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vampire_999
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posted June 19, 2001 05:15 AM |
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Poll Question:
What the sirollar's meaning?
I played DW with sirzollar yesterday,at the time W3D2,I take all my armys(some firebird ,some elemental,and some other's troups )and bring my art Shackles of war attack his mian hero at the middle,he just has 7 ghost dras for high movement next day.so i won at the end,but he said i was unhonorbel,becouse i shouldnot attack his hero by 3week's army,the reason is he just has 2week's army,and the other's troups havenot bring .at this points, he willnot report for me,I have poor english ,I donnot know what his
meaning .anyone or sirzollar himself can tell me?
if he was wrong,I will email deah8 for judge.i have the savegame everyday.
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Cheesus
Known Hero
The Untouchable
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posted June 19, 2001 09:16 AM |
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Vampire...
We have all had our personal problems with players. Wheter you were playing honorable or not is not really important to me. These are YOUR personal problems with sirzollar. You e-mailed deth8 about this so let him decide.
If we all would post our personal problems here the entire heroescommunity would be filled with em (i know iīve had my share). So please try to solve this with sirzollar and deth8.
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Cheesus
Known Hero
The Untouchable
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posted June 19, 2001 09:19 AM |
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By the way...
Whatever is this poll of yours for?
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vampire_999
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 19, 2001 01:39 PM |
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sorry
o yes,i just to wish give me and sirzollar and all of the friends who loves Heroes deep a room to talk about it ,becouse i really donnot know what the sirzollay's meaning.but u r right,it is a private and so little a thing,it is waste time to make a new poll for us at here,sorry for that,i will email deah8 for judge.and thx for u Suggestions
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rychenroller
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted June 19, 2001 03:23 PM |
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Coz I'm a nosey bastard I will reply
I assume you were red, and he would have been referring to the fact that you red rushed him....or first day rushed him. But if it was day 2, the point is irrelevant. If it was day one, and you did red rush him, I guess some people see that as dishonorable, using red to your advantage. I try to avoid doing that myself, coz its a bit nasty
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Cheesus
Known Hero
The Untouchable
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posted June 19, 2001 03:33 PM |
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Donīt believe a man that has -75 posts Vampire.
Just messing with ya Rychen  (I agree with you)
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Hired Hero
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posted June 19, 2001 03:34 PM |
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You have clearly won
I can see no reason why you should not be reported the winner of this game. I mean: should you notify the person: "I am comming to get you, please place all troups on the attacked hero!" As Rychenroller sais: AS this is day2 it should be no problem. And If it`s not alowed to attack at day 1 for red this should be agreed upon before starting the game. You have just met a bad looser.
And to the posting of this in this forum: I think it`s higly relevant. There are a lot of other post here that are clearly less relevant to TOH.
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vampire_999
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 19, 2001 05:25 PM |
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i forgot.
i forgot a thing ,that is he host and use red,i jioned and use blue.
and who can tell me deah8's email adress?i forgot it too ,and cannot find it out at TOH main page.becouse i have poor english.
thx a lots,nothing else.@_@
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pandora
Honorable
Legendary Hero
The Chosen One
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posted June 19, 2001 05:56 PM |
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If you were blue, then you can't be accused of sucker-punching the guy in any case... I think perhaps this guy was just mad at being caught off guard, and said some things in the heat of the moment.
Deth's email address is deth8@deth8.zzn.com this sounds like a matter the honour council will clear up for you in no time
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maxym
Known Hero
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posted June 19, 2001 09:44 PM |
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yeah it looks like you were completely in the right. But before you email deth8 try getting hold of SirZollar. He might have been just temporarily insane after a loss like Pandora suggests and will report if you give him a chance.
If not then emailing deth8 is ur last resort. As far as day1 red imbalance, it applies only on day and only for red who can attack with a bigger army simply because its a turn based game and someone has to be 1st.
I usually mention this to my opponents and they are more then happy to play by this rule, if not then it's up to you not to let them exploit this advantage same as you would try to stop them from hitting a an extra library or artefact.
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Hired Hero
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posted June 20, 2001 01:12 AM |
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agree
Agree you should try to sort this out with your opponent first, but if you have the correct version of what happened I cannot see why he would not report.
And reg. red striking at day one. That has to be agreed upon in advance.
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Redstorment
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 20, 2001 04:22 AM |
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Ok, if Sir_zoly would have told you at the beggining of the game that there are no first day rushes, then it would be unhonorable. But if he didnt It is his problem for keeping his troops in the middle without a thought that he would be attacked. also while were at it, I think that no 1st day rushes is one of the worst rules in this game,I have not heard of this rule untill this season and I personally think it is rediculous. Geez people just keep a chain back from home or if its day 7 keep your hero away from him!Especially on DW since its very easy to get logs,shakels,boots and gloves.
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Mocara
Famous Hero
what?
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posted June 20, 2001 04:25 AM |
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If I had a Zollar for everytime I head this...
Maxym how can you suggest such a rule and then have the Asimov quote there as you do?
If you are playing a map that there is no defense against this tactic ie the old battlemania (i guess they fixed it now) or EvW then the map just isn't fit for tournament play and needs to have a repair done to it.
Simply placing desert tiles in some spots can alleviate the red advantage.
And also ToH does not honor any rules so Sir Zollar will either report or be ruled against.
It is funny that he would say you have no honor then refuse to report.
Where is the honor in that?
-Mocara
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Phantom1500
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 20, 2001 07:15 AM |
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I think red first day rushing is by far the cheapest thing in the whole game. I don't know why people complain about hit and run and other things, you can stop that, there is no way to stop red rushing. This happens all the time, and there is nothing you can do. If you are sitting in castle and waiting for day 1 cause you know you can't take red in the open and he knows he can't take you in castle. So he chains and attaks with full supply. This is total crap. There shouldn't be a rule like this, but people who have done this to me and others definetely should never expect a game again. That is all there is. In this case though, it wasn't even day 1, so i don't know what he is talking about.
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rychenroller
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted June 20, 2001 09:19 AM |
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Exclusively for Redstorment....
Consider...a lot of ToH maps are laden with arties, and very often you can get your hands on speed boots or gloves, not to mention logistics. So with expert log, a fast army and a speed art, whats to say you cant sit in the middle, on for example hg2 on day 7 with your one arch, chain army and use all that speed to hit your enemy or... his town. So with your new week army, you have either defeated his main with that extra strength, or taken his new week build. Because H3 is a turn based game, someone will always have to be first, and I reckon its pretty low to use that to your advantage. Just my opinion
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tvgenie
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posted June 20, 2001 11:49 AM |
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So i'm going to be red, restorment.
Attention to redstorment *2
HI!
Well, think the day1 first player rush is cheap but happens.
I remember a random medium when my opponent attacked me on day 1 week2, so i hadn't my troops.
My citadel, extra morale, left me with a few troops.. but resisted his rush attack.. then he said it was unfair to have me attacked on that day so he considered the game void.. What would happen if he had taken me.. hum, i wonder , lol
So i guess i'm taking red on our challenge redstorment, and you won't mind, after all, this rule is just stupid lol
What should we do?
Honor & Fun.
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Redstorment
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 20, 2001 11:01 PM |
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ok, rychenroller first off never Use hourglass as an example unless your telling about how bad of a map it is. Next, 1st day rushes are not cheap at all, If you say no first day rushes then blue has an adavantage on day 7 knowing that he will not be attacked the next day therefor he can go fight more without a worry. If you really hate first day rushes play a good map like LastBattle where you have a lot of room to not be attacked.
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hurragutten
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 21, 2001 09:19 AM |
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Well
Looks like all people here support you Vampire_999. And I have to agree. As long as you didn`t have a 1st day rushing rule (wich I think is silly to have) you have not broken any rule, especially when you were blue. I mean - even if you had agreed upon such a rule - you woudn`t be able to break it when playing blue.
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Hired Hero
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posted June 21, 2001 09:45 AM |
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In addition to this discussion
you should read the tread: The Best Rules for Random Maps
posted by bjorn_190
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maxym
Known Hero
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posted June 21, 2001 08:59 PM |
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I am not an Advocate of NO RULES WHATSOEVER Moc...
I think that there is a place for player agreed rules in the game and the most common place for that would be on simple formulaic maps preferred in TOH where those rules serve to even out imbalances that inevitably appear in the map because there are not enough options to counter some situations.
The other place for rules are random maps, we all know how imbalanced they can be and having a set of rules like no free relics and scrolls or no cartographer only adds to the game and not detracts from it.
On a well designed large map I see no need for any rules whatsoever even the day 1 red rule. But even then it might be a hard tactic to defend from and this way no one will have an advantage because of the color pick.
But i'll guess I'll always play the game anyway me and my opponent agrees: rules or total war it's all good to me 
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