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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: Real Life: Who is worse?
Thread: Real Life: Who is worse? This thread is 2 pages long: 1 2 · «PREV
bort
bort


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posted September 27, 2002 01:14 AM

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G.W. takes the cake


He's stealing confections now, too?  Wow.  He is evil.

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privatehudson
privatehudson


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posted September 27, 2002 01:16 AM

Let me geuss, does he also steal candy from little babies?

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Lith-Maethor
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posted September 27, 2002 02:27 PM

just for the record...

the original meaning of "barbarian" is "he who doesn't speak Greek" (as a Greek, I should know) ..due to the fact most of them were raiders (heh, we even fought the Vikings) the word ended up meaning "savage", "brutal", "uncivilized" etc...

as for who the Aryans where... beats me...it may have something to do with Ares though...
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privatehudson
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posted September 27, 2002 05:14 PM

I doubt it really matters who the aryans were origninally, what is the thing is who hitler saw them as and that had nothing much to do with the real origins of the race.
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posted September 27, 2002 09:58 PM

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I doubt it really matters who the aryans were origninally, what is the thing is who hitler saw them as and that had nothing much to do with the real origins of the race.


I think that if you want to have a serious discussion about a person (as evil as he might be) you must at first try to get into his head and understand why he did what he did. And to do so you must always take even the smallest details into concideration. Why did Hitler concider the Germans Aryans? I think he knew that they were not real Aryans, so why would he call them that? And what about his Jewish ancestors, did he know about them (I think he did)?

So who were the Aryans?

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They were a tribal and nomadic peoples living in the far reaches of Euro-Asia in hostile steppe lands barely scratching out a living. They were unquestionably a tough people, and they were fierce and war-like. Their religion reflects it dominated as it is by a storm-god or sky-god that enjoins warfare and conquest. This god was called something like "Dyaus," a word related to "Zeus," "deus" (the Latin word for "god"), "deva" (the Sanskrit word for "god"), and, of course, the English word "divine." Their culture was oriented around warfare, and they were very good at it. They were superior on horseback and rushed into battle in chariots. They were a tribal people ruled over by a war-chief, or raja (the Latin word "rex" (king) comes from the same root word, along with the English "regal"). Somewhere in the early centuries of the second millenium BC, they began to migrate southwards in waves of steady conquest across the face of Persia and the lands of India.

  There, they would take on the name "superior" or "noble" to distinguish themselves from the people they conquered. Their name is derived from the Indo-European root word, "ar," meaning "noble." In Sanskrit, they were the "Aryas" ("Aryans"); but that root, "ar," would also serve as the foundation of the name of the conquered Persian territories, "Iran." This concept of nobility, in fact, seems to lie at the heart of Indo-European consciousness, for it appears in another country's name, "Ireland," or "Eire." You can bet, however, that when a people go around calling themselves superior that it spells bad news for other people.



So there might be our answer, the Aryans were not the Germans but they had the same philosophy: they concidered themselves a master race. Maybe the Aryans were used as nothing but a metaphor by Hitler, or maybe he used the word Aryan with no relation to the Aryan race, but just by its meaning: noble.
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posted September 27, 2002 10:17 PM

In fact, I believe that Hitler might have gotten his idea of the "Aryan" from a famous philosopher named Nietzsche (I think I might have mispelled that), who believed in the idea that he is an "Ubermensch" (means something like super man, or over man), a new kind of man that is superior to all others before him. I think that Hitler might have gotten his ideas from him, and claimed the whole German race to be Ubermensches and that's why he wanted them to rule the Earth.
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Wolfman
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posted October 04, 2002 03:31 AM

Great Posts.

I put Franklin in there because I wondered if anyone would vote for him.
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tetsuya
tetsuya


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posted October 04, 2002 01:24 PM

Help my manhood is receding into my body So name my condistion shrink????
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tuapui
tuapui


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posted October 05, 2002 02:33 AM

do you know not how difficult it is to have franklins evil face staring at you from every street? He infests all hundred dollar greenbacks in the U.S and he's bad.
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Wolfman
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posted October 13, 2002 11:03 PM

Do you think your picture should be on them?
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