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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Best upgrade in the game
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cleed
cleed

Tavern Dweller
posted July 02, 2010 08:06 AM

vlord! giants and crusaders and archangels and black dragons etc r good stuff too but if in terms of contribution then i think sprites and maybe blue santas r crucial for development. gold mine week 1
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Bones_xa
Bones_xa


Known Hero
posted October 03, 2010 08:56 AM

Funny how people talk about the Angel to Arch-Angel upgrade.
I usually don't upgrade to Archs because Angels alone are pretty damn good. Probably the best non-upgraded level 7 unit.

Units I ALWAYS or almost always upgrade before even buying any creatures:
- Giants to Titans.
- Gremlins to Master Gremlins.
- Vampires to Vamp Lords.
- Walking dead to Zombies. (Walking dead are way too slow)
- Dendriods to Den Soldiers. (Dendriods way too slow)
- Dwarfs to Battle dwarfs. (Dwarfs too slow)
- Gorgons to Mightys.
- Pixies to Sprites.
- Firebirds to Phoenixes.
- Behemoths to Ancients.
- Harpies to Harpy Hags.
- Ogres to Magis.
- Hell Hounds to Cerebus.

Most other units I don't upgrade unless later if I have lots of gold and/or resources.

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iliecostin
iliecostin

Tavern Dweller
posted October 03, 2010 09:32 AM

best upgrade for me must be Psychic Elemental to Magic Elemental because of +5 hp, +5 dmg, +2 speed and Magic immunity

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Fauch
Fauch


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
posted October 05, 2010 05:33 PM

Quote:
Funny how people talk about the Angel to Arch-Angel upgrade.
I usually don't upgrade to Archs because Angels alone are pretty damn good. Probably the best non-upgraded level 7 unit.



in one on one, the devil is better if I remember well. and probably in many other cases.

that's funny you upgrade zombies but not angels
ok they are already very strong, but you gain +50 HPs, +10 attack, +10 defense, resurrection and +6 speed. I doubt you gain that much with zombies


did someone said raiders ? their damage increases by more than 100%. I'm not sure even crossbowmen, elves and crusaders gain that much.

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Bones_xa
Bones_xa


Known Hero
posted October 13, 2010 08:38 AM

Ya I guess its funny on my preference of upgrades. I don't think I really understand what the best upgrades are too make.
I don't keep track of the numbers all that much, seems like too much to remember. I usually just go by feel and my experiences.

Maybe I never realized the large improvement from angels to archs. I always thought the devil to arch devil was a better uprgade because it seems to me its harder to keep the devils alive rather than angels.
I also had no idea the psychic - magic elemental upgrade was so much of a difference.
And also ya the wolf raider upgrade is a very good one too.
For sure I know heroes 4 better than I know 3.

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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted October 13, 2010 10:49 AM

I would think it's easier to keep devils alive than angels. they have no retaliation

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liophy
liophy


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Bulgarian
posted October 13, 2010 03:56 PM

Best upgrade should be from Bones_xa to Marreti


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koelle
koelle


Adventuring Hero
posted October 14, 2010 06:52 PM

Quote:
Best upgrade should be from Bones_xa to Marreti




do not get it

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liophy
liophy


Famous Hero
Bulgarian
posted October 15, 2010 09:45 AM
Edited by liophy at 09:45, 15 Oct 2010.

Its a joke about two players with very different level of knowledge of the game. I hope nobody got offended.

I wish to Bones_xa to really get that much upgraded.
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Ambrose
Ambrose

Tavern Dweller
posted October 15, 2010 09:42 PM

Air E. to Storm E. (2-8 dmg+Ranged+bless=insanely awesome)
water E. to ice E. (3-7 dmg+Ranged+bless=insanely awesome)

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Bones_xa
Bones_xa


Known Hero
posted October 17, 2010 07:00 PM

Quote:
Its a joke about two players with very different level of knowledge of the game. I hope nobody got offended.

I wish to Bones_xa to really get that much upgraded.


Hey just because I don't know a lot about all the upgrade improvements don't mean I lack a lot of knowledge of the game. That is just one area of the game. I was able complete a few maps on impossible so I can't be that bad right?
The way I see things is that I'd rather purchase higher level dwellings before bothering with upgrades. I see more importance in getting the top level creatures as quickly as possible and using good strategies to expand. Upgrading can come later and if you can afford it. A map can be won without doing any upgrading at all.

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Alistair
Alistair

Tavern Dweller
posted October 26, 2010 09:37 PM



Gremlin - Master gremlin

Giant - Titan

Vampire - Vampire Lord

Harpy - Harpy Hag

Gorgon - Mighty gorgon

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batoonike
batoonike


Known Hero
posted October 29, 2010 04:48 PM

How about bone dragon => ghost dragon? Could imagine some unlikely scenario where aging + lots of instant damage (or no cure-dispell) would be more useful than anything else.

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sneyder
sneyder

Tavern Dweller
posted March 01, 2012 09:10 PM

Gorgons to Mighty Gorgons.

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WonderHenn
WonderHenn

Tavern Dweller
posted April 20, 2012 06:14 AM

Gorgon - Mighty Gorgon

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excalibur
excalibur


Known Hero
posted April 20, 2012 10:01 PM

Upgrades I like:

Crusaders (+3 att, +1 min/max dmg, attacks twice)
Champions (+1 att/def, +5min/max dmg)

Naga Queen (+10 dmg)

Mighty Gorgon (1 att, 2 def, Death stare)


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LizardWarrior
LizardWarrior


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Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
posted April 20, 2012 10:29 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 22:29, 20 Apr 2012.

Vampire-Vampire Lord(life drain)
Black Knight-Dread Knight(the best lvl 6 creature in the game,with double damage it can deal higher damage than some basic lvl 7,luck+double damage=slaughter)
Bone Dragon-Ghost Dragon(aging ability makes the ghost dragon even more dangerous than other lvl 7 creatures)
Swordsman-Crusader(strikes twice)
Archer-Marksman(shoots twice) elves-grand elves for the same reason
Red Dragon-Black Dragon(totally magic immunity)
Genie-Master Genie(not the stats,but the blessing casting ability makes them very good support units)
Gorgon-Mighty Gorgon(awesome ability)

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thisUnkn0wn
thisUnkn0wn


Hired Hero
posted April 21, 2012 04:23 AM

hmm...

1. Giant-Titan (shooting)
2. Gremlin-Master Gremlin (shooting)
3. Pit Fiend-Pit Lord (can't demon farm otherwise )
4. Vampire-Vampire Lord (no comment needed)
5. Gorgon-Mighty Gorgon (no comment needed)

I guess I put them in the order I did because I saw this as most increasing the usefulness of the unit...in this way, giants and gremlins are fairly useless until you upgrade them and then they become fairly good, whereas vampires and gorgons were already fairly good units, whose upgrade simply manages to make them OP.
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Peterlerock
Peterlerock


Adventuring Hero
posted April 21, 2012 07:05 PM
Edited by Peterlerock at 19:10, 21 Apr 2012.

1. Vampirelord (incredibly strong)
2. Wolf Raider/Crusader/Marksman/Grand Elf (cheap upgrade, twice as good as before)
3. Mighty Gorgon (the wonderful death stare)
4. Ancient Behemoth (from crappy to uberstrong)
5. Harpy Hag/Cerberus (gains no retaliation)

I do not put as much regard into the master gremlin and titan.

You can basically defeat the same stacks with unupgraded gremlins using them as "close combat shooters" (one single gremlin takes retal, big stack hits for the kill). It's not as comfortable, but it works.
And once I have a real army with nagas and magi, I dont care about gremlins anymore, upgraded or not...

And Titans... They are soooo expensive I seldom find the money to get them AND the rest of the troops I want (Magi, Nagas Queens,...).
So I often stick with Giants who are not really good, but they can do some fighting for low money...
I always have a bad feeling upgrading them... Is it really worth all the money?
Takes at least a full utopia to convince me I now have enough gold...

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NoobX
NoobX


Undefeatable Hero
Now, this is a paradox...
posted April 21, 2012 07:47 PM

Giant to Titan is the best upgrade. The strongest shooter must have a good price, but at the time you upgrade the Giants you'll have many resources in your treasury.
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