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Shadow_Elf
Shadow_Elf


Wandering Thief
posted September 18, 2002 04:00 PM

Hero arena

in this game u can join at any time.

rules:
pick a hero from the homm 4 starting types ( lord, thief, priest etc )
then u can challenge other heroes to fights starting heroes have 100 life
4 kills = level
life goes up byt 10 per level
if u spell caster ask the spell master ( see below )
spellmaster is a helper who gives out the spells i would like to have djive do this cuz i feel hes a amazingguy about noing spells and such. spell masters may purticapate.
i or spellmaster piks the different things u get by going up in level.
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Shadow_Elf
Shadow_Elf


Wandering Thief
posted September 18, 2002 06:27 PM
Edited By: Shadow_Elf on 19 Sep 2002

wait for others and then fight

im playing as a :

sorcerer ( basic chaosmagic and sorcery ) and magic arrow i think something like 33 damage not sure.
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Wub
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Famous Hero
posted September 18, 2002 07:39 PM

Cool idea! I'd like to join too, but first I want to know more about the rules.

How exactly are the battles fought?
Who goes first (heroes have same speed)?
Can you learn new spells?
Can you acquire artifacts or other powerups when the time comes?
May I choose a secondary skill myself when I gain a level?

I am still thinking about what hero I want.

Btw...magic arrow does a LOT less damage @ level 1.


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Shadow_Elf
Shadow_Elf


Wandering Thief
posted September 18, 2002 07:46 PM

Quote:
Cool idea! I'd like to join too, but first I want to know more about the rules.

How exactly are the battles fought?
Who goes first (heroes have same speed)?
Can you learn new spells?
Can you acquire artifacts or other powerups when the time comes?
May I choose a secondary skill myself when I gain a level?

I am still thinking about what hero I want.

Btw...magic arrow does a LOT less damage @ level 1.



well wub u sure no lots um well battles are fought by err fighting battles i go and say hit some1 with magic arrow then its there turn they hit a me andso on

two well we'll have to make up a system either by level o type

three yes you can a buy them at magic store for certain amounts

four yes there is item shop

five well sorta only if u got the prequisites to it

and the way u get money is by killing ppl

u seem to kno much u wanna be the spellmaster?
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Wub
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Famous Hero
posted September 18, 2002 07:48 PM
Edited By: Wub on 18 Sep 2002

Fine to me to calculate spells, damage and stuff like that. Let's begin to say that magic arrow does 33 damage and poison 11 (just checked it). Both of you got 20 spell points.

A suggestion: is it an idea to begin with a somewhat higher starting level. This may become monotonous (there are too few possibilities I guess).
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Shadow_Elf
Shadow_Elf


Wandering Thief
posted September 18, 2002 07:59 PM

ah well we can rig it so theres lots of good strats
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Famous Hero
posted September 18, 2002 08:15 PM
Edited By: Wub on 18 Sep 2002

I figured you needed some more heroes. Can I join as a player too? I'd like to be a druid with the summon sprite spell. I can summon 6 of them every time I cast it, I have 20 spellpoints and my skills are basic nature magic and basic herbalism. Deal?

(I was also thinking about taking the summon leprechaun spell, but I guess lich_king wouldn't agree )
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Shadow_Elf
Shadow_Elf


Wandering Thief
posted September 19, 2002 07:32 AM
Edited By: Shadow_Elf on 19 Sep 2002

yup u can join

hmm what other heroes should there be ?

did i mention a mercenary camp where u can buy troops like in a store

wo wait i had an idea that will help thieves !! make it possible to do sea battles

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Wub
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Famous Hero
posted September 19, 2002 11:34 AM

Quote:

did i mention a mercenary camp where u can buy troops like in a store



Yeah, can you tell a bit more about how many money you get and how expensive the artifacts are that can be bought. Also, what do I gain when I win 1 battle. May I choose another spell or can I get some extra money?

Quote:

wo wait i had an idea that will help thieves !! make it possible to do sea battles



This will not help thieves. A level 1 thief begins without seamanship and that skill only affects creatures anyway. It's just lame to choose a thief as a starting hero if you ask me.

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Djive
Djive


Honorable
Supreme Hero
Zapper of Toads
posted September 19, 2002 12:47 PM

Hmmm....

I would like some more rules on how this should work.

Seems to me that my choice of assigning a certain spell will decide the combat.

You also need some way to address problems with Lords, Knights, Thieves and Death Knights who give themselves no bonuses at all to behin with and they don't earn any bonuses as they progress within their starting skill either. Do remember that all Tactics bonuses are applied only to your creatures and not to the Heroes own stats.

I'm also considering moving this 'strategic' topic to the Library, if you don't mind.
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Largo_LeGrande
Largo_LeGrande


Promising
Known Hero
from the Carribean
posted September 19, 2002 01:04 PM

Shouldn't this belong to rather to the tavern that library?
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Wub
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Famous Hero
posted September 19, 2002 06:07 PM

Quote:

Ok. I cast poison on Shadow_Elf's sorcerer ! It does 13 damage. Mana left 18. (Damn it I will lose)(bad class choice.)



Since I am the errr.. spellmaster, I am afraid I must correct you . Your poison does 11 damage (it does 13 damage at level 2 or 3). Guess it's my job... Anyway, it's shadow_elf's turn...poison inflicts 11 damage...shadow_elf has 89 hitpoints left.

Quote:

PS Maybe we should start at lvl.2 with Adv.First skill and Bas.Second skill)



You got my vote. I also think that we should get a bit more possibilities. I mean, look at the battle above: it is obvious what will be shadow_elf's next move and who will win. I propose that you may make a level 3 hero with one starting spell per magic school. You may choose any skills you want...even if they normally wouldn't be offered to you. This means you can make some exciting advanced classes. Maybe it is also an idea to keep the spells and/or skills you choose secret and only tell them to me (in that case I may not participate of course). It will make battle more exciting. And I would also like to know what you get when you win a fight (spells, money...?). Good ideas?
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Shadow_Elf
Shadow_Elf


Wandering Thief
posted September 20, 2002 08:26 AM
Edited By: Shadow_Elf on 20 Sep 2002

ill take level 2 also

and i cast magic arrow 33 damage and i dunno how much mana left





about mercenary camp and other shops ok u have 100 $ to start then u win a match get 100 more u use money to buy artifacts and units. right no theres these things to be bought

longsword 25
shield 10
dwarf 15
halfling 17
centaur 20

o and lordsget 150 at beggining and make 125 per win ( better level more money for win )

i think that the knights and death knights should have some troops and the levels or amountsgo up with level but letslet thieves have seeanship stealth and scoutin and let them buy stuff for a little cheaper

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tuapui
tuapui


Famous Hero
Poetic Psycho Baby BlackDragon
posted September 20, 2002 02:50 PM

I SUPPORT THE ELF!!!

OH WELL....the little black dragon sits in the audience with a bag of popcorn and a flag...cheering and jeering and eating.


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Shadow_Elf
Shadow_Elf


Wandering Thief
posted September 20, 2002 03:47 PM

LoL tuapai
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Djive
Djive


Honorable
Supreme Hero
Zapper of Toads
posted September 20, 2002 05:00 PM

Quote:
Shouldn't this belong to rather to the tavern that library?


I could be in either... You'll find two of Thunder's Behold: Battle of XXXX in the Tavern and two in the Library. Since it's Heroes and strategy related I'd say Library is OK. Moving the thread to Library.

(Hopefully all involved will find it there.)
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Wub
Wub


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Famous Hero
posted September 20, 2002 08:09 PM
Edited By: Wub on 20 Sep 2002

All right, I guess we agree on the rules then. If I understand them right, here are the rules:

-You may choose a hero from any class. Non magic heroes will get other sorts of bonuses.

-You start out with 100 gold pieces. For every win you normally get 100 extra gold. With it you can buy creatures and/or arti's (for the exact rules, see shadow_elf's post)

-You may make your hero level 2, but you can only advance in a skill that you already have (so that you get one skill at advanced level and one at basic).

-If you know magic, you may choose one level one spell.

-after 4 wins, you gain a level. You may choose any skill.

I still have a lot of questions about random effects (moral etc.) and there should be made some changes, but these are the basics. I also want to earn spells and other artifacts than that lousy shield and longsword

Since all heroes were level 2 from the beginning, I must make some corrections in the battle between shadow_elf and lich_king (because I am the spellmaster). Shadow_elf's magic arrow does now do 36 damage and lich_king's poison 12. It is now lich_kings turn and he has 74 health left (level 2 heroes have 110 hp). Both heroes have 18 spell points and shadow_elf has 98 health left. Their skills are advanced (chaos/death) wisdom and basic (chaos/death) spellpoints.

My hero will not buy anything in the shop yet and he can still summon only 6 sprites. He has advanced nature magic and basic herbalism. I also want to challenge shadow_elf/lich_king for a fight. Who dares?
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tuapui
tuapui


Famous Hero
Poetic Psycho Baby BlackDragon
posted September 21, 2002 09:12 AM

I'll make a character too then! I'll be a level 2 dragon! Yup tt right! I'll specialise in advanced combat and basic melee! And i'll buy a dwarf! btw does the dwarf come with  ketchup and mustard?
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Famous Hero
posted September 21, 2002 10:19 AM
Edited By: Wub on 21 Sep 2002

Quote:

I dare ! your funny and pathetic sprites are no mach for "Life drain". By the way I want to change poison into "Raise skeleton".



All right! You may have the 'raise skeleton' spell then! You can raise up to 8 skeletons when you cast it. If I understood shadow_elf right, you may have only one level one spell, so you cannot cast 'life drain' (yet). If you disagree with that, just say so and we can change the rules if everybody agrees. If you think the rules are OK as they are now, I'd say that you make your first move and the battle will begin (I assume that your last battle with shadow_elf is cancelled now the rules have changed). Come on, hit me!

Quote:

I'll make a character too then! I'll be a level 2 dragon! Yup tt right! I'll specialise in advanced combat and basic melee! And i'll buy a dwarf! btw does the dwarf come with ketchup and mustard?



OK then! You now have 85 gold pieces left, since you bought that tasty dwarf. Just a reminder: if your dwarf dies in your first combat, it will not be resurrected or something for your second combat.

I'd say you can take basic magic resistance too. A level 1 barbarian starts with basic combat, melee and resistance, so that's why. So you are now a level 2 dragon (barbarian class) with advanced combat, basic melee and basic magic resistance. Good luck!


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tuapui
tuapui


Famous Hero
Poetic Psycho Baby BlackDragon
posted September 21, 2002 10:42 AM

I uh...ate my dwarf. So he cannot be ressurected huh? What if i uh...shiit it out and uh..use it? wait um....nevermind. Do skeletons taste good? i'll battle with Lich_king...Gimme some! I'm hungry!
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