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Heroes Community > Tavern of the Rising Sun > Thread: Vets Versus Newbies--An Unfair Showdown?
Thread: Vets Versus Newbies--An Unfair Showdown?
Rachel
Rachel

Tavern Dweller
posted May 09, 2003 06:46 AM

Vets Versus Newbies--An Unfair Showdown?

I have not been a member here for anytimme and this is my very first post....But I have been reading some of the other threads and I am basically nobody and I am definitely a n00b....But it seems to me that instead of all the so-called "vets" tossing on all the so-called "newbies" all the time maybe they could all try something constructive....like helpful advice???

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GrunanCross
GrunanCross


Famous Hero
King of the Underdark
posted May 09, 2003 07:06 AM

lol....Rachel....that will never happ... tossing on nOObs is a vet past time...and most mod encourge them too...just read the last few post...ill tell u this and while i may be banned from hc....(and i really do love this place).....ill not let no one call "nOObs to nOObs".....ill not let no one push anyone over......Tim
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TheEverLiving
TheEverLiving


posted May 09, 2003 07:10 AM
Edited By: TheEverLiving on 9 May 2003

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Vets Versus Newbies--An Unfair Showdown?quote]

Would be fun 1 noob 1 (so called) VET vrs the same in an allied game, noobs would learn more (if they have the patience) and game become more popular and then we'd have more people playing rather than fighting in threads.

Oo_TEL_oO

Nina Simone <------ need I say more?
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Lews_Therin
Lews_Therin


Promising
Famous Hero
posted May 09, 2003 07:27 AM

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But it seems to me that instead of all the so-called "vets" tossing on all the so-called "newbies" all the time maybe they could all try something constructive....like helpful advice???
It seems to me that when so-called newbies ask questions, they always get good and helpful answers from so-called vets.
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GrunanCross
GrunanCross


Famous Hero
King of the Underdark
posted May 09, 2003 07:38 AM

That is true, but when a nOOb post his/hers opinion on a tactic I think that a "vet" should say why that tactic sux in thier op. Instead of saying Bs,Tosser and/or..nOOb foo.
When I trained people to play homm3 i never said....."Man nOOb foo why you do that...That is bs, If you want to learn how to play you do every thing I tell forget you own Ideas about this game these are the only one that work,...Or I'll never tell them "Go learn to play, then come back and tell me some real stuff...I just dont think that is very constructive to help any one out by making you're self look "COOL" at a new persons expence....Also the tactics given out but "vets" are really good butshould they call everyone nOObs without never playing them...or at least knowing who they are?
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Lews_Therin
Lews_Therin


Promising
Famous Hero
posted May 09, 2003 08:01 AM

Yes and no.

You are right that the language was not always adequate, to say the least. But on the other hand, your build orders were that bad.

Best advice IMO is: Play a few games online, see how your view about all this will change.
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GrunanCross
GrunanCross


Famous Hero
King of the Underdark
posted May 09, 2003 08:12 AM

That is you're op I guess ,but that is how I build..well it all depends on the map but that the rule I normally follow..I never run otta money..even on 160%...I do play Mp games just not online yet, when my puters running I'll be there...Also I'll add is that when its is asked if in what you do and you answare...should you be Tossed or flamed against..???


I think I've said this enough, however that I'm not the best just normal...and yet I get the fealing that everone is taking to offence like I said that I was...ceritinly that is not possible, their is no best..only people having fun and thats what I like to do I like to Smah all BANKs early I think that with the way I build works fine for me, most of my MP games don't last over 3weeks most is like 2weeks...but thats how I like HOMM3  short and fast..
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Damacon_Ace
Damacon_Ace


Famous Hero
Also known as Nobris Agni
posted May 09, 2003 11:49 AM

Not an uncommon factor here.

Although I am a 13 month old veteran of HC, some people still call me a n00b or a tosser - even though I am far away from it? Who cares if someone else has different strategies or different town rankings for the heroes towns? Everyone plays differently, you know!
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GrunanCross
GrunanCross


Famous Hero
King of the Underdark
posted May 09, 2003 11:53 AM

Thats right that is all Im trying to say, but no one seems to understand too well. Even more so that our MOD lets things like SUB-TOOSING go on, But who am I to say what is right and what is wrong?
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zordrac
zordrac


Adventuring Hero
posted May 09, 2003 02:02 PM

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But it seems to me that instead of all the so-called "vets" tossing on all the so-called "newbies" all the time maybe they could all try something constructive....like helpful advice???
It seems to me that when so-called newbies ask questions, they always get good and helpful answers from so-called vets.


Really?

I must have missed that one.

Most of the people who call themselves "vets" seem to overuse words like "n00b" and slang insults at people trying to be helpful....
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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
posted May 09, 2003 03:54 PM

hmmm Rachel if you refer to HC in general, read the FAQ so you know what this place is about. If anything just ask and the answer usually comes, in my days here (which are quite many now ) i havent seen many questions past away not answered.

If you mean Heroes3 tactics...

well for example: i read in a thread which is closed now in library grunantoss calling notmytohhandle a n00b.

IMO he is the best heroes3 player around lol.

As i see it people like grunantoss doesnt ask for advice, they state their opinion on what to do as in its the correct thing... then vets tell him that that tactics doesnt work online and usually explains why (or the answer is just around the corner if he bothered to search) then Grunantoss gets mad because his way isnt the best and starts arguing for his cause, which makes him seem like an even bigger n00b... just because he doesnt only use n00b tactics, he also is stupid enough not to listen when vets tries to tell him what to do and starts arguing his n00b "wisdom" instead.

So lews in completely correct, the answes come and there are alot of them alrdy if you just botherd to open your eyes instead of arguing your n00by "wisdom".

"One gotta open his eyes before he learns to see"

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MightyMage
MightyMage


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posted May 09, 2003 06:25 PM

Hey Rachel, see that link at the bottom of my signeture?  Click on it.
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IYY
IYY


Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted May 09, 2003 09:52 PM

Am I a n00b or a vet?
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gorman
gorman


Promising
Legendary Hero
Been around since before 2003
posted May 10, 2003 12:59 AM

lol I only pick on ppl I like as friends
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GrunanCross
GrunanCross


Famous Hero
King of the Underdark
posted May 12, 2003 10:23 AM

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hmmm Rachel if you refer to HC in general, read the FAQ so you know what this place is about. If anything just ask and the answer usually comes, in my days here (which are quite many now ) i havent seen many questions past away not answered.

If you mean Heroes3 tactics...

well for example: i read in a thread which is closed now in library grunantoss calling notmytohhandle a n00b.

IMO he is the best heroes3 player around lol.

As i see it people like grunantoss doesnt ask for advice, they state their opinion on what to do as in its the correct thing... then vets tell him that that tactics doesnt work online and usually explains why (or the answer is just around the corner if he bothered to search) then Grunantoss gets mad because his way isnt the best and starts arguing for his cause, which makes him seem like an even bigger n00b... just because he doesnt only use n00b tactics, he also is stupid enough not to listen when vets tries to tell him what to do and starts arguing his n00b "wisdom" instead.

So lews in completely correct, the answes come and there are alot of them alrdy if you just botherd to open your eyes instead of arguing your n00by "wisdom".

"One gotta open his eyes before he learns to see"




I just thought that if he called me a nOOb that I could call him one, cause he IS no better at the game than me...

I also "listen" to every word said, and for the most part its vets saying that nOObs tactics are BS, also I've yet to get mad. I never said my way was best..Just beast for me I could care-less what tactics they use. I my treads I want to know what online tacitcs where. I never said that they where dumb. Steve u really should read before u post
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