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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Most useless hero in heroes3
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lordlazy
lordlazy


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Wood cleaner
posted October 27, 2002 12:32 AM

Most useless hero in heroes3

Everyone is talking bout how useless those eagle eye heroes are, but what about a hero like Melodia??? She starts with luck secondary skill, and has speciality in the spell fortune!! When she have expert luck she will gain 3 in luck, and the units can't use more, so then whats the point in the fortune specialty???

any other useless heroes???


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HeyYou
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posted October 27, 2002 08:19 AM

Any hero with the Mysticism specialty. Mysticism is the second-most useless skill in the game (right behind Eagle Eye).
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Lich_King
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posted October 27, 2002 11:26 AM

Well, In the Wake of Gods Mysticism is a very good skill: It will tell you what next week will be (like a week of troglodyte) and you can also see what spells will be in your mage guild.
The Eagle eye is also improved now you can learn random 1-4 spells without any mage guild weekly

And about the most useless hero... that would be those with Navigation (Sorsha and Tiva)
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lordlazy
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Wood cleaner
posted October 27, 2002 12:43 PM

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Well, In the Wake of Gods Mysticism is a very good skill: It will tell you what next week will be (like a week of troglodyte) and you can also see what spells will be in your mage guild.
The Eagle eye is also improved now you can learn random 1-4 spells without any mage guild weekly

And about the most useless hero... that would be those with Navigation (Sorsha and Tiva)


Yes navigation is useless on many maps...but it might be good on some to. I still prefer heroes that have a specialty that makes him/her more powerful.

Also i think Alagar sucks. his specialty is Ice Bolt which is a nice spell, but Alagar is a druid, which means he won't gain much in power.....maybe spells like bless, prayer and so on would be better for his cause.....


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posted October 28, 2002 03:23 AM

most useless heroes in heroes 3...

Any hero with Eagle Eye specialty

Any hero with Navigation specialty on maps with little or no water.

Heroes that specialise in poor quality creatures (e.g. Gretchin with goblins)

Any Mysticism specialist (though Mysticism is a very good skill for wizards)

Any First aid specialist
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Lich_King
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posted October 28, 2002 10:04 AM

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Any First aid specialist


Well, I must disagree with you ! The First Aid specialists are vey good in town sieges. Tower arrows mostly attack your unit, which is close near the castle walls. (In that case a dragon would be good for absorbing damage) In high levels your hero is able to heal up all hitpoints.

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posted October 28, 2002 10:07 AM

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Heroes that specialise in poor quality creatures (e.g. Gretchin with goblins)





oh man...not only is gretchin an excellent hero on maps where pathfind is worth something, she also brings more goblins and keeps your start army alive longer due to boosting their speed...what a bloody noob

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Hexa
Hexa


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posted October 28, 2002 12:02 PM

Yep Andi is right.

I personaly really hate getting Sylvia (specialty navigation). And often I find when your starting hero sucks the rest those aswell (must be some perception thingy huh?)Then u visist the tavern and what do u see?
An "nice" mysticism hero and a "nice" eagle eye heroe.

Then hiring 5-6 heroes more and be lucky to get a normal hero like Shakti or something!@
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lordlazy
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Wood cleaner
posted October 28, 2002 06:43 PM

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Heroes that specialise in poor quality creatures (e.g. Gretchin with goblins)

Any Mysticism specialist (though Mysticism is a very good skill for wizards)


Heroes that spezialise on poor creatures.....i agree...but Gretchin and his goblins is not a good example....if you switch it with Ignatius and his Imps then I see you're point

Another one....Mysticism is NOT very good for a magic hero (would much rather have another one...(offense, armorer....magic heroes needs those to)However..mysticism might be good in the early game (which makes a hero like Thant good)

Eagle eye heroes might also be useful somtimes I think, but only on small maps facing an opponent with a fourth level spell specialty

Also I think Torosar (Ballista) sucks, cause he don't start with artillery, and another thing....HE MIGHT NOT EVEN START WITH A BALLISTA...THEN WHAT WHEN YOU'RE USING TOWER??? (normally you should get the oppurtunity to get a ballista sooner or later, but the ballista specialty rocks in the early game, right?


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craighack
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posted October 28, 2002 07:19 PM

Piquedram is the Hero that I always hated getting the most.

I dont know why but I would almost concede the game before I would use him.

Piquedram sux!!
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posted October 28, 2002 09:07 PM

He is right, the most useless heroes are the ones that ruin your start army most of the times and suck as main...pique, Ufretin and Straker...BUT straker has 1 advantage: he has haste as starting spell...very very important with necro or if you dont get haste in yer guilds and he is playable as main.
The worst of them is 100% Pique coz with tower grems are all you have at start

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bjorn190
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posted October 28, 2002 09:28 PM

The worst hero is Crag Hack cause he will have so few spellpoints that he will run out of spells and get blinded.

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craighack
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posted October 29, 2002 01:20 AM

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The worst hero is Crag Hack cause he will have so few spellpoints that he will run out of spells and get blinded.


Us Barbarians are blinded by drink and strong smoke so much we dont worry about spells

To Andy....

I always thought it would be kewl to make a 2 player map where Ufretin and Piquedram were the only Heroes, no taverns anywhere. You gotta play em! It would be fun dont ya think? Fair anyway
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posted October 29, 2002 12:20 PM

I'd like to defend one of my favorite heroes Torossar...

This is an ideal tower hero.. so he has no artilery.. ok no big deal.. he does start with magic arrow, 20 mana, and TACTICS! which for tower is huge.. Tactics can mean the difference between ending week 1 with 90 masters and 50.. trust me

Now as for the most useless hero in the game.. hmm hard to say but it might have to be Olema with her weakness specialty and INABILITY to learn water magic to make it mass..

thats all for now..

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Motorschaaf
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posted October 29, 2002 12:41 PM

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Heroes that specialise in poor quality creatures (e.g. Gretchin with goblins)



your totally right. this heroes suck major ass. specially galtran. his special is a piece of total useless crap

Agreeschaaf

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lordlazy
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Wood cleaner
posted October 30, 2002 12:19 PM

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I'd like to defend one of my favorite heroes Torossar...


Now as for the most useless hero in the game.. hmm hard to say but it might have to be Olema with her weakness specialty and INABILITY to learn water magic to make it mass..

thats all for now..

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I'll have to correct you.....it says that Heretics usually won't get water magic, but that's not true....I get it very often when I'm using Inferno and Zydar
But still Olema is a bad hero, cause weakness is'nt really the spell i would cast with a Heretic hero.....

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Destro23
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posted October 30, 2002 12:37 PM

I am near to positive that a heretic cannot learn water magic without the aid of something other other than experience.

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Motorschaaf
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posted October 30, 2002 12:43 PM

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I am near to positive that a heretic cannot learn water magic without the aid of something other other than experience.


i dont know if they can learn watrer - but i know all heretics suck

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lordlazy
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Wood cleaner
posted October 30, 2002 01:54 PM

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I am near to positive that a heretic cannot learn water magic without the aid of something other other than experience.


i dont know if they can learn watrer - but i know all heretics suck

Motorschaaf


You're right. I think I'll use Druids instead...they ruleZZZ

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Peiper
Peiper

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posted October 30, 2002 02:08 PM

Straker has no escuse to win the useless price hero!
Piquedram at least can give u some usefull troops! ..... But I think we thinking in start phase of game, cause with 1.000.000 experience pts in every hero and with throng of level 7 creatures.... the disscusion may be slightly different and i think all of us would want to have a power hero, and the "Crack Hag" dissapointing I read up may change to love comments to "Crack Hag".


So my comments to choose a useless hero is that depends of map time develop playability (End at week 03, 10, 50, ...) but Straker sucks some games so still have some issues to resolve with him .. and still hate him...


But I think Crack is a powerfull hero specilly if u are Tower and can learn archery.

Thx for reads.

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