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stargazer
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posted May 22, 2003 04:59 PM |
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for all those necro lovers
Ive been a little late doing this and iknow there is a big thread out but here goes.
The best necro ever.
Creatures
lv1 Zombie and Skeleton
lv2 Ghoul and Dead Acher/ Archer skeleton or something
lv3 Wraith and Mummy
lv4 Grim Reaper and Vampire
lv5 Lich and Oblivan Knight
lv6 Dark Champion and Dread Knight
lv7 Bone Dragon and Fallen Angel
now i have to credit others for this because they wernt just my ideas some were found in the necro thread
and i really was iffy on the dark champion i was thinking of putting him in the asylem so if you can find another lv6 creature please post it.
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Lord_Woock
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 22, 2003 05:22 PM |
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The Grim Reaper and some lowly vampires, equal? Ooh, not good. After all, the Grim Reaper is above all living and non-living. He doesn't meddle in the affairs of others, for his job is to take them to the next world when the time comes.
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stargazer
Famous Hero
hero of order and life
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posted May 22, 2003 06:31 PM |
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ok then swich the Grim reaper with the lich
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When we are young
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Gerdash
Responsible
Famous Hero
from the Animated Peace
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posted May 22, 2003 06:51 PM |
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hmm..
it's surprising how you put grim reaper at the wimpy lvl4 with the vampire..
lvl6 (the highest level creature in homm5, as far as i have heard):
bone dragon (i would suggest that it can't fly)
grim reaper (i would humbly suggest speed 0, teleport, kills very third creature in the range of health points of the grim reaper stack; like death comes last and without escape, and also doesn't kill everyone in a large croud. also, wasn't it so that the plague killed every third person in the population?).
imho there's nothing very complicated about the two highest level necro creatures (except the spcial abilities), i am really very much surprised at someone suggesting something different.
and espcially fallen angel is a strange suggestion for death town imho.. or.. are you suggesting including one inferno creature in death town.. why?
actually imho it would be reasonable put mummy and litch on the same level at level 5 above vampire and death kinght. mummy would be like the pharaoh and litch would be like high priest. ther's a problem that the death knight is fast and the mummy is slow, yet imho a mummy should be higher rank than death knight. warriors were minions of the pharaoh. if they were riders of the apocalypse, they would of course be higher than the mummy, and might be the same level with litch without trouble but i'm not quite sure those riders are real necro creatures. well, maybe.
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lord_crusader
Promising
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posted May 22, 2003 07:07 PM |
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I think I miss the ghosts very much, I really want it back, not like in heroes 4, like heroes 2, maybe not that thing that you kill one, you have one more ghost, but yes the same ability with some changes, why not a ghost as a 6 level creature??, who only have the chance to increase the number when he kill level 6 creture, or maybe another ability like the necromancy, something like a "ghost maker" sounds weird, but I think is not is a bad idea at all 
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Lord_Woock
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posted May 22, 2003 08:39 PM |
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Ah, the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse... Well, their names were Death, War, Famine and Pestilence. IMHO only Death fits the Necro theme, while he is, in fact, the Grim Reaper.
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Gerdash
Responsible
Famous Hero
from the Animated Peace
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posted May 22, 2003 08:47 PM |
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hmm.. what about:
level 1: skeleton, ghost
which one would you be more afraid of, a lich, a death knight, a vampire, a bone dragon, or a feeble ghost that doesn't do much more than haunt?
making a ghost a levl 6 creature would mean that the ghosts would hav to be strong. the only way i would expect to see any special ability like the homm2 ghosts had would be a weak creature who's weakness makes it less significant.
of course it would be nice to nerf the gost's ability to generate new ghosts, i would even say that it would be a must.
grrrrr..... let's say that we keep the 'resurrect as ghosts ability' exactly the same as it was in homm2, but let them have a nice "attacking special."
and the "attacking special" would be something like:
1/10 of the ghost stack disappears into wind every time the ghost stack attacks a creature.
or.. grrr... even better:
let's not have it as an "attacking special," lets have it as "being on the battlefield for 1 round special." now every round 1/10 of the ghost stack disappears.
or.. a softer version of the "being on the battlefield for 1 round special:"
in the beginning of each battle 1/10 of the ghosts disappear.
or.. as a "existing one day special:"
every day 1/10 of the ghosts in an army or garrison or wherever disappear. even if some smart guy might find a way to abuse in the previous cases, this one should be fool proof. 1/10 might be a little bit too cruel here, perhaps, maybe it should rather be 5% or something like that.
so, you can keep your nice ghost special ability, but the proportional reduction of the stack keeps the numbers of ghosts in check.
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btw.. what if we say the ghost is a symbol of memory of the dead person, and the ghosts proportionally disappearing could be interpreted as forgetting.
so at level 1 there would be:
skeleton (a symbol of earthly remains)
ghost (a symbol of memory)
those two look like nice counterparts for each other.
hmm.. it looks like i'm starting to like the idea (like my own idea, lol).
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i am in an agressive mood today indeed!
*snarl*
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vladpopescu79
Promising
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a vampire of taste
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posted June 07, 2003 02:11 AM |
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Seems like the debate on the necro armies is back on topic! That's very good....
Here's my comment:
- both in h2 & h3, the necros lacked the speed and the range; with only one shooter (lich) and tons of slow moving creatures they can realy loose a battle!...
- so, I propose for the new ranks two shooters: level one and level five. On five I would keep the lich; about livel one we can debate: my proposal is to remove the skeleton as a hand to hand warrior and replace it with a skeleton-archer.
- I would place the gream reaper as top level creature.
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Dingo
Responsible
Legendary Hero
God of Dark SPAM
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posted June 12, 2003 02:03 AM |
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The Grim Reaper should the strongest creature of the Necro. But what about the upgrades. Rumor has it that H5 will have upgrades.
Ghost >>>> Ancient Ghost
Grim Reaper >>>> ??????
The Necro should also have its own special buildings. Like in H3, The Tower of Darkness.
Plus wouldn't a "Fallen-Angel" be a Devil?
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vladpopescu79
Promising
Famous Hero
a vampire of taste
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posted June 13, 2003 12:37 AM |
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Perhaps we should think about:
??? >>> Gream Reaper.
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this_other_guy
Famous Hero
{0_o} heh...
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posted June 13, 2003 09:40 AM |
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How about... Dark Effigy ==> Grim Reaper? Named that after the necro grail from homm4...
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Aquaman333
Famous Hero
of the seven seas
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posted June 14, 2003 04:18 AM |
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I think that a creature should be made up by the creators to fill that slot. They've pretty much used up every good undead legend, except maybe the Banshee, but she was pretty much a ghost. Another great unit would be a flesh golem, as in the Frankenstein Monster. I think it would be good because the Undead need a sturdy unit, now that the zombie is a worthless first level unit. (I'm not saying it was good in HoMM3).
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Michael
Adventuring Hero
Devil Slayer
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posted June 17, 2003 07:04 PM |
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Ain't the Grim Reaper a guy from the Grim & Evil cartoon?
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Vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted June 17, 2003 08:20 PM |
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Michael
Adventuring Hero
Devil Slayer
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posted June 18, 2003 08:14 PM |
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I have my own Necro idea:
lvl 1
Skeleton Paladin
fast offance creature.
Zombie
slow creature, has that spell thingy on attack.
Ghost (only at the sacraficing thingy building)
fast creature, average attack.
lvl 2
Wraith
Spellcaster creature, can cast death spells.
Flaming Skeleton Archer
Long-ranged double shooter creature.
lvl 3
Death Acolyte
fast creature, casts misfurtune at attack.
Flesh & Bone Golem
slow creature, very powerful attack.
lvl 4
Vampire
fast creature, self healing.
self healing gets more powerful when attacking a Life alligment creature.
Lich
Spellcaster creature. also has long-ranged attack.
lvl 5
Death Shade
fast creature. attacks by firing black fire. double attack.
Dread Knight
average speeded offance creature. has double damage on attack.
lvl 6
Fallen Angel
fast creature. has powerful magic-resistance.
Bone Dragon
fast creature. does a great deal of damage.
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And I got a great solution to the Grim Reaper thingy:
He's an extra lvl 6 creature once you have built the grail.
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Aquaman333
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of the seven seas
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posted June 18, 2003 10:10 PM |
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I still thnk a Flesh Golem would be neat. If you've read Frankenstein, then you know the havoc one of those babies can cause.
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vladpopescu79
Promising
Famous Hero
a vampire of taste
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posted June 19, 2003 01:00 AM |
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The Flesh Golem is a good option, but I wouldn't give up any other necro creature to have him (talking about h3 creatures, of course, not that pot-pouri from h4).
For top level creature, after some thinking I would have the bone Dragon. It seems right.
The Grim Reaper is too powerful for this role. Just like the Angel. They should not be fighters because they are immortals. Perhaps they could have other roles, you might get one of those after building the Grail structure.
By the way, building the Grail Structure would prevent your town from being conquered. Ever.
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vladpopescu79
Promising
Famous Hero
a vampire of taste
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posted June 19, 2003 01:04 AM |
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Quote:
Ever.
Actually I didn't mean "ever" like "ever". You know what I mean...it could be the last town to fall, or fall after a number of days of siege, etc.
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CountZero
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 19, 2003 05:34 AM |
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Quote:
lvl 6
Fallen Angel
fast creature. has powerful magic-resistance.
I really like the Fallen Angel creature idea. Is this a new idea or has it been used in HOMM before?
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vladpopescu79
Promising
Famous Hero
a vampire of taste
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posted June 22, 2003 02:53 AM |
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"I really like the Fallen Angel creature idea. Is this a new idea or has it been used in HOMM before?"
Actually Fallen Angel = Devil, so it's not new. But the issue is that this creature belongs to the inferno and not necros.
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