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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Zombies
Thread: Zombies
pig
pig


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Known Hero
unstopable
posted February 17, 2003 07:31 PM

Zombies

Everybody blames them, everybody hates them, but damn, you dont understand most important thing : they are unstopable!
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first, i got realy cool tactics in multiplayer, while playing necro. I always choose game with necromancer, with meteor shower spec.  Now here what you need for this :

1. Some fast meat (i dunno maybe some wraights, dragon flyes (damn they are expensive) or maybe some other $hit. They must be cheap.

2. As much zombies as you can carry!

3. Enough spell power and spell points.

ok lets go ppl

we got that necromancer with meteor shower ability. We train him well (until 5-10 level). SO you got situation : Opponnent's hero invaded into your zone. (He probably rob yout mills, creature dwellings, visit cool places, or even..getting closer to your town)

You may snow pants emediatly, but be brave : you have zombiez! They are soo cheap, buy as much as you can (about 50-70 of them). Opponents hero may have cool defense (if he is ranger expecialy or beastphucker) but dont worry about it. So you make 1 zombie stack , and 6 small fast units stack. You attack hero, and use your meteor shower his shooters, tough monsters (phuck defense , they are defenceless against magic)
So you wash that hero  well with meteor shower couple times, and then about 5-10 zombies remaining, run imediatly.

Rehire hero, equip him with some zombies (if you still have them)and some fast $hit. Go attack bravely, thrust your zombies, they are tough as hell. They dont die easy.

Then you do that procedure several times, Enemy's hero will lose lots of troops, so its time to give a rest for yout necromancer. Take dread knight , with lots of VL's Liches , hundreds of skells, and go against that hero. That tactic work well damn, i tryed it myself. Ok next one.

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well well, dont you people know very cool zombies special ability? Disease! Just split zombies into several stacks, and attack lvl 7 monster. Its very important to disease high level creature, cuz defense loss is painfull for them.
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Well another zombie tactic. Keep in the note , that zombies can work like another necromancy amplifier! But they dont rise skels, they can save skels , if you use them porperty.
My tactic is here :

Take hero with zombie speciality. Its very usefull hero, zombies move +20% faster with him! so they are faster than skelletons (movement 5 vs 4). Thats a trick!
Zombies will attack earlier than skelletons, so you attack strong enemy's stack with zombies, it retaliates , kill bunch of zombies, and after that let skelletons finish job!
Imagine, you sacrifised 10 zombies instead 30 skelletons. 10 zombies equalable 20 skels, so you saved 30-20= 10 skelletons!  That makes your own skelleton growth faster
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Zombies are veryyyyy cheeap wall! Yea wall! you need tactics skill to use it well. You wanna save liches, true? They are expensive, but very good shooters.You just surround it with bunch of zombies, so nobody can access your liches in hand to hand combat without dealing with zombies!
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Also if you own tactics, aligh your troops at the start positions, but put zombies in the center of battlefield. So, enemy shooters and faster monsters will atack your zombies imediatly, and after that you will do double strike with yout bone dragons /vampire lords/dreads, and you will realy beat enemy's army!

So think again before recruiting Dread-Knights, Bone dragons , etc. Maybe it will be better for you to buy lots of zombies instead those expensive units?

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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
posted February 17, 2003 07:43 PM

Interesting... But if you're such a zombie expert, tell me what use have the H2 zombies?
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LordLazy
LordLazy


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Famous Hero
Wood cleaner
posted February 17, 2003 09:29 PM

This tactic is also called hit'n run
Works better with one fast unit and the meteor lol....Cast meteor....surrender...better than zombie tactic
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silx87
silx87


Supreme Hero
posted February 18, 2003 10:03 AM

Quote:

1. Some fast meat (i dunno maybe some wraights, dragon flyes (damn they are expensive) or maybe some other $hit. They must be cheap.

2. As much zombies as you can carry!

3. Enough spell power and spell points.

ok lets go ppl

we got that necromancer with meteor shower ability. We train him well (until 5-10 level). SO you got situation : Opponnent's hero invaded into your zone. (He probably rob yout mills, creature dwellings, visit cool places, or even..getting closer to your town)

You may snow pants emediatly, but be brave : you have zombiez! They are soo cheap, buy as much as you can (about 50-70 of them). Opponents hero may have cool defense (if he is ranger expecialy or beastphucker) but dont worry about it. So you make 1 zombie stack , and 6 small fast units stack. You attack hero, and use your meteor shower his shooters, tough monsters (phuck defense , they are defenceless against magic)
So you wash that hero  well with meteor shower couple times, and then about 5-10 zombies remaining, run imediatly.

Rehire hero, equip him with some zombies (if you still have them)and some fast $hit. Go attack bravely, thrust your zombies, they are tough as hell. They dont die easy.

Then you do that procedure several times, Enemy's hero will lose lots of troops, so its time to give a rest for yout necromancer. Take dread knight , with lots of VL's Liches , hundreds of skells, and go against that hero. That tactic work well damn, i tryed it myself. Ok next one.



Good tactic!U think so!R u sure u've tryed it urself!

First of all,if u bolt ur enemy with Meteor shower,u lose spellpoints,to regain them,u have to spend a night in a town that has a mage guild or visit a spring or well,but a well works only once a day and a spring works only once a week!So unless u have several of those locations at ur town,ur tactic is useless!

Second,even if u have a lot of wells at ur town,ur hero will not have enough movement to visit them all and attack the enemy!So unless u have exp.log,a lot of boots and gloves ur tactic aint still workin,cuz u still could only attack 2 or 3 times.

Also,u'd need a lot of gold!

So,u see,ur tactic is just a joke and I bet u haven't tried it urself,cuz its not possible!
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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
posted February 18, 2003 10:48 AM

The solution to the mana problem is for the town to be a dungeon with a mana vortex. But then again, how would we get those stinky corpse thingies?
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silx87
silx87


Supreme Hero
posted February 18, 2003 11:27 AM

Quote:
The solution to the mana problem is for the town to be a dungeon with a mana vortex. But then again, how would we get those stinky corpse thingies?


Well,in SOD,the mana vortex also works once a week!

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pig
pig


Disgraceful
Known Hero
unstopable
posted February 18, 2003 12:19 PM

Silx listen up

Have you read all my post? I said setup hero well before the mission. Necromances get much knowledge during play, so 50 spell points its enough for attack. Zombiez and fasts could survive about 3-4 turns, so 3 meteor showers will do... hmz, ~200 * 3 * 1.5 (sometimes you hit 2-3 units) = about 1000 damage. That could be about 20 shooters + 10 grunts, that makes deal.
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Kuma
Kuma


Promising
Supreme Hero
u can type so much text in her
posted February 18, 2003 04:08 PM

I would play a little more b4 u start sharing ur tactics here.

Dun wanna be rude, but it's a bs-tactic.

Read some of the tactics for real gameplaying that r posted around here.
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silx87
silx87


Supreme Hero
posted February 18, 2003 08:25 PM

Quote:
Silx listen up

Have you read all my post? I said setup hero well before the mission. Necromances get much knowledge during play, so 50 spell points its enough for attack. Zombiez and fasts could survive about 3-4 turns, so 3 meteor showers will do... hmz, ~200 * 3 * 1.5 (sometimes you hit 2-3 units) = about 1000 damage. That could be about 20 shooters + 10 grunts, that makes deal.


Well,I read ur first genius tactic.
Yeah,I've noticed that necro heroes get kinda much tatic,but ur post says,that,bolt them several times with meteor!If u have earth,meteor costs u 12sp,that means,that u'll have nuff spellpoints,but whatabout movement!
U don't regain all ur movement if u retreat to ur town and hire the same hero again,also,it takes quite a lot of gold to recruit ur fast and slow creatures and hero(several times)and some for surrendering ur hero,to recruit it back again!So,yeah,this tactic is called "hit and run" but it can't be done by a single hero for several times!
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Kuma
Kuma


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Supreme Hero
u can type so much text in her
posted February 19, 2003 11:33 AM

Okay, seriously.

If u play necro u should worry about building ur skels and trying to get animate. (asap or hardly useless anymore)

Play 'a Tim' (multiple 'main heroes') when u play Necro, try to go for big buildings soon and make sure u dump ur skels (and other slow units) wif a scout end of every turn.

And zombies r absolutely useless.
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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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Legendary Hero
banned
posted February 20, 2003 04:11 AM

yeah ima specking with ya too pig!

ZOMBIES IS DA BOMB

And they can walk many dirt if Straker hero

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Vlaad
Vlaad


Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
posted February 20, 2003 03:14 PM

Zombies, he says. What's next - Golems?! Shees.
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LordLazy
LordLazy


Promising
Famous Hero
Wood cleaner
posted February 20, 2003 11:52 PM

Quote:
Zombies, he says. What's next - Golems?! Shees.


Word: Golems sux
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Vlaad
Vlaad


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Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
posted February 20, 2003 11:57 PM

So I've heard.
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Kuma
Kuma


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Supreme Hero
u can type so much text in her
posted February 21, 2003 11:27 AM

Golems dun suck.
Tower ain't much worth, but golems r great fodder for utops.
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Lord_Woock
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Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
posted February 21, 2003 12:08 PM

Yeah, and diamond golems can work with armageddon almost as effectively as blackies (I only added the "almost" because of the remaining 5% and speed)!
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Kuma
Kuma


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u can type so much text in her
posted February 21, 2003 01:00 PM

well, the speed might be more than a 'little' problem.

armag is for n00bs anyway.
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LordLazy
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Wood cleaner
posted February 21, 2003 01:16 PM

Ya, most direct damage spells is n00b stuff  
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Vlaad
Vlaad


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Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
posted February 21, 2003 09:51 PM

Quote:
Golems dun suck.
Tower ain't much worth, but golems r great fodder for utops.


With due respect, I can't understand your English. Did you say....? Could it be...? Naaaah.
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silx87
silx87


Supreme Hero
posted February 22, 2003 02:51 AM

Well,Kuma,u see,golems actually do suck.If I wanted fodder,I'd use genies,they also suck.I'd actualy not play with Tower in the first place so I wouldn't have to choose which unit sucks most

Okay,nevermind me,I just hate Tower,that's all
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