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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Best upgrade in the game
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LiZaRdMeN
LiZaRdMeN


Disgraceful
Known Hero
The king of Grimheim
posted August 14, 2007 08:07 AM

wyvern-wyvern monarch-poison is usefuull
vamp-vamp.lord-life drain
death knight-dread knight-strongest  level 6

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russ
russ


Promising
Supreme Hero
blah, blah, blah
posted August 14, 2007 06:13 PM

My favorite is Vamps -> Vampire Lords. I can't imagine playing necro without upgrading those ASAP.

But Giants -> Titans is the most powerful, IMHO. They are far more superior than their unupgraded version.

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wyvern-wyvern monarch-poison is usefuull
I would actually call this the most useless upgrade. There is barely any improvement, the upgrade is insanely overpriced and most importantly (for me, at least) if you find any more hives (or double build Wyverns in some other fortress you find), you won't be able to join them easily into one powerstack. There is nothing like finding 2 maxed hives next you your enemy's main hero and not being able to use the wyverns for the final fight. Absolutely the last upgrade I would do.

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Alamar
Alamar

Tavern Dweller
posted February 08, 2009 01:57 PM

Top 10 upgrades for me are:
1st Giants -> Titans
2nd Vampires -> Vampire Lords
3rd Gremlins -> Master Gremlins
4th Firebirds -> Phoenixes
5th Pixies -> Sprites
6th Gorgons -> Mighty Gorgons
7th Behemoths -> Ancient Behemoths
8th Harpies -> Harpy Hags
9th Angels -> Archangels
10th Water Elementals -> Ice Elementals

And the worst 10 upgrades are:
1st Manticores -> Scorpicores
2nd Lizardmen -> Lizard Warriors
3rd Beholders -> Evil Eyes
4th Dendroid Guards -> Dendroid Soldiers
5th Gnolls -> Gnoll Marauders
6th Demons -> Horned Demons
7th Cyclopes -> Cyclops Kings
8th Stone Gargoyles -> Obsidian Gargoyles
9th Minotaurs -> Minotaur Kings
10th Walking Deads -> Zombies
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RivalCommander
RivalCommander


Adventuring Hero
posted February 10, 2009 04:23 PM

I totally disagree at minotaur kings and gnoll marauders part. And not totally on scorpicores part.

For me, vampire lords, dread knights and crusaders are best...

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xlnt
xlnt


Known Hero
posted February 10, 2009 05:08 PM

Best in terms of quality - i (as a fortress fanboy) say: The Mighty Gorgon - it insta kills : )

best in terms of prize - ...well the worst is the cyclops, imho.. : ) - best would be.. master djin - u really get a lot for not so much here

vamps are super cool, but the get somewhat easily killed in a big bad battle, so..
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GuyG
GuyG

Tavern Dweller
posted February 15, 2009 07:38 PM

i'd say the giant-titan is the best..
in my opinion
but if we're talking about not-7th level, i'd say maybe vampires-lord v.
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Society99
Society99


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posted July 11, 2009 06:09 PM

Elves - Grand Elves is the best upgrade, if you take price in concideration.

I love tower, so giant - titan and stone - iron golem
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AdelaisAer
AdelaisAer

Tavern Dweller
posted July 13, 2009 02:43 AM

Angel ---> Archangel.


Get 10 Archangels and attack your enemy. Done.
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angelito
angelito


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Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted July 13, 2009 10:28 AM

Quote:
Angel ---> Archangel.


Get 10 Archangels and attack your enemy. Done.
Especially if the enemy has 50 mighty gorgons
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Society99
Society99


Adventuring Hero
I am too much of a spammer!
posted July 13, 2009 11:45 AM

Does the Mighty Gorgon ability actually trigger that much? Death Gaze is awesome, but it doesn't occur all too often for me
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zamfir
zamfir


Promising
Supreme Hero
Allez allez allez
posted July 13, 2009 12:20 PM

The chance for triggering (and the number of killed creatures) depends on the number of Mighty Gorgons in the stack. If you fight 50, you'd better be prepaid.
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supergub
supergub


Hired Hero
Abridged series fan
posted July 13, 2009 08:09 PM
Edited by supergub at 01:29, 18 May 2010.

best upgrades...by level

level one:hands-down gremlin/master gremlin(+1 speed AND gains ranged)
level two:archer/marksman(gains+1 speed AND an extra shot), even better if the marksmen are under Valeska's command.
level three:wood elf/grand elf(see above, but +2 speed instead of +1), again better if they're under the wood elf specialist's command
level fouron't know right now, best guess is swordsman/crusader(extra attack), best with Sorsha leading them, tied with vampire/vampire lord, best with the vamp specialist.
level fivemost interesting of all the levels listed AFTER the best)Best: monk/zealot(not sure if they lose the melee penalty, or if the monks never had it to begin with),best with Ingham. Most interesting upgrade(in the entire game):Genie/Master Genie(this is the ONLY upgrade in the game where a creature's GENDER changes, Genies are OBVIOUSLY female, and Master Genies are OBVIOUSLY male.[Note: It's not the sound that gives away the gender, it's the appearance. Look at each unit's torso, and you'll see it.])
level six:tie between efreet/efreet sultan and black knight/dread knight(black knights gain the double damage ability, that +luck makes them extremely likely to do double normal damage, and a possibility to do QUADRUPLE damage!!!!! Efreeti, on the other hand, gain fire shield, which makes it near impossible to get rid of them without hurting yourself, plus the extra speed.)
level seven:tie between angel/archangel, giant/titan, and firebird/phoenix(each gains not only stats, but a great special ability[resurrect for angels, shooting and black dragon hating{I think} for giants, and rebirth for firebirds.]too bad there isn't any 7th level creature specialists!)
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Society99
Society99


Adventuring Hero
I am too much of a spammer!
posted July 13, 2009 11:07 PM

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Most interesting upgrade(in the entire game):Genie/Master Genie(this is the ONLY upgrade in the game where a creature's GENDER changes, Genies are OBVIOUSLY female, and Master Genies are OBVIOUSLY male.)



I do not know if you play HoMM3 without sound, but when i play HoMM3 and the Genies take damage, no female moan or other sound that indicates that some sort of feminine creature has taken damage, but quite the opposite (the genies make little noise when taking damage tho).

But i agree; they look like chicks more than male.

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lvsoad23
lvsoad23

Tavern Dweller
posted November 16, 2009 12:46 AM

Roc to thunderbird and red to black dragon

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Casihasi
Casihasi


Known Hero
posted November 17, 2009 04:05 PM

Giant to Titan, as Giant is the worst not upgraded L7 and Titan is one of the best. And Cows ofc...

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tynan
tynan

Tavern Dweller
posted November 17, 2009 04:15 PM

Can't believe not many people talk about the Arch Angel. They get res ability, so fast that they can take out Titans before they move, and they do the most damage in the game, pre-AB (original RoE).
Of course I usually do not play Castle due to Roleplaying purposes (I think they are too self-righteous ).

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Casihasi
Casihasi


Known Hero
posted November 17, 2009 06:03 PM

That's because Angels are already a great unit, while Giants or Behemoths are not
Titans or Ancients are a much bigger upgrade imo.

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Protos
Protos


Known Hero
posted November 17, 2009 09:38 PM
Edited by Protos at 21:39, 17 Nov 2009.

The best upgrade in game is not even mentioned in this thread. Peasant > skeleton. All stats are increased, several times.

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wog_edn
wog_edn

Promising

The Nothingness
posted November 17, 2009 10:32 PM

Peasant --> skeleton is "Transformation", not technically an upgrade...

Genie-Master Genie (spellcasting)

Gremlin-Master Gremlin (level 1 shooter, extremely effective first week)

Giant-Titan (decent level 7 creature+only level 7 shooter)

Serpent Fly-Dragon Fly (faster than most other low/mid-level creatures, great for attacking shooters or spellcasting)

Gorgon-Mighty Gorgon (no need to explain)

Wood Elf-Grand Elf (Double shot, lovely!)

Harpy - Harpy Hag (attack, retreat. with mass slow and simple haste this thing alone can kill heaps of creatures )

Red Dragon-Black Dragon (great against spell casters and for those who use armageddon!)

Roc-Thunderbird (Speed+thunderbolt ... I simply love this creature!)

Behemoth-Ancient Behemoth (great at cutting defense, superb against fortress! time to slay those defense-guys )

Vampire-Vampire Lord (*drooling*)

Black Knight-Dread Knight (chance for death blow+great stats!)

Bone Dragon-Ghost Dragon (Not a great creature, but the aging-ability is handy!)

But personally I  like the the Vampire Lord upgrade the most ... it's usually the backbone of my army when playing Necro, and the creature that finishes most battles for me. A huge stack simply won't die!
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ohforfsake
ohforfsake


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Legendary Hero
Initiate
posted November 17, 2009 10:44 PM

For me, it's the Pit Fiend to Pit Lord, I can't imagine any other creature for any other town which difference from unupgraded to upgraded provides such a great impact on your chances of succes.

Inferno by itself is great of course, it's really an optimal town for hit&run via fastest lvl 6 + third fastest lvl 7, and the lvl 7 have no retal, which really also makes it great for castle defending with the right artifacts, but it's the level 5 creature that gives a necropolis similar ability, which basicly means you can beat your opponent, not via superb tactics via good hit&run formations on the map, or by sitting in your castle, but actually through superb power (legions of demons), which is what is so cool in general about those evil towns in my opinion.

Do you think I'd have added more punctums?

What I really dislike about inferno, is there level 1 unit is so weak, that it's not, for me at least, really worth it to go for 100+ of those guys early on, because just a horde of sprites will destroy me, whereas for all, probably except stronghold, other towns you can get a really great starter this way.

So it's not a pure win town by any mean, but what the Pit Fiend -> Pit Lord upgrade does for this town, and chances to win a game in general, makes me evaluate it as the best upgrade.

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