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Heroes Community > Heroes 3.5 - WoG and Beyond > Thread: What would you like to see in WoG 3.58 ?
Thread: What would you like to see in WoG 3.58 ? This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV / NEXT»
domin
domin

Tavern Dweller
posted March 20, 2003 12:30 PM

Level 8 creatures are way too powerful.
Also, it's good to make the lvl 7-8 upgrade more difficult (at least it can cost some gold)...
And why a blue Diamond Dragon ?

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LordLazy
LordLazy


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Wood cleaner
posted March 20, 2003 01:00 PM

I think there should be a new dragon in 3.58

What about LazyDragon?..
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Gangrail
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Dead Man
posted March 20, 2003 04:00 PM

Let me guess the dragon's attack will be it falls asleep and lands on unit crushing it
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Lich_King
Lich_King


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Supreme Hero
posted March 20, 2003 06:47 PM

OOOOppsyyy !!! Didn't saw the lines "any level one". So, maybe then... Centaur Captains ?
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Vlaad
Vlaad


Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
posted March 20, 2003 06:54 PM

Domin, you are right about Diamond Dragons' colour. I think it's interesting the WoG team made them white and then changed it. (?)
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Jakester
Jakester


Hired Hero
posted March 20, 2003 10:32 PM

How about creating a new creature for each town, as follows:

Necro: Shapeshifter/Werewolf
Dungeon: Sadist/Tormentor
Castle: Assasin/Avenger
Fortress: Witch/Sorceress
Tower: Robot/Android
Stronghold: Elephant Rider/Mammoth Warrior
Rampart: Boogeyman/Evil Spirit
Conflux: Lunatic/Maniac
Underworld Tower (can't remember name): Tortured Soul/Damned Spirit

On the good towns (Castle, Rampart, etc.) I wanted to add a touch of evil to the mix.  Also, maybe a third level of upgrade (some creatures already have it, e.g. all level 7s, Nightmare, Zealot, Santa Gremlin, etc.)
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Vlaad
Vlaad


Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
posted March 20, 2003 11:45 PM

Some really cool ideas, others suck big time.

BTW, what's the Nightmare upgrade of? The Unicorn?!

However, I love the "infinite" upgrade system like the one in Disciples 2. It could be done with a simple ERM script in WOG if there were enough creatures.
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Gangrail
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Dead Man
posted March 21, 2003 12:04 AM

As far as the LVL 8's go the WoG team has been looking into the possibility of charging Mithril and other resources to get them.  The reason they are as is now is people wanted more lvl 8's than in the 3.56 version so they added the 7 becomes 8 script.  Now are thinking of making them an expensive upgrade.  What do you all think?
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Lich_King
Lich_King


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posted March 21, 2003 08:23 AM

Yes, that would great idea ! It was really annoying, when everywhere was level.8 dwelings. And maybe, the level.8 creature could be hired and upgraded only in the Capitals ?
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Vlaad
Vlaad


Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
posted March 21, 2003 09:25 AM

You cannot charge mithril for level 8 creatures since there are a lot of older WoG maps without that resource. However, it is clear that the strenght and the price of these creatures is unbalanced. Simply check the cost of level 8 troops and level 8-10 dragons... and compare their power.
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Gangrail
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Dead Man
posted March 22, 2003 05:48 AM

actually nightmare is a first level, you might just see the upgrade in 3.58
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Odvin
Odvin


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posted March 22, 2003 10:24 AM

The idea of using Mithril in some upgrades is good, since I often find myself with too much Mithril in my posession: it is seldom spent and when it is, the requirements for those mithril 'improvements' are much less then the amount we find on the adventure map. Some higher upgrades, like the lvl8 that you mentioned, or maybe upgrading city hal to capitol, should require more mithril.
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Lord_Woock
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Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
posted March 22, 2003 04:20 PM

And mithril won't work on my comp .
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Gangrail
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Dead Man
posted March 22, 2003 04:24 PM

Actually there is talk about redoing the price of the LVL 8 and also using Mithril to add even more upgrades to the game.  In 3.58 there will be a good bit more need for Mithril.  As for older maps not having mithril in them they can easily be added into the timed events as well as if no conflicts wogify the map using the mithril script only.  I know the maps on my site still use the old 3.56 version of the lvl 8 dwellings.
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Nebuka
Nebuka


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Save me Jebus!
posted March 23, 2003 04:41 PM

My biggest gripe is wogifying map and seeing countless level 8 dwellings.

That suck big time.
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Lich_King
Lich_King


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Supreme Hero
posted March 23, 2003 05:31 PM

Totaly agree with you Nebs. I think the script, which changes some objects to lvl.8 creature objects must be fixed. It could transform only existing level.7 creature dwelings.
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Kittenangel
Kittenangel


Supreme Hero
Lee's wifey
posted March 23, 2003 06:29 PM

all ya gotta do is turn that option off LOL
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Lich_King
Lich_King


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posted March 23, 2003 07:42 PM

Well... I like the lvl.8 creature dwelings. But there are too many of them.
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AdyY
AdyY

Tavern Dweller
Lord Protector The Electrifing
posted March 23, 2003 09:46 PM

Do you wanna play chess?!?

Firstly,I wanna say that I am from Romania.
Another thing I like about life is playing Heroes 3 and
some of the new mods like Shadow Of Death and WoG.
All this upgrading to commander level seems to me like crap.
Why?
Heroes was fun,it is still lots of fun but tends to get over
it's first design,because it becomes very complex.I don't say
that because I can't play it with all of these.
I think the change should not be made in the structure of
the units,but into the whole gameplay.WoG is great,it can be upgraded with many new features,but any further mods
are just unoriginal because of the over used gameplay.
As for WoG some :new artefacts,the artefacts have thei weaknessen,like they can be destroyed over a great battle.
The artefacts have their own energy that drains over time
etc...
That's all.
Heroes rocks but don't destoy it's greatness.


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Vlaad
Vlaad


Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
posted March 24, 2003 02:40 PM

Could this be the very first anti-WoG post in history?

I wish I understood it, though.
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