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Thread: Bone Dragons or Devils [ This thread is 5 pages long: 1 2 (3) 4 5 ]
doomnezeu
doomnezeu


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posted January 20, 2004 08:27 AM

Devils, of course. They look mean and have the summon ice thingies abillity
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Morphy
Morphy


Hired Hero
posted January 20, 2004 08:54 AM

I choose devils more often than bone dragons.
If you have 20 devils, and create 20 ice demons your army strenght will be much better. So I'd say you'll get more out of the devils than with the bone dragons...
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solmyr_ibn_barad


Adventuring Hero
Supreme God of Order
posted January 27, 2004 04:37 PM

4th level creatures

Ok let's discuss all the 4th level creatures here:
Starting with death
Boners vs Devils
Since HOMM3 (or 2 in fact), boners have recieved a MAJOR upgrade. They have the fear ability, which is basically no retaliate. This is excellent as no retaliate is one of my personal fave abilities. They are also fast and powerful. Devils are, in Mr T's words, hella fast, no pun intended on the hella. They can teleport anywhere which is a major bonus, but the boner's flying ability almost matches this as it too is hella fast. I also find that Devils are not too powerful compared to boners. The summon ice demon is nice, but ice demons are slow so its not nice enough really. Go for the boners.
Life:
Angels vs champions
No competition really, Champions are cheap and plentiful, but angels can fly, are much much more powerful and can RESURRECT which is tres nice.
Chaos:
Hydras vs Black Dragons
Hydras once again have the nice ability of multiple attack, but blackies are unquestionably the most powerful unit in the game (plus complete magic immunity), bit pricey though.
Order:
Titans vs Dragon Golems
Always go for the titans, why? coz theyre ranged and are generally better than D.Gs in every way (except abilities, first strike and no retaliate is nice). DGs are ultimately just too weak for my liking, they die far too easily.
Nature:
Faerie Dragons vs Phoenixes
This really depends on your fighting style. If you are an aggressive fighter then go for Phoenixes as they are fast, rather powerful and can be reborn. Faerie Dragons on the other hand are for the more passive player. They can cast some sweet spells and are good in stacks of one, and they also have magic mirror which will make the opponent think twice about that implosion spell! They can fare well when attacked but never NEVER get them to engage in melee combat, cuz they simply suck at that. My personal favourite, also fun to play.
Might:
Behemoths vs Thunderbirds
Thunderbirds are fast, plentiful, cheap, weak and have an OK attack. Behemoths are pretty much the opposite: slow, scarce, expensive, tough and a kick arse attack. If you have some ranged units in your army to lure the enemy towards you then Behemoths are the way to go. Thunderbirds just suck because too many of the die when attacking (and they are usually first to attack). I like not to waste my units and not to worry about them being wasted in the midst of battle.

Best lvl 4 creature:
IMHO, Titans are the best. Ranged, no melee penalty, strong, good attack, even better with precision (which is an order spell and one your mage hero is likely to learn) These guys are invincible. The only lvl 4 ranged creature. Thats reason enough for them to be the best.
Glad i could help in your strategic decisions.

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Asmodean
Asmodean


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posted January 28, 2004 04:18 PM

My fave advanced hero class is the Demonologist. So I usually go for the bone dragons, summon my devils and then summon ice demons.
Sorted.
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ihatemonday
ihatemonday

Tavern Dweller
posted February 01, 2004 06:51 AM

devils......

faster in movement.....have ability to summon ice demon.....
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Vince
Vince


Hired Hero
posted February 02, 2004 12:36 PM

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I prefer Devils.  When playing long SP campaigns and when you have a powerful hero, Devils movement really helps you get across the map quickly.  Devils are good at sieges becuz when a dumb creature gets away from its tower the devil will take over the tower.  Boners are also good at seiges becuz their fear will take the enemy off the tower.  But I like Devils more.  

But if i had to choose who to go against i would pick the devils becuz I can cast spells on them like blind, hypnotize, Hand of Death, etc.  Devils might hit my hero first but thats what potion of Immortality is for.  I don't like fighting against boners becuz they are big flying tanks (hard to kill).




Dingo, yes, I was reading through this thread and I had to get to the last message until someone finally mentioned their map movement rate.  If I'm not mistaken, Devils move at 37 when most of the very good movement rates of other creatures are in the high 20's at best.  I just finished the Death campaign for the original and those Devils really got me around like I never been moved around before.
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DrakeMaster2
DrakeMaster2


Adventuring Hero
known as goshimasta
posted February 07, 2004 07:26 AM

Newbie...

Hi I'm just a newbie and I like heroes.
I heard u guys discussing about bone drakes vs. devils.
I think devils are better.  
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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted February 07, 2004 07:37 AM

i ll have 2 bones welldone and 3 devils with their blood
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DrakeMaster2
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Adventuring Hero
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posted February 07, 2004 11:17 PM

Demongoligist, Witch King, Archmage, Skeletons, Ghosts, Vampires, Devils. That's my opinion.
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fortress_fan
fortress_fan

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posted January 28, 2006 08:32 AM

Devils rules!

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Evil_Warrior
Evil_Warrior


Famous Hero
Duke of Demon
posted January 29, 2006 04:31 AM

Bone Dragon is stronger. so it rules
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ArchLich
ArchLich

Tavern Dweller
posted March 02, 2006 02:25 PM

Devils against Haven, Bone Dragons anywhere else.
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ComradeX
ComradeX


Known Hero
Demands raising new Titan's HP
posted March 15, 2006 09:10 AM

Bone Dragons are the obvious choice.
Lets compare both creatures:
The Devil has a bit higher stats, can teleport and summon ice demons, has life ward.
The Bone Dragon is flying, skeletal, has great HP (275!) better damage and the nice fear effect.
If you are planning a war with life the Devil may be more useful because of its life ward, but otherwise take the Bone Dragons. The Bone Dragons are stronger, tougher and have better overall abilities. Just think of it that way: if you teleport a stack of Devils into thr enemy lines the stack will be swarmed and massacred (good tactic for distraction if you are willing to secrifice your strongest creatures) if you don't, where is the Devils advantege?
The Bone Dragons, compared to the Devils, are more solid. You advanve together with your other creature, thus avoiding the swarming risk, you jave partial resistance to ranget attacks, so the enemy won't waste shots on your Bone Dragons from afar, if at all, and you have the fear ability that in most cases acts as a "no retaliation" ability.
So take the Bone Dragons
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redprince24
redprince24


Hired Hero
posted March 23, 2009 09:56 AM

a tough choice...

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but i prefer Bone Dragons.

these beasts only can fly across the battlefield, while Devils can teleport everywhere they like. but because I always like to minimize losses in every combat, I prefer to train/build creatures with no-retaliation ability. Devils don't have one, so it makes the Devil's teleportation ability ineffective to minimize my losses.
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Konyev
Konyev


Hired Hero
posted April 26, 2009 01:54 PM

Bone Dragons usually
except against life.
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Lexxan
Lexxan


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Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
posted April 26, 2009 04:17 PM

Devils usually, I really like Their teleportation (= Good counter vs Shooters) and Summon Ice Demons. Bone Dragons are very tough, and nearly unbeatable with First Strike/Snake Strike buffing, but they really suck vs Ranged opponents... A matter of taste I suppose.
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Konyev
Konyev


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posted April 26, 2009 04:28 PM

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Devils usually, I really like Their teleportation (= Good counter vs Shooters) and Summon Ice Demons. Bone Dragons are very tough, and nearly unbeatable with First Strike/Snake Strike buffing, but they really suck vs Ranged opponents... A matter of taste I suppose.



Bone Dragons sucks vs ranged opponents?are you serious?.they have +100% ranged defence,granted the fear ability allows the ranged opponents to run away and shoot,but thats not big deal....

Devils can be good herocounter too...
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Fauch
Fauch


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
posted April 26, 2009 06:37 PM

devil : for the teleportation of course, but mainly to summon demons. if you have some imps with you and attack spellcasters, you may have enough mana to allow the devils to summon multiple time. not a bad idea against a barbarian who is likely to not cast spells for example.

phoenix : very fast + fire breath + rebirth = most powerful unit in the game. considering their growth of course

dragon golem : can attack and then retaliate without even getting hit. is unfortunately a walker. amazingly good against about every melee units, except other dragon golems.

angel : flyer + resurrection

hydra : a bit slow, but no retal + area attack is awesome. huge damaging potential.

never played stronghold. maybe I would choose thunderbird, because they fly. the fact that a part of the damage inflicted is magical might be useful againt an opponent with a high defence I guess. or if your tactician die.

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csarmi
csarmi


Supreme Hero
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posted May 01, 2009 04:53 PM

devil is obvious
teleport = hero-killer!
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Evasion
Evasion


Famous Hero
Groovy!
posted May 11, 2009 10:32 AM

Devil. I like ice demons and teleporting

(btw, it is 50% of the votes on the bone dragons and 50% of the votes on the devils!)
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