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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: The Best way to do Daemon farm?
Thread: The Best way to do Daemon farm?
Pollo2002
Pollo2002


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posted April 05, 2003 04:22 AM

The Best way to do Daemon farm?

I hear Daemon Farm is very powerfull, but i can never do a very good one. Problems=
it's hard to kill my own units all in one fight.
I don't have Pit lord uprades early enough. it has a lot of requirements.
I don't have so much ¨food¨
I don't have time to farm! i need to use my pit lords in the front lines. I want to point i play on 160% Open, Multi-town, fixed maps. Thanks

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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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posted April 05, 2003 04:52 AM

there are several threads on this subject.

hint:

first look - then post

good n00b, now go looking...buh bye

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Pollo2002
Pollo2002


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posted April 05, 2003 04:58 AM

I already look and didn't found

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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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posted April 05, 2003 06:00 AM

ok then you

A) "look" like a blind man.

B) didnt bother enough to "look" on more than one page.

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silx87
silx87


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posted April 05, 2003 03:25 PM

Okay if u too lazy to look for it,I found it for u:
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?FID=6&TID=4233
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lord_crusader
lord_crusader


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posted April 05, 2003 08:11 PM

I think this tactic work better in a XL maps

This is what I do

1. I choice Marius(demon speciallity)
2. You need to get expert diplomacy the faster possible(with university, or witch hut)
3. you need earth.
4. when you have the pitlords Then you need upgrade your gogs to magogs.
5. Need clone, slow, and blind, and inferno or meteor shower
6. Need a heroe scout, go always with main hero.
7. Main hero need all the army you can get, with one free place.
8. the scout hero is to carry all the joiners of the main, when you have a lot of joiners then change the army with the scout (you only need pitlords and magogs) and attack the strong monsters in the map, in the battle cast mass slow send your joiners to the front to a horrible dead , and if you see you can kill the monters then cast blind to all enemy stacks, and put your joiners close to a blinded stack, then with your magogs attack and you damage is for the enemy and the joiners, blind that stack again and repeat the operation... if you can kill your joiners then  resurrect demons with your pitlords, and after send to the front other stack of joiners and the same operation, in this moment you need cast clone to your  pitlords and with the clone resurrect demonds again.
If you don't have clone, you need to do this with one stack of joiners for battle, the meteor shower, and inferno spells is for a emergency if you can't kill your joiners in a battle, cast it on a joiners and kill them

NOTE: You need a lot of knowledge
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Pollo2002
Pollo2002


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posted April 06, 2003 03:29 AM

But

The problem whith that, is that most maps , and/or rules, don't allow diplomacy (with a good reason)

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Lord_Woock
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posted April 06, 2003 09:31 AM

Most maps you play. You did say that you never play with diplo, right?
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Hexa
Hexa


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posted April 06, 2003 11:22 AM

U don't need diplo for demon farming.
Just the level 1 and 2's from starting town and the creeps u get from ext dwellings or from a second/third town.

Just read some of the older threads on this subject.
Yes it is hardto get pitlords early in the game, but nobody siad it would be a 'walk in the park" to farm demons!@
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Pollo2002
Pollo2002


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posted April 06, 2003 05:01 PM

Quote:
U don't need diplo for demon farming.
Just the level 1 and 2's from starting town and the creeps u get from ext dwellings or from a second/third town.

Just read some of the older threads on this subject.
Yes it is hardto get pitlords early in the game, but nobody siad it would be a 'walk in the park" to farm demons!@


I see..... But Gogs into daemons? It worth it? I like using gogs since is the only range unit inferno have. I heard some people converts hell hounds into daemons, that's incredible to me, I think Cereberi is the best inferno unit, and the 2nd best LEVEL 3 Unit. (below elves) you can say Dragon flies, but even then it still having the 3rd place and being a very good unit.
Anyway thanks for your help

PD: I searched for Damemon farming post ,and all are about diplomacy combos

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silx87
silx87


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posted April 06, 2003 06:02 PM

Quote:

I see..... But Gogs into daemons? It worth it? I like using gogs since is the only range unit inferno have. I heard some people converts hell hounds into daemons, that's incredible to me, I think Cereberi is the best inferno unit, and the 2nd best LEVEL 3 Unit. (below elves) you can say Dragon flies, but even then it still having the 3rd place and being a very good unit.
Anyway thanks for your help

PD: I searched for Damemon farming post ,and all are about diplomacy combos

wo wo wo!Back it up Pollo!
Do you have any idea what demon farming is?
It is all about sacrificing ur own troops!
Yes that includes the dogs but not magogs,cuz they are actually useful to you:they can kill your own men while killing the enemy,making it easier to farm demons!
And Diplomacy aint the only key to farming deamons!It is as Hexa said:your low level critters and fodder!
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Sir_Stiven
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posted April 07, 2003 04:46 AM

gogs = demon food.

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Pollo2002
Pollo2002


Famous Hero
posted April 07, 2003 05:52 AM

Some important information

I saw most people really don't know how much daemons rise an X numbers of pit lords. and they know that number is aproximatrly 1.4
I will note for those peoople for exact numbers
1 Pit lord resurrect 50 HP of daemons.
1 Daemons 35 HP

The number of units you must kill exactly (to not waste units) is(Pit lords x 50/ Unit hp = number of that unit needed) And that will resurrect Pit lords x 50 OR Number of that unit X unit Hp (depending on which is minor) / 35.
you can play with the formula as needed, depending of your needs.

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Xarfax111
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posted April 10, 2003 09:58 PM

..ok enough theory ..here is the practise:

Normal games last about 3 to 4 weeks and u normally built pitlord building day 16.

..so day 16 is DEAMONS DAY!!

At this time u shouldve 15 Pitlords available.

Uve 7 slots available and Pits can only raise one time per fight. So best results u get wit 3 times 5 Pitlords, one slot with the devils and another 3 slots with the fodder.

5 Pitlords can raise 250HPs, which means 7 deamons, which means 21 DEAMONS PER FIGHT ull make.

So at day 16 you shouldve a nice chain of scouts standing, with 3 Stacks of fodder per scout. So if enough fodder is available and about 6 scouts can do a fight ull get approximate 120 DEAMONS ON ONE DAY!!!

So to the peeps who dont believe in demon raising they can see how mighty this is!

Even without diplomancy this works very well. U just bring in all your lvl1-3 troups, the starting army from each week, troups from second and third town or from a refugee camp.

Just not to waiste hps, here is a list of how many creatures u need for 5 Pitlords raising 7 deamons:

Level 1-and 2:

4 hps = 62 creatures
5     = 49
6     = 41
7     = 35
8     = 31
9     = 28
10    = 25
11    = 23
12    = 21
13    = 19
14    = 18
20    = 13

and for cerberie:

25 hps = 10 creatures

Hope this helps u to improve your games..

Xarfax1
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