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bort
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posted November 02, 2002 09:06 PM |
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Don't even bother me with this crap
Sorry, I thought you wanted a "discussion." If you'd prefer, I'll just say "Yes Dunco, you are correct. Everything you say is right. Anyone who disagrees is a moron." Is that what you mean by discussion?
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lordlazy
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posted November 03, 2002 04:08 AM |
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Snogard...if someone has a racist thought that is not a crime..thinking is not a crime, but your words and your actions speak for your belives...
Bort... look racism is not an instict! Say what you want, give me some stupid scientifict reaserch that shows nothing but numbers, i don't care. Racism developed along with human civilizationn. it's a part of everyday life now, still it is not natural to hate people for differences.
You can bring in thousands of researchs that say that i don't know 95% of people like this and this think this way and this way...scinece and life are something different.
Don't even bother me with this crap
And i know you find my standing very rough or something, but if you have ever seen Nazis beating the crap out of people just before they were differet u would see my point and i also use my most-of-the-time motto : 'Fight Fire With Fire'.
What's the point in asking people what they think if you're so damn sure that you know all the right answers anyway????!!!!
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Damacon_Ace
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posted November 03, 2002 05:16 AM |
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Only one word can be said about racism... it is pure evil and unworthy in humanity.
Racism is one of the main reasons for many crimes, especially mass murder and terrorism, often more common than religious intolerance, sexism, or class. Racism is linked to far-right nationalism and neo-fascism, and it does NOT necessarily come from Aryan(northern white) people.
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dArGOn
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posted November 03, 2002 08:32 AM |
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Racism is the worst illness of humanity
LOL...I think not. Murder, child molestation, rape, etc. seem like far worse "illness"
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dArGOn
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posted November 03, 2002 08:36 AM |
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No inteligent person can become a racist.
uhh how should I say this...hmmm....YOUR WRONG. Many intelligent people have been racist. Racism is really a experiential and emotional issue that can override any logic and intelligence. Granted many racists are intellectually wanting...but intelligence is not the cure for racism.
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Don't even bother me with this crap
I think we may have here a rare form of debatism....a contempt for/prejudice against those debate you or bother you with facts.
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SirDunco
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posted November 03, 2002 09:34 AM |
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no bort that is not what i want. Say what you want ok...
Dragon...hate is the worst illnes and out of hate you have racism...
and as you said that 'why don't you want to hear facts' or something like that it is because here you can't put a scientific research. NO science knows how people think. It is quite impossible to interpret science into things like this, but go ahead and bring it up for all i care.
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Oldtimer
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posted November 03, 2002 07:12 PM |
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Bort... look racism is not an instict! Say what you want, give me some stupid scientifict reaserch that shows nothing but numbers, i don't care. Racism developed along with human civilizationn. it's a part of everyday life now, still it is not natural to hate people for differences.
I'm not arguing the point that racism is good or anything. But it is the most natural thing in the world to be fearful of what is new and different. For most of history "new" thoughts and ideas were feared. When you see someone unfamiliar it is not natural to open up your arms in wide embrace and say welcome brother. It is more natural to go to a friend and say, "Did you see that stranger? I don't trust him." It is easy to see why racism develops and why it is easy to fan the flames of racism and intolerance. Do you think that the germans just sat in their houses while a small group of Nazis took over? No they accepted the racist dogma, alot even embraced it. It gave them a reason for their economic problems.
To sum up... New or Different leads to fear of Unknown. People don't like to be afraid. People begin to hate the things that make them afraid. People want to feel safe. So they want to destroy that which makes them afraid. Racism is a natural survival instinct that can be awakened by people who want to gain power over a fearful people.
It takes enlightened people to show that the fear is unreasonable or wrong and make the different or unfamiliar commonplace so that there is no more fear.
Dismissing racism as unnatural or illogical is wrong. You must fight racism with understanding and education or it will keep coming back.
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HeyYou
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posted November 03, 2002 10:24 PM |
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Or, to put it another way . . .
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Say what you want, give me some stupid scientifict reaserch that shows nothing but numbers, i don't care.
"I've made up my mind, don't confuse me with the facts!"
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Lews_Therin
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posted November 06, 2002 12:42 AM |
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NO science knows how people think.
Uhm, ever heard of psychology?
Of course racism is perfectly explainable. Aggressiveness against outgroups is a tool of evolution.
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Snogard
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posted November 06, 2002 02:55 AM |
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I think we may have here a rare form of debatism....a contempt for/prejudice against those debate you or bother you with facts.
Ah... and there I have been wondering all the time what are the causes of racism... 
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SirDunco
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posted November 07, 2002 08:59 PM |
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Firs to fof all noone can read your mind. No one knows what you are thinking if you don't express it. Psychology is the stduy...Mark that study...of how we think, but no one knows what you are thinking if you don't express it.
Oldtime...In someways i agree with you. Racism is a new thing that developed along with the human civilization.
On the other hand the reason why NAZIsm was so popular was much more deaper then jsut econimic problems. This is a thing that goes back many years and if i had to write it i could pend many hours doing so...
HeyYou...If you think that you may be funny...there isn't a slightest chance. Once you can understand that quote, post allright?
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Lews_Therin
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posted November 07, 2002 11:33 PM |
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Firs to fof all noone can read your mind.
I´ve rarely seen such an incoherent arguing style. What has "reading someone´s mind" got do with explaining patterns of human behaviour?
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Racism is a new thing that developed with human civilisation.
Racism is an old thing that decreased with human civilisation (which brought humanism and enlightenment).
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HeyYou...If you think that you may be funny...there isn't a slightest chance.
There is much more than a slight chance. Making fun of it is a perfect response to your way of non-arguing.
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Damacon_Ace
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posted November 08, 2002 03:47 AM |
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Racism is an old thing that decreased with human civilisation (which brought humanism and enlightenment).
Actually, its only partly true. While civilisation might have made people more tolearant, it also created nations, and with this civilisation nationalism emerged. From past experiences, I realise that nationalism was a main factor for racial hatred. Look no further than apartheid South Africa or Nazi Germany/Fascist Italy for such examples.
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IYY
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posted November 08, 2002 04:22 AM |
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Edited By: IYY on 7 Nov 2002
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You have to consciously make sure that just because you know a black guy who is also a jerk or a Chinese girl who's a real ***** you don't subconsciously extend that to all black guys or all Chinese girls.
And what if you know 20 black guys who are morons, and 20 Chinese girls who are *****s, and never met even one that was not? Will it be ok then? I think so. And if you think about it: isn't it true that different cultures raise their children in different ways? So why won't it be possible that most (not all, of course) Jewish people are jerks (using this as an example because I am Jewish myself, so I am not insulting anyone)? It is quite possible, in fact, that a certain factor in the way they are brought up is something you don't like.
And up to now all we were using were bad examples, but I find that most of those generalizations are completely not offensive, and often quite flattering. For example I find that Chinese people often have a personality similar to mine so I like to be around them. At the same time I find that black people often have the opposite personality, so I don't hang around them as much. Anything wrong with that?
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pandora
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posted November 08, 2002 07:14 AM |
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I don't think generalizations are ever really flattering, because who a person is can't be defined by their outer appearance. So if someone looks at me and says oh there's a typical canadian (for example) , it would seem to me that they don't think i'm worth getting to know for who i am, and easier just to lump into a group.
generalizing can also be a bad thing for the one who does it as well - say for example you had an apple tree, and every time you picked and tried to eat an apple it had a worm in it - i guess you'd then decide that all apples have worms in them, and won't eat another. Then one you find you are hungry, and someone offers you an apple - and you refuse it because you have now decided all apples are bad.. what you don't know tho, is that this is the sweetest most delicious apple there ever was - but you missed out cuz you generalized 
lol okay, so was a goofy example, but maybe you get my point?
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HeyYou
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posted November 08, 2002 03:33 PM |
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So, let me make sure I understand . . .
Are you saying Canadian apples don't have worms?
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