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Thread: Bush: Is he a hotheaded idiot or did he save us from a nuke? This thread is 4 pages long: 1 2 3 4 · NEXT»
Vadskye91
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posted May 03, 2003 04:17 AM
Edited By: Vadskye91 on 2 May 2003

Poll Question:
Bush: Is he a hotheaded idiot or did he save us from a nuke?

I know this is a touchy subject, but I'm curious to know what the majority of us think of Bush?
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Responses:
Hotheaded idiot who alienated the US completely from our (former) allies
He saved the US from a nuke and is a hero
Other(post your thoughts)
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terje_the_ma...
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posted May 03, 2003 12:08 PM

i really don't think any of your suggestions are fitting. ok, he isn't competent to his job (but hey! who is?), but to call him a 'hotheaded idiot' isn't corect.
OK, he might act a little rash and his actions may not look properly thoght thruogh, but a idiot he's not. a puppet for the american oil and energy industry, yes, but no idiot.

on the other hand, he's no hero. who's nukes did he save the world from? saddams? don't make me laugh. and the so-called connections to al-quaida, his 'evidence' and so on, was just made up. or at least, it didn't impress anyone but Laura...

(just a question for the americans out there: al gore. what is he like? is he a fool?)

nice thread, though. hope it won't turn into another like kuma's 'take back the foo's...'

btw, i saw a thread on civ fanatics forum, where they had a thread kinda like this, but it was called 'G.W. Bush: Our greatest president?' the scary thing was, most of the people there voted yes...
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Vadskye91
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posted May 03, 2003 12:10 PM

Thanks, I thought that there was something missing.  If a lot of members complain about the choices, I think I will make a new poll.
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WaY2HeLL
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posted May 03, 2003 11:21 PM

he is definitly a hotheaded idiot
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Nasty
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posted May 04, 2003 02:31 AM

i believe his head is filled with power...he felt threatend by iraqs power so he decided to eliminate them...he thinks he has the supreme power..and he is right ...but there has to be someone to make him obey...
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Damacon_Ace
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posted May 04, 2003 05:33 AM

Um... I think Bush is simply a warmonger. Nothing else...but he is certainly not a hotheaded rednecked idiot, that's for sure! However, he isn't the president that Bill Clinton was.
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Khayman
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posted May 05, 2003 02:11 AM

Clinton? Are you serious?

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However, he isn't the president that Bill Clinton was.


Bill Clinton could not even manage his personal life, nor could he control his sexual desires.  Every U.S. president can be associated with something great or somewhat significant from his time in office.  For example, Reagan = Reaganomics and the Cold War; Bush Sr. = Gulf War; Bush Jr = Operation Enduring and Iraqi Freedom.  When you think of Bill Clinton, what significant event comes to mind?  Exactly, the Monica Lewinski scandal.  Way to set the example, Slick Willie.  The man was a cheater (infidelity), a liar (lying under oath), and a thief (Whitewater scandal).  Although Bush may be considered a "hotheaded redneck idiot" by some (or many), at least he spends his time dealing with important issues that affect his country and the rest of the world, instead of trying to find ways to sexually seduce his interns and other women besides his wife.  Bill Clinton was an embarrassment to himself, his family, and his country.

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Lews_Therin
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posted May 05, 2003 03:25 AM
Edited By: Lews_Therin on 4 May 2003

Quote:
Bill Clinton could not even manage his personal life, nor could he control his sexual desires.  Every U.S. president can be associated with something great or somewhat significant from his time in office.  For example, Reagan = Reaganomics and the Cold War; Bush Sr. = Gulf War; Bush Jr = Operation Enduring and Iraqi Freedom.  When you think of Bill Clinton, what significant event comes to mind?  Exactly, the Monica Lewinski scandal.
Funny morals: When someone starts a war against all reason and international right, is responsible for the death of thousands of people and worldwide rearmament, this is qualified as "something great". But getting a blowjob from a girl, uh-oh, what a scandal!

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Bill Clinton was an embarrassment to himself, his family, and his country.
Ever talked to people outside the US? I can assure you that unlike Clinton, who was extremely popular, Bush has dumped the image of his and your country to a huge extend. You will take years, and certainly a new administration, to recover. In view of that, your being embarassed about Clinton is ... well, embarassing in itself.
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posted May 05, 2003 03:33 AM
Edited By: Nidhgrin on 11 May 2003

Quote:
Quote:
Bill Clinton could not even manage his personal life, nor could he control his sexual desires.  Every U.S. president can be associated with something great or somewhat significant from his time in office.  For example, Reagan = Reaganomics and the Cold War; Bush Sr. = Gulf War; Bush Jr = Operation Enduring and Iraqi Freedom.  When you think of Bill Clinton, what significant event comes to mind?  Exactly, the Monica Lewinski scandal.
Funny morals: When someone starts a war against all reason and international right, is responsible for the death of thousands of people and worldwide rearmament, this is qualified as "something great". But getting a ----job from a girl, uh-oh, what a scandal!

LOL i was lmao off, keem em coming Lews
Btw hes right, the Clinton affair made me feel like: thats a human like me any you, and not some stupid politician with a desire for power only...
You military freaks sometimes suck, but lots of crying if one gets his ass blasted by a bomb...


~Edited by Nidhgrin~

Tsk tsk, please try to censor the most explicit words plz  I'm not sure if a lot of kids read posts in this forum, but please censor them in the future.  People will still know what you mean, and you're not giving me extra work to clean up.  Thanks

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bort
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posted May 05, 2003 04:38 AM

Strange, when I think of former US presidents, I think:

Reagan : Iran Contra, high inflation rates (that's right, Reaganomics)

Bush Sr. : crappy economy, but I actually didn't mind him that much.

Bush Jr. : crappy economy, tax cuts for the rich coupled with increased spending, Ashcroft, half the world hates us, a quarter only dislikes us, 20% doesn't mind us and the other 5% is us.

Clinton : longest period of peacetime economic growth (note, for the record that "peacetime" part of it.  Wow.  Those were the days.)

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Khayman
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posted May 05, 2003 04:45 AM
Edited By: Khayman on 4 May 2003

Real nice, Andi

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You military freaks sometimes suck, but lots of crying if one gets his ass blasted by a bomb...


Really nice message board etiquette, Andi.  Calling people freaks because you don't agree with their lifestyle and beliefs is not only sterotyping and unobjective, but highly unprofessional.  The close-minded part of me wants to tell you to get out from behind the keyboard once in a while, but then I would have to read a novel of how you are a man of the world.  Thanks for being your true all-knowing self
yet again.

Lews, great points, by the way, and I agree. If you think about Bush's decision to go to war and all the death and destruction that it has caused, there is no argument whatsoever of the unimportance of Clinton's moral conduct compared to this.  Thanks for putting that in perspective.  In regards to the war, I guess the question that remains to be answered is "Does the end justify the means?"  I guess that is a question that will be debated for a very long time, but is still playing out.

I enjoy all of your posts.  Thank you for the criticism, as it is well taken.

Love, peace, and happiness,


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midnight
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posted May 05, 2003 04:57 AM

not just Clinton who has a human side, this week Pres. Bush told our Australian PM Howard to get a pet dog looool
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privatehudson
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posted May 05, 2003 05:41 AM

I don't think Bush is quite a total idiot and a hot-headed fool, but then again, to claim he saved the world from anything like  a nuke is a little far fetched......

As for the rest I largely agree with Bort (for once)


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Aculias
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posted May 05, 2003 07:16 AM

Donjt get me wrong Khayman I got the total respect for you & always been cool with you but i have to disagree on your views on our recent presidents.
The way you describe them as like if there is no was, your not a good president.
Now what happens in Pres Clintons personal life never affected his job, even if his wife made alot of the decisions & his daughter did drugs & was actually caught & posted in a newspaper in stanford lol.
Well anyways, look at how the world was when Clinton was president for 8 yrs & you will see that it dont matter if he screwed 3 women in one bed at one time lol.

Again no disrespect but with regards
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posted May 05, 2003 07:27 AM

Quote:
Quote:
You military freaks sometimes suck, but lots of crying if one gets his ass blasted by a bomb...


Really nice message board etiquette, Andi.  Calling people freaks because you don't agree with their lifestyle and beliefs is not only sterotyping and unobjective, but highly unprofessional.  The close-minded part of me wants to tell you to get out from behind the keyboard once in a while, but then I would have to read a novel of how you are a man of the world.  Thanks for being your true all-knowing self
yet again.


Anytime Man, you just dont like to hear the truth lol...
I know those military guys since i was there about a year, and many were so happy to see a gun that it is SICK - NOTHING ELSE, if you look at a war as something positive or interesting you are SICK.

Now i dont say you are one of those, but if i read crap like "this president was big coz he won a war" i just think - well you know...
btw guys that always say nice stuff are liers, what they really think they dont have the guts to say...

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Kuma
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posted May 05, 2003 01:17 PM

nobody ever 'wins' a war.

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Khayman
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posted May 05, 2003 04:33 PM

Andi stated:
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Anytime Man, you just dont like to hear the truth lol...I know those military guys since i was there about a year, and many were so happy to see a gun that it is SICK - NOTHING ELSE, if you look at a war as something positive or interesting you are SICK.
Now i dont say you are one of those, but if i read crap like "this president was big coz he won a war" i just think - well you know...
btw guys that always say nice stuff are liers, what they really think they dont have the guts to say...

Once again, Andi, you are projecting your views of your limited experiences with only those "military guys" you are referring to, which is both stereotyping and unobjective, as I already have pointed out about your last post.  That would be like me saying that all peace-loving individuals are proponents of gun control (which would not be true), because I was part of a progressive peace movement for about a year.  In regards to nice guys being liars, there is a way to get the hard truth across without being offensive, which is called tactfulness.  Please try it sometime and perhaps you can help make the world a better place.  The truth is something that one learns from and helps make one a better individual, and I welcome the truth, just not biased and unobjective opinions.  Try taking some notes from Hudson's posts, as I often have heartache with what he has to say, but when he delivers his posts, they come across as informative and not offensive.

Aculias stated:
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Now what happens in Pres Clintons personal life never affected his job, even if his wife made alot of the decisions

I disagree with that statement, and please allow me to expand. The more time a leader spends defending his personal life's improper conduct and actions, such as in judicial procedings and legal investigations, the less time he or she has to deal with important issues that affect the welfare and future of the people (as Lews had so eloquently eluded to in his post).  One cannot fully focus on his or her primary job when they are being distracted with side issues that could have been easily avoided if they would have exercised better judgment and some self-discipline.

Finally, allow me to re-state what I had said in my ealier post:
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Every U.S. president can be associated with something great or somewhat significant from his time in office.

Do you consider war something great?  Personally, I would have to say "no," unless there is just cause; however, to say that war and the current situation in the Middle East is not something "somewhat significant," would be false, as it will be affecting the lives of millions of people, not just now, but for many generations to come.

The bottom line is this...as long as greed, avarice, and the hunger for power exists, war will always exist.  War is horrible and war is ugly, but until the human race evolves to the point of self-actualization as defined in Maslow's Hierarcy of Needs theory, there will (unfortunately) always be aggression and conflict somewhere in our world.

Love, peace, and happiness,
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privatehudson
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posted May 05, 2003 06:19 PM

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Try taking some notes from Hudson's posts, as I often have heartache with what he has to say, but when he delivers his posts, they come across as informative and not offensive.



I don't come across as anti-american anymore? Hmmmmmm must update my repetoir of insulting remarks about the country and your people....

Personally I'd ignore Andi though, he goes away... eventually


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Khayman
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posted May 05, 2003 06:53 PM

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I don't come across as anti-american anymore? Hmmmmmm must update my repetoir of insulting remarks about the country and your people....

Truth of the matter is that your insulting remarks are difficult to argue, as there is at least an inkling of truth in what you say.
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privatehudson
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posted May 05, 2003 10:05 PM

I do try
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