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Nemesis
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posted April 19, 2003 12:54 AM

Fortress 6th - 7th day building on impossible XL

Hello everyone :-)
I'm a newby here and this's my first post.

I'd like to know how you guys would cope with the following setup:

Fortress on impossible XL.
In some way you found a way to build everyday, so you've got Mage Guild 1, Town Hall, Marketplace, Blacksmith & City Hall.

Resources permitting, what're you building on 6th - 7th day?

Citadel - Castle?
Lizard Den - Wyvern Nest?
Serpent Fly Hive - Basilisk Pit?
Serpent Fly Hive - Citadel?

Personally I'd go for the latter (Whenever I tried to get Wyverns straight away I got stuck with wood on 2nd week).

Thank's!
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Aculias
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posted April 19, 2003 06:08 AM

Usually building in steps always takes specific steps but can very from the Impossible 200% to normal 100%.
not easy to build fully but I seen it done before on 200%.
only one hero to gain resources which are usually around day 1, try to build a town hall & work on your cash from outside scattered resources & try to build your army week 1 but make sure you got town hall early so you can make descent money when week 2 comes around.

If your terrain native area is poor like, may be wise to build at least lv 3-4 only dwellings & try to work on getting at least a city hall by start of week 2 or close.

So many ways to decide but it depends on how rich your area is.
Try to get at least 2-3 heroes to look for wood 7 ore mines & loose change etc.
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WaY2HeLL
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posted April 20, 2003 03:41 PM

i will build castle.
i am not very experienced with fortress but my opinion is that capitol is first objective on every map.

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posted April 20, 2003 03:46 PM

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i will build castle.
i am not very experienced with fortress but my opinion is that capitol is first objective on every map.



then my opinion is that you should start getting some new opinions

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WaY2HeLL
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posted April 20, 2003 03:48 PM

he is playing XL map he must go for capitol because if he plays against 1 computer, comp will be on other side of the map. then he will need some gold.
but i said that forttrees is not my town and this is only my opinion.

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posted April 20, 2003 04:00 PM

lol if you have "capitol as first objective" and i dont think any town is "your town"

go play some games online with that capitol tactics and youll be dead week 2...maybe week 3 if closed map.

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Apophis
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posted April 20, 2003 09:00 PM

And how the hell could you find me on an XL map in week 2 or 3, huh? You won't had enough army to beat even a peasant. Untill week 3 you will fight for resources and you won't have enough army to split it so you can search for resources with a hero and to search for the opponent with another hero. You are exaggerating dude.
Anyway Fortress's creatures and buildings are cheep(except for the wood) so you won't need capitol right away, city hall will be enough.
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Sir_Stiven
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posted April 20, 2003 09:26 PM

lol, thats just the difference. you use one hero to fight and one to scout.

Ill have a chain of 5-6 of em which all scouts and all fights. You wanna take a wild guess who covers more area first?

exactly, now go back to fight comp at 80% with your two heroes

or you could actually start playing online and you might get a clue what this game really is about...

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Apophis
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posted April 20, 2003 09:54 PM

I don't need you to tell me what is this game about and you'd better read my post carefuly. I was talking about week 2 and 3 on imposible not about the whole game. You can't have 5-6 heroes ready to fight and explore in week 2-3, you won't even have enough army for 3 heroes so they can take out some serious neutral stacks. And I'm talking about random maps, not toh maps cause I've heard some of them are very rich.
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posted April 20, 2003 10:00 PM

Ive had 5 heroes first week random XL 200%... and im quite sure im not the only one...

you shouldnt judge other players on computer performance lol

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Apophis
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posted April 20, 2003 10:10 PM

Yeah, and let me guess, you had enough money to make hydras pond in week 1 too +castle, right. Who are you kidding dude? Or maybe on that map it rained with gold.
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Sir_Stiven
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posted April 21, 2003 02:13 AM

look at my post and tell me where i said that i had hydra pond and castle?

i can agree that that would be really hard to get on 200%, benemoths with stronghold is possible if really rich map.

But if you think 5 heroes is impossible i have 3 words for ya:
learn the game

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posted April 21, 2003 02:21 AM

Well basically WAY2HELL you need creatures to keep coming & you need alot if you want to survive.
Money will always be there but the amount of creatures depends on when you build thier dwellings in the castle.
Nothing feels better then traveling with 2-3 hydras week 2 day 1 lol.
You can have two heroes gaining resources to help you build for a city hall week 2.
if you are playing a high % game like 160% & 200 you probally need to build a town hall week 1 to have some kind of money & basically you going to need to scout around munching lv 1-2 creatures with the few troops you have.
It's really very important to keep your troops coming week 1 so the population can grow & in time you will see the gold will take place, a capital will be built when you least expect it & you will be glad you can have 5 angels week 3
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Apophis
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posted April 21, 2003 12:07 PM

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look at my post and tell me where i said that i had hydra pond and castle?

i can agree that that would be really hard to get on 200%, benemoths with stronghold is possible if really rich map.

But if you think 5 heroes is impossible i have 3 words for ya:
learn the game


You can have 5 heroes on impossible week 2-3 but would you have enough army for all of them so they can all fight for resources and for exploring the map. That's what we were talking about, actually that's what I was talking about cause you're kinda avoiding the subject.
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posted April 21, 2003 01:32 PM

Actually if the map is semi rich it is possible to have a wyvern army by week 1.
Just got to scout for resources even with your main on 200%
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Sir_Stiven
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posted April 21, 2003 03:59 PM

Quote:
Quote:
look at my post and tell me where i said that i had hydra pond and castle?

i can agree that that would be really hard to get on 200%, benemoths with stronghold is possible if really rich map.

But if you think 5 heroes is impossible i have 3 words for ya:
learn the game


You can have 5 heroes on impossible week 2-3 but would you have enough army for all of them so they can all fight for resources and for exploring the map. That's what we were talking about, actually that's what I was talking about cause you're kinda avoiding the subject.


no you dont have enough army for "all of them", you use the same army to fight with em all. You have no idea what the word "chaining" means dont you?

and the army from 3 heroes is usually enough to take on many fights early in the game.

You really need to get some online experience if you are to argue on these subjects instead of voicing your opinion based on comps "quality"

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posted April 22, 2003 12:21 AM
Edited By: Kuma on 23 Apr 2003

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no you dont have enough army for "all of them", you use the same army to fight with em all. You have no idea what the word "chaining" means dont you?

and the army from 3 heroes is usually enough to take on many fights early in the game.

You really need to get some online experience if you are to argue on these subjects instead of voicing your opinion based on comps "quality"


If U, want 5 heroes first week on impossible map, then u're economy is totally wasted.......random that is...thats what the guy is talking bout


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Apophis
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posted April 22, 2003 01:02 AM

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no you dont have enough army for "all of them", you use the same army to fight with em all. You have no idea what the word "chaining" means dont you?


5 heroes means 12500 gold(you'd better note that cause as I see you're not that good at mathematics, probably you're a soccer player ) and that means a lot of gold when you start with nothing. So you buy 5 heroes to make a "chaining" instead of buying 2-3 heroes and use the other gold to build dwelings? Cool! And what makes you think that you'll find enough gold and resources after you'll have all those 5 heroes. If you find some gold and some treasures around your castle it doesn't mean the whole map is full of it. You can never know what you can find. And after every fight you'll loose some creatures so you have to replace those creatures that you lost with other in order to continue the fights. You'll replace them with what? Cause you don't have enough dwelings to recruit creatures cause you spend 5000-7500 so you can have 5 heroes in week 2 instead of 2 or 3.

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and the army from 3 heroes is usually enough to take on many fights early in the game.


Oh...so now there are only 3 heroes. What happened with the other 2? Have you ever seen you're main hero starting only with a pack of L1 creatures and if you're really lucky you can find another hero in the tavern only with a pack of L1 creatures too. That's what I call an army. So stop exaggerating dude, not all the maps are that rich so you can afford a million heroes in day 1 week 1 or to find your opponent just even before the map is loaded.


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Sir_Stiven
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posted April 22, 2003 04:17 AM
Edited By: Sir_Stiven on 21 Apr 2003

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5 heroes means 12500 gold(you'd better note that cause as I see you're not that good at mathematics, probably you're a soccer player )


lol n00bisis

first of all 5 heroes = 10k gold because of starting hero

(talking about mathematics huh?....)

and some temps are richer than others yes, but if you would been upto date in random debate instead of spending your heroes time playing comp on 80% you would know that there are really easy to see how rich the different templates are now.

And from that you can adjust number of heroes...

(that would be 2-0 to me "football speaking" )

and finally to nail the hat trick:

if you honestly even wanna try and have a h3 debate at a serious level with me i suppose you have the most recent version of the game?

And then you only get army from 3 heroes (which is why i mentioned 3 heroes, you still chain with 5).

And yes you can be really unlucky with starting troops, but many online players knows how to handle them the best and therefor not lose so many. (Ever tried to split lvl 1 units to eat up retaliation? )

so there.

And before you make anymore n00bish statements, what about answering some points made for you... for example you can start explaining what the word "chaining" means to me.
Will sure be pleasent reading

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LordLazy
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posted April 22, 2003 04:42 AM

lol stiven

U feel beeten?

I guess u couldnt find any non correct points in his statements, since everything u wrote in your last post is BS

lol, I guess he turned the whole match around, so now it's 2-3

Somehow that reminds me of the Swedish Football team
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