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Bloody
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posted June 24, 2012 08:28 PM |
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Does all these tactics work on v.4.0.0.0? And btw is v.4.0.0.0 the version everyone plays?
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Only4Dungeon
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 07, 2012 08:04 AM |
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Does anyone have any idea how mass haste can be countered? I mean, a guy who goes Castel ,air magic followed by mass haste is just impossibru to beat for me. The damage I take from the 1st round is deadly. Is this game all about who has the town with the highest speed?
I read some tactics around here but everyone underestimates mass haste,which is the best spell imo. If you have some decent attack and hit first, all you gotta do is to cast mass haste and it's gg.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted August 07, 2012 08:19 AM |
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Not at all. Champions mass hasted will have 14 speed without artefacts. It means many of other races will move right after archangels even if mass hasted. You will cast mass slow and get the angels pants down with all your creatures. And even if playing fortress or stronghold the balance is achieved on second turn because of additional attack you will have. It is unlikely a good player with castle will cast mass haste vs fortress with equal army and move asap. Mighties will slaughter them in no time.
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted August 07, 2012 08:28 AM |
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Mass Prayer with Loynis on the other hand... 
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted August 07, 2012 08:32 AM |
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I wouldn't recommend Loynis as main.
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YOGDUSH
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 08, 2012 12:43 PM |
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I wouldn't recommend Loynis as main.
Best main you can have
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Star_King
Known Hero
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posted August 08, 2012 05:45 PM |
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Quote:
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I wouldn't recommend Loynis as main.
Best main you can have
No.
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heroes_player
Known Hero
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posted August 08, 2012 07:21 PM |
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Well, Loynis has a nice speciality imo even though he has a wasted skill I have played with him a lot and have a great experience with it... just imagine halberdies with speed 13+other castle units only after expert prayer... 
Learning might not be bad if you imagine that you have crag hack with one waste skill (it is not always possible to get all 8 skills what you wanted...)  And also, this skill will increase your experiences faster and so you will get all secondary skill slots to work together as soon as possible
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revolut1oN
Famous Hero
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posted August 08, 2012 07:40 PM |
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Loynis is Cleric so he is actually preety bad xd What's the problem in getting Expert Prayer with other (much more useful) heroes?
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted August 08, 2012 07:45 PM |
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It has been proven learning is the only 100% useless skill in Heroes 3. Just do the math:
At expert gives you 15% exp, that means each 1000 points you get 150. To get to expert level, you need 4500 exp, which you will never get back and invest until very very late.
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Star_King
Known Hero
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posted August 09, 2012 04:03 AM |
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Well, Loynis has a nice speciality imo even though he has a wasted skill I have played with him a lot and have a great experience with it... just imagine halberdies with speed 13+other castle units only after expert prayer...
Learning might not be bad if you imagine that you have crag hack with one waste skill (it is not always possible to get all 8 skills what you wanted...) And also, this skill will increase your experiences faster and so you will get all secondary skill slots to work together as soon as possible
Loynis is pretty good (for a magic hero), I'm just disagreeing with "best". Also, you can get a similar speed effect with Terek/Cyra/Brissa but with a much better secondary skill on all three of them. Speaking of which, Learning is terrible.
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SAG
Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
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posted August 09, 2012 01:10 PM |
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Out of 16000 WCL games Loynis was selected as main hero just 54 times and won only 13 games...he is number 58 is the list of popular main heroes.
full list is HERE
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pogl
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 09, 2012 03:18 PM |
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An addition to Frank's post about tower tactics, nr19.
"Topias are hard to do with tower. But if you can get angels out of conservatories and/or mass haste with a good might hero (ie expert armorer/offense)... You can do all topias but maybe one maxed out with 3 giants 10 naga queens all your golems and gargs and 3 groups of master genies. This will have you sacrifice your gargs and some genies."
so, concerning topias; I have found that a easy and inexpensive way of taking topias is to bring in 6 slots of single genies, and one "hard to kill" unit on last slot. The genies have a speed of 11, so they move after black and gold dragons, same as red and green. on native terrain/ with some swiftness items, you move third. The genies enhance your "hard to kill", and the dragons will focus the genies. start attacking the dragons with your now great damage dealing, hard-to-kill unit, and keep enhancing them with the genies untill the genies die.
This worked out great for me with 40 iron gollems and 6 genies against 8 green, 6 red, 4 gold and 3 black dragons, which is the second hardest. If someone have allredy mentioned this, I am sorry to be adding old info.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted August 09, 2012 04:45 PM |
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You kill 21 dragons with 40 iron golems? On what difficulty?
The genies will be dead round 2, then the dragons will do a gangbang on your golems. Even if you're lucky and get a counterstrike cast by a genie, you will hardly kill around 4500 hitpoints with those amounts of golems (damage 4-5!!) I suppose...
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Only4Dungeon
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 09, 2012 07:12 PM |
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SAG that link at your signature,i can't register there,do you have any idea why ?
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted August 09, 2012 10:50 PM |
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I tried the aforementioned tactic with a 15-15 att/def hero, and golems were dead before even killing 2 drags out from 21, so would you be kind to test before giving wrong info in this thread?
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maretti
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted August 09, 2012 11:35 PM |
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Try 30/30 stats instead.
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Crag rules, Orrin and Ivor suck
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted August 10, 2012 12:43 AM |
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yes, or 90/90 but then it makes no sense. When you are 30/30 you won't attack topia with 40 golems.
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted August 10, 2012 06:10 AM |
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This worked out great for me with 40 iron gollems and 6 genies against 8 green, 6 red, 4 gold and 3 black dragons, which is the second hardest.
It's the third hardest actually, the ultimate being with 5 blacks and the second with 4 blacks.
I also refuse to believe that this is in any way possible without further info.
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SAG
Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
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posted August 10, 2012 08:44 AM |
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SAG that link at your signature,i can't register there,do you have any idea why ?
sorry. there are few players from Romania who create multiple accounts and create fake reports, so registration for Romanian players is temporary disabled. As soon as I will find solution to this problem, I will enable registration. Most likely I will allow registrations only to those players who will provide their photos + nicknames.
Angelito, please move this offtopic posts or delete them in a week.
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