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Thread: Darn Gerfex
zordrac
zordrac


Adventuring Hero
posted May 04, 2003 02:45 PM

Darn Gerfex

Okay.

The allinone.zip version of Gerfex had that allied hero that wouldn't move. So I downloaded the new and improved version off the web which fixed it.

Then I played one game and Crag Hack was available at the tavern, so I hired him, and he led me through the cliff face. Unfortunately, I stuffed that one up because I didn't realise just how potent the main enemy was, and I came a little underprepared.

So I started the game over, and tried to hire Crag Hack, but he can't be hired. Why not? Now he is on Red's team, and I see him sitting there on his horse just beyond the secret cave entrance which I can't get through.

Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong? And why Crag Hack couldn't be hired?

NB - Yes, I checked every day after the message came through, and not once could he be hired.
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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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posted May 04, 2003 04:23 PM

You hire the dude as soon as his letter arrives. Oh, wait - the letter says that he'll be available in a week I think. Anyway, check the tavern every day - that should do the trick .
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Fnord
Fnord


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Famous Hero
posted May 04, 2003 09:47 PM

Quote:
Okay.

The allinone.zip version of Gerfex had that allied hero that wouldn't move. So I downloaded the new and improved version off the web which fixed it.

Then I played one game and Crag Hack was available at the tavern, so I hired him, and he led me through the cliff face. Unfortunately, I stuffed that one up because I didn't realise just how potent the main enemy was, and I came a little underprepared.

So I started the game over, and tried to hire Crag Hack, but he can't be hired. Why not? Now he is on Red's team, and I see him sitting there on his horse just beyond the secret cave entrance which I can't get through.

Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong? And why Crag Hack couldn't be hired?

NB - Yes, I checked every day after the message came through, and not once could he be hired.


If you're playing 3.57 but not 3.57f, I think this was a bug that was introduced in the game after 3.56. If you're playing 3.56, I'm not sure -- maybe it was introduced another time.

Back when I originally made Cave of Gerfrex, this method was the only way I could get him into the Tavern at a set date (his patrol radius freed, he would die fighting a monster event, and his colour would be changed).

There's a much easier way to do this now with newer ERM commands (and indeed, easier ways of doing many things), but I've changed very little of the code in Cave of Gerfrex from the original -- if it worked, I didn't mess with it.

I think the reason it stopped working was that at some point, Slava changed WoG so that the AI's would be aware of the whole map (if explored), rather than just a small portion of it--he hoped that would make them play better. But it turned out to be the opposite, and so eventually (for 3.57m and 3.57f) he changed it back to the way it worked in SoD. However, this change, while it was in there, sometimes caused problems. I think Crag Hack, able to see more of the map, was too intimidated to move, at least some of the time. It seems it worked the first time for you, at least.

The solution? Update to 3.57f and use the latest Cave of Gerfrex (1.4 I think). I could probably change the code to work with any of the later versions now and perhaps I should have done that, but updating to 3.57f might be the better alternative anyway.


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zordrac
zordrac


Adventuring Hero
posted May 05, 2003 03:17 AM

Oh right.

Well I downloaded the 3.57f thing.

So he was too intimidated to move. And he is available in the tavern if he flees from a fight.

I am guessing therefore, that there is no way to make him available simply as a hero for me, or something.

And yes, I did check the tavern every day (all 3 times I played). Every day, religiously.
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Fnord
Fnord


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Famous Hero
posted May 05, 2003 03:23 AM

Quote:
Oh right.

Well I downloaded the 3.57f thing.

So he was too intimidated to move. And he is available in the tavern if he flees from a fight.

I am guessing therefore, that there is no way to make him available simply as a hero for me, or something.

And yes, I did check the tavern every day (all 3 times I played). Every day, religiously.


So what version did this happen with? Did you have 3.57f installed at the time?

Yes, there is a way to make Crag available to just you after you receive the message, but it wasn't an option when I originally made the map--I don't remember which WoG version the command was added in, but perhaps I'll do another update and use the newer method for this. I think the newer method may also let me put him in the tavern immediately instead of only on Day 1 of the following week.


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zordrac
zordrac


Adventuring Hero
posted May 05, 2003 04:19 AM

No, this was with 3.57

I have downloaded 3.57f but haven't installed it yet
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zordrac
zordrac


Adventuring Hero
posted May 05, 2003 06:19 AM

Okay. I tried to install 3.57f but it told me that there was a broken .wog file.

I am getting quite frustrated with this wog stuff!
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