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SylverWulf
SylverWulf

Tavern Dweller
easy target
posted March 14, 2005 12:35 AM

Yes..they are very slow to build up.No arguement there! I generally use the wasports until I can build up enough mantis to compliment my army..I am a ranged attack army and the mantis adds some extra muscle when needed.I generally carry along a cleric of some skill and she can keep the mantis alive long enough for victory!
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terje_the_ma...
terje_the_mad_wizard


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Supreme Hero
Disciple of Herodotus
posted March 14, 2005 12:57 AM

You use Waspworts? I never do that. They may be brilliant for town defense, but for use on the adventure map, they're just too slow. That's why I choose either Air (Speed and Fly) or Fire (Average paced ranged firepower with decent HP) Elementals...
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SylverWulf
SylverWulf

Tavern Dweller
easy target
posted March 14, 2005 04:26 AM

Lol...good point! Never really thought about that. I am just used to the damage alot of them can create,not really paying attention to that detail! I guess I better re-think my strategies! A very good point you made...no wonder it is hard for me to track down a fleeing army!
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terje_the_ma...
terje_the_mad_wizard


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Supreme Hero
Disciple of Herodotus
posted March 14, 2005 10:11 PM

Well, you know, if you can show up where your enemy doesn't expect you to be, or not be where he expects you to, you're halfway to victory.
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csarmi
csarmi


Supreme Hero
gets back
posted March 15, 2005 01:28 PM

Why don't you do the calculations with phoenixes, mantises or behemoths?

1 black dragon vs 2 phoenixes
Black Dragon does 40-80 damage
Phoenix does 32-46 damage

Phoenixes wait. Black Dragon waits.
Black Dragon does 65 damage. Phoenixes retaliate for 75 damage.
Phoenixes do 72 damage. Black Dragon retaliates for 71 damage.

Phoenixes do 88 damage. (no retal)
Black Dragon does 43 damage. (no retal)

Phoenixes wait. Black Dragon waits.
Black Dragon does 64 damage. Phoenixes retaliate for 79 damage.
Phoenixes cast rebirth (+110 hp).

Phoenixes wait.
Black Dragon does 57 damage.
Phoenixes do 77 damage. Black Dragon retaliates for 71 damage.

Phoenixes kill the Dragon. Dragon retaliates for 44 damage.

Result: 2 phoenixes left.

Correction: phoenixes must play more carefully; because one bird has to die actually to be able to use rebirth. However, rebirth seems to give back 165 hp for 2 phoenixes (30%).

1 black dragon vs 2 behemoths
black dragon: 64-129 damage
behemoth: 50-72 damage

Black Dragon waits.
Behemoths defend.
Black dragon does 83 damage (51-103), behemoths do 128 damage.

Black dragon does 97 damage.
Behemoths wait.
Behemoths do 119 damage, black dragon does 73 damage. 1 behemoth dies.

Black Dragon waits.
Behemoth does 67 damage.
Black Dragon does 85 damage, behemoth does 63 damage.

Behemoth gets good morale. Behemoth kills black dragon, black dragon does 107 damage.

result: one behemoth alive with almost zero hp.

2 mantises defeat one dragon easily, on 3vs2 it's about equal (dragons win by a smal margin)

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terje_the_ma...
terje_the_mad_wizard


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Disciple of Herodotus
posted March 16, 2005 11:34 PM

Hmm, since I don't know the retaliation rules, I suppose the results for the ones I tested could be different...
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SylverWulf
SylverWulf

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easy target
posted March 17, 2005 05:22 AM

Just playing around...had 6 Mantis' and a cleric who can cast guardian angel with 6 angels...the mantis' cleaned out an entire comp army!Wow! gotta love them!!

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gorthom
gorthom


Hired Hero
Has stealthy Gummy Bears
posted March 29, 2005 10:17 AM

What is best?

Blak dragons are the best! one blak dragon can kill 1 mantise( or 2) lol he can kill one titan and wat is there! So, u haw my vote






Sign: Death dragon rules!!!!!!!


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Paladin
Paladin


Adventuring Hero
Huh?
posted April 07, 2005 12:10 PM

Where are the angels?
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terje_the_ma...
terje_the_mad_wizard


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Supreme Hero
Disciple of Herodotus
posted April 08, 2005 01:34 AM

They're all dead.

Or they've gone into hiding to escape all the flaming their new looks has recieved from the H3 fanatics.
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lionharte
lionharte


Adventuring Hero
Paladin of Light
posted April 25, 2005 06:52 AM

BLACK DRAGONS!!!!  YAY FOR THE THING THAT'S MY FAVOURITE THING TO KILL!!!

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MysticEyes
MysticEyes


Adventuring Hero
Take care: you'll be blind!
posted May 03, 2005 06:12 PM

the really strongest troop!

In the Poll option there aren't genies!
They're powerful with their strong magic...
They're stronger when they're 25 or more (we can use mass spells).
I used In "A Wind of Thorns" compaign to allow my troops
to make a lot of damage against legions of enemies!
(They were associated with 4 heroes having a lot of mana and "song of peace"!)

Black dragons are the strongest troops.
But the really best troop is an hero having all combat skills to greatmaster level (better before Equilibris patch! and after a lot of update in attack and defence skills in melee and ranged attacks: about 150...).
One of my heroes in Hexis compaign was able to kill 5 dragons a hit (2 strikes for turn...).
Obviously he has other 3/4 magics (Life is a must to cure himself, Order/Nature are very useful to block troops see wisps or song of peace; Caos is good to become Guards of fire and be immune against Fire Shield of efreets!)

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Deathwish
Deathwish

Tavern Dweller
posted May 23, 2005 02:17 AM

I haven't seen devils be mentioned here.. how about 2 devils a week vs. 1 black dragon... 2 devils with 2 ice demons gotta be able to take that sucker out.. right?

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Thorin
Thorin


Adventuring Hero
posted September 08, 2005 01:47 PM

Dragons

Black Dragons fly, are immune to spells, and have Fiery Breath.They are also the creatures with the most HP. Isn't it obvious they're the best?
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watcher83
watcher83


Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
posted June 08, 2007 09:21 AM

the black dragon, by far I might add

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chandler
chandler


Bad-mannered
Hired Hero
posted July 14, 2007 03:25 AM

black dragon is the best
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LiZaRdMeN
LiZaRdMeN


Disgraceful
Known Hero
The king of Grimheim
posted August 15, 2007 08:44 PM

Mega dragon is the strongest creature in game

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sheensher
sheensher


Known Hero
and Slipknot FAn
posted September 18, 2007 08:46 PM

Quote:
Mega dragon is the strongest creature in game


But we must choose, from that creatures, what present us Wolfman

I choose Mantis. Black dragons are stronger, but I hate them
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BrennusWhiskey
BrennusWhiskey


Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
The quickest H4 player
posted September 30, 2007 10:31 PM

I chose Blackies; I play a lot online so u can believe my oppinion

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Oscarius
Oscarius


Famous Hero
*sleepy*
posted December 09, 2007 08:15 PM

1 thingy only, in the bigining blacki vs titan did u count atk, def and titans chaos ward??
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