockade cuba because its pretty much an island but iraq isnt exactly encircled by the ocean here. And smugglers will always work in exchange for oil.Its the main reason you have all the problems today, that people will do anything because of greed.
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mvassilev
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posted October 12, 2007 02:00 PM |
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With ships. tis the army, Call it one way or another thats a kind of "opression" too.
The point is that the Iranians would be able to do something to end the blockade: make a deal with us. Iraqis can't do anything like that.
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You might be making their lives better. maybe in a scenario where iraq didnt get invaded theyd just be opressed by their own goverment and would have multiple civil wars
Of course Saddam Hussein was a cruel and oppressive dictator. But at least Iraqis could go about their business safely back then, without worrying about bombings and other violence.
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And theres also the general idea that if youd have never come it would have been better then if you came and left now. Now that youve come youd do more damage by withdrawing. Now i know you dont care, but its more damage to yourself as well.
We've done damage to ourselves by staying. We've hurt the way we're seen internationally, we've fallen deep into debt, and many of our soldiers have been killed. We should stop doing damage to ourselves and get out.
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bloacking? are you joking? you might be able to blockade cuba because its pretty much an island but iraq isnt exactly encircled by the ocean here. And smugglers will always work in exchange for oil.Its the main reason you have all the problems today, that people will do anything because of greed.
Smugglers can't feed a whole country.
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roy-algriffin
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posted October 12, 2007 11:21 PM |
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Sea trade cant feed a whole country either 
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We could blockade Iran. With ships
What i mean to say is, You said your going to withdraw. then you said you will blockade them with ships. now im saying that it wont bother them due to smugglers going on land or plane trading for oil.Now your saying it cant feed a country. but the sea alone cant either, And if the sea alone cant they can revert to the other sources
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mvassilev
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posted October 12, 2007 11:50 PM |
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posted October 13, 2007 01:25 AM |
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Mvass, what happens when they get supplied by all the countries around them that hate the US? That will just cement our reputation as a bullying country that picks on defensless, "innocent" Middle Eastern countries for fun even more. Baaaaad idea.
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roy-algriffin
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posted October 13, 2007 02:58 AM |
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what an image. Same thing of isreal too id assume then. Kinda mean considering that some conquerers throughout history have killed people and some are quite revered or at least respected.
Anyway they may be defenseless but certainly not innocent. thats just silly. and theyre only defenseless because of lack of organization and a tendency to fight among themselves and to send off people as suicide bombers instead of organizing a proper army
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mvassilev
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posted October 13, 2007 03:50 AM |
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Mvass, what happens when they get supplied by all the countries around them that hate the US?
The Shi'ites hate the Sunnis, and the Sunnis hate the Shi'ites. They're not going to help each other. And they definitely don't want Iran to get nuclear weapons.
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posted October 17, 2007 04:07 PM |
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Strange Things Afoot In The Northern Part Of Iraq
The news is saying Turkey is about to invade the northern part of Iraq. Now they are saying Bush is holding a press conference today. I do not fully understand but I think the Kurds in the north are also on some Turkish lands. I think they wish to seperate and form their own nation. This would mean taking land from Turkey.
I know for a fact that Turkey is a nuclear capable nation. I believe the U.S. gave them nukes during the cold war.
I also believe that the democrats are being blamed for Turkey's enragement. I fully disagree with this and I fully support the genocide bill.
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posted October 17, 2007 11:31 PM |
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i dont realise why do the turks so much Do-not want to agree in it,even if they did coused genocide to the armanians,i mean taking the blame doesnt nessery means its "Turky" fualt... i mean no body blames europe for the massacares of muslims and jews in the crusade,no one hunts the inqueistion for its brutal ways? the american are not paying some kind of "imsorryfee" to the indian. The british dont to Hindos,and etc..
It was war,it was long time ago,and it wasnt' a genocide,even if it was so what? best to do by the turks is to accept it,and try to rebuild peace.
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texcaboose
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posted October 18, 2007 04:07 AM |
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You might be making their lives better. maybe in a scenario where iraq didnt get invaded theyd just be opressed by their own goverment and would have multiple civil wars
Of course Saddam Hussein was a cruel and oppressive dictator. But at least Iraqis could go about their business safely back then, without worrying about bombings and other violence.
Safely?!?!?!?! are you serious? you obviously know absolutely nothing about Saddam... He could kill ANYONE HE WANTED because anyone that tried to stop him was KILLED. I don't think walking around with the constant threat of having your wife and kids raped and killed for fun is much safer than a bomb going off next to you... Honestly, I'd rather take my chances with the bombings...
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posted November 02, 2007 03:31 AM |
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At least parents could send their kids to school under Saddam.
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posted November 08, 2007 11:48 PM |
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it would not be possible for a plane to leave iran, fly to the united states, and drop a bomb without us figuring it out and swatting that plane out of the sky... it just wouldn't get past us, our radar/satelites are way too advanced to let some crap like that slide...
What's with this "We we us us" stuff? Face it, you mean as much to the American government as Iraqees do; Nothing. That's why 9/11 happened. If "your" radars and satelites were as advanced as you say, then either 9/11 wouldn't have happened, or some people were playing a very disgusting game. Which is it?
There's no "we".
At the most you'll be in the military and be a part of their cannonfodder while the American bussiness men make snowloads of money over this war, safe at home.
Thank god they have people like you who support them, and allow them to take away your privacy under the retarded guise of 'war against terror'.
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roy-algriffin
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posted November 09, 2007 12:08 AM |
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Lol that makes me laugh? american troops are cannon fodder? In iraq? are you serious? Look at how the iraqis blow themselves up and Tell me who the real cannon fodder is. Bet youd feel really loved if you were born iraqi.
Im still curios sometimes if your any better then those big buisnessmen. Youd avoid the war entirely if you were into buisness even if it made you a profit...Right?
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Moonlith
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posted November 09, 2007 12:14 AM |
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Lol that makes me laugh? american troops are cannon fodder? In iraq? are you serious? Look at how the iraqis blow themselves up and Tell me who the real cannon fodder is. Bet youd feel really loved if you were born iraqi.
Im still curios sometimes if your any better then those big buisnessmen. Youd avoid the war entirely if you were into buisness even if it made you a profit...Right?
How many losses have they got so far? Around more than 30.000 right? Guess who gives a damn? NOT the government!
That's what I mean with Cannonfodder. They mean nothing. The only thing the big boys care about is making profits out of this war, while you are cheering them on; "GO war for peace and freedom!"
One shouldn't be talking about "we" or "us" when he himself is merely sitting at home proclaiming American awesomeness.
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posted November 09, 2007 01:40 AM |
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How many losses have they got so far? Around more than 30.000 right? Guess who gives a damn? NOT the government!
US losses by war:
3,858 - Iraq
58,000 - Vietnam
33,686 - Korean War
291,557 - WWII
117,000 - WWI
2,446 - Spanish American War
498,332 - Civil War (364,511 Union, 133,821 Confederate)
I don't think I need to go back any further.
Get your facts straight before posting in this thread, PrivateHudson would be ashamed of you.
It's all about perspective. less than 4,000 died in Iraq so far, more than 75 times that died in WWII.
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posted November 09, 2007 01:46 AM |
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How many losses have they got so far? Around more than 30.000 right? Guess who gives a damn? NOT the government!
US losses by war:
3,858 - Iraq
58,000 - Vietnam
33,686 - Korean War
291,557 - WWII
117,000 - WWI
2,446 - Spanish American War
498,332 - Civil War (364,511 Union, 133,821 Confederate)
I don't think I need to go back any further.
Get your facts straight before posting in this thread, PrivateHudson would be ashamed of you.
It's all about perspective. less than 4,000 died in Iraq so far, more than 75 times that died in WWII.
Oh, "Only 4000", yeah that totally ruins the ENTIRE point I was trying to make alright 
Great post.
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mvassilev
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posted November 09, 2007 02:00 AM |
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Of course this isn't a conflict of WWII scale. We shouldn't belittle its importance, however.
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