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Heroes Community > Heroes 4 - Lands of Axeoth > Thread: Bone Dragons or Devils
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Aquaman333
Aquaman333


Famous Hero
of the seven seas
posted August 14, 2003 05:40 AM

Bone Dragons 99% of the time.
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silx87
silx87


Supreme Hero
posted August 15, 2003 03:25 PM

I'd say devils
for other towns I choose t-birds,angels,titans and dragons
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Crash
Crash

Tavern Dweller
from another realm
posted August 17, 2003 12:32 PM

Devils, because they can summon ice demons.
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haile73
haile73


Promising
Famous Hero
posted August 20, 2003 10:20 AM

I prefer devils most of the time. It makes fighting the map a bit harder (although ice demons are nice fodder), but it pays off in endfights. Good chance to kill enemy heroes early on.

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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted August 20, 2003 11:49 AM

Quote:
a bit
make that several bits
depends on map..on poor maps..i think no good
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haile73
haile73


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Famous Hero
posted August 20, 2003 01:51 PM

hmmm, I never had any problems taking monk / minotaur treasuries or abb. mines with 1 hero, 1 devil and a bit fodder (preferably ghosts). By the time I wanted to attack tougher guards, I usually had vampiric touch or a uber-tactician, so that I lost no devils either.

Then again, I mostly play on intermed or adv difficulty (games take long enough already), so that might be different on higher diff.

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Arangar
Arangar


Famous Hero
Weak ranger - lost viking
posted August 20, 2003 02:04 PM

devils/bones - they are both bad :p

but I saw someone mention Titans??

Dragon golems people.. guess why

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Aquaman333
Aquaman333


Famous Hero
of the seven seas
posted August 21, 2003 03:46 AM

Bone Dragons
T-Birds
Phoenixes
Drag. Golems
Champs
Hydras
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mustafa620
mustafa620


Hired Hero
Royalty
posted August 27, 2003 10:46 PM

4th Level Creatures

Academy: Titans
Preserve: depends on which summon spell i have lol - usually Faerie Dragons, and then i summon Phoeni, since you barely ever lose the Dragons (spellcasters) but Phoeni are more offensive
Haven: Angels
Asylum: Black Dragons
Stronghold: Probably Thunderbirds
Necropolis: Hardest decision... I guess Devils
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emperorsly
emperorsly


Known Hero
Destroyer of Liver
posted August 28, 2003 10:38 AM

devil is the way to go...

several reasons for that.

a weak one: they are fastest on the adventure map (move 35) so if your hero is mighty enough to leave the vamps home you can ride on devils supafast. hardly ever happens though.

a medium one: devils are complementary to vamps while boners just try to do what vamps do -- reach enemy army at second battle round and bite and be strong. One nasty battle for death is e.g. magi behind the dwarves that are too far to be reached by vamps, or medusi behind nightmares etc. Bonedragons cant help here, but devils are able to go and kill the magi before they manage to do any harm.

an important one: devil is the only creature that can move nicely even after being slowed down. biggest threat to death is order, and from order heroes mass slow is only to be expected. unless you have your own order mage present, dispelling that can be difficult. your army is quite immobilized, but the movement of slowed down devil is 25 -- better than hasted vampires or normal blackies. you still manage to be dangerous on turn one

most important one: devil is the ultimate hero killer that needs no line of sight and that no-one can run from even if it is slowed. kill the enemy tactitian on turn one and thus reduce the attack strength of his entire army by 33%... or get rid of his dangerous top wizard. best yet -- it works wonders with cancellation. low level death mage can cancel the immo potion after which devil finishes the hero for good. of course the danger is that devil can get hypnotized, but luckily hypnotize is line of sight spell, so davils can be sit safe in the back row (after they come out from there, enemy no longer has anyone to hypnotize with). only one thing can stop devils from killing off enemy hero: berserk (no LOS!). but then the enemy cannot cast mass slow at the same time -- bon voyage, vampires....

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Tc_Fear
Tc_Fear


Famous Hero
posted August 28, 2003 11:27 AM

probably the only realy good chose done

devils - in rich map
bones in DD

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allu
allu


Known Hero
the supreme heroe
posted September 04, 2003 10:11 PM

devils

they are alive but it is a good thing and a bad too

but they can summon ice demons and bone dragons have that specalty that is bad fighting whit some shooter
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Kyuu
Kyuu


Hired Hero
posted October 02, 2003 02:34 PM

Bone Dargons because I like Dragons!
Devil because... I'm a Demon?

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csarmi
csarmi


Supreme Hero
gets back
posted October 13, 2003 12:57 PM

Just one thing to add. Devils are not faster on adventure map than Vampires. Both moves 30 - this is the maximum unmodified movement. Forget that 35 written (Vampire has 38 written BTW).
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Medusa
Medusa


Famous Hero
Yeah, right
posted October 13, 2003 01:50 PM bonus applied.

Bone Dragons
Attack  30  
Damage  45-65  
Growth 2  
Defense  30/60  
Health  275
Cost 4000+2C  
Move  28
Speed  5
Exp. Pts. 414
Abilities: Panic, Shot Resistance, Undead, Flying.


Devils
Attack  33  
Damage  34-50  
Growth 2  
Defense  33
Health  210  
Cost 4000+2S
Move  30
Speed  7  
Exp. Pts. 409
Abilities: Life Ward, Teleport, Summon Ice Demon.


Actually It's very hard to compare these creatures. Bonies are fast, hard to kill, and demons are not made to fight toe-to-toe with other 4 level strong creatures (but perfect for slaying heroes). But they summon Ice Demons, which are very useful. Bonies have a no retalation ability, which makes them stronger and better. The growth of the both creatures is the same, but I would choose Bonies (and I always do).




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UndeadLord
UndeadLord


Known Hero
posted November 05, 2003 04:26 PM

I like Bone Dragons better because of no retaliate it is very useful , BONES (Archer defence) and UNDEAD.
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csarmi
csarmi


Supreme Hero
gets back
posted November 05, 2003 09:15 PM

Bonies don't have no retaliation ability, only Fear. It's far from being the same.

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LordZXZX
LordZXZX


Famous Hero
Overfished
posted November 05, 2003 09:22 PM

If vampires were chosen, naturally i'd choose devils. I won't have enough crystals for the bone dragons then. On the other hand, bonies would be good if venom spawn were chosen instead. I find that bonies work better in smaller maps. Definitely a hard choice here
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Perji
Perji


Known Hero
Necromancer
posted November 07, 2003 12:47 PM

Bonies are the way to go! The only strong point in favor of devils is their greaaatt movement.... I mean teleport distance.... so you can just take an Order mage and teleport the Bonies wherever you want them..... That's what I usually do
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csarmi
csarmi


Supreme Hero
gets back
posted November 07, 2003 06:54 PM

Yea and it has just cost you a hero spell which is very expensive in real multi fights.

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