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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: Human Heroes, please
Thread: Human Heroes, please
DonGio
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posted May 29, 2003 11:04 AM

Human Heroes, please

I was thinking about the HOMM series the other day, and one thing struck me. It was my father. His swing was so quick I never saw it coming.

OK, but on a slightly more serious note:

I don't like all the creature heroes. I think the heroes are who we "identify" ourselves with in HOMM, and I think these need to be human (or VERRRRY humanoid). I mean, you can't really get into a troglodyte hero or a gnoll one either (no offense, Djive ).

I think Heroes 2 did this right (surprise!), and I would like to see as many human heroes as possible, and as few non-human as possible.

A few others is ok, like Solmyr and Sandro, but please, no medusa or elemental heroes.

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this_other_guy
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posted May 29, 2003 12:25 PM

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I don't like all the creature heroes. I think the heroes are who we "identify" ourselves with in HOMM, and I think these need to be human (or VERRRRY humanoid). I mean, you can't really get into a troglodyte hero or a gnoll one either (no offense, Djive ).

I think Heroes 2 did this right (surprise!), and I would like to see as many human heroes as possible, and as few non-human as possible.

A few others is ok, like Solmyr and Sandro, but please, no medusa or elemental heroes.


mmm... interesting, but human heroes shouldn't dominate the game entirely. Sure, some heroes such as the elementalists in homm3 were downright weird, but others such as Sandro and Solmyr, as listed above, became icons of the game.
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Lith-Maethor
Lith-Maethor


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posted May 29, 2003 02:01 PM

there is place for everyone...

non-human heroes and non-very-humanoid-like (I guess Elves, Dwarves, Djinn, etc fall in the VH categocry) should stay... I mean, is it so strange for a Minotaur here to lead his brethren into battle?
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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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posted May 29, 2003 02:04 PM

Well, it would be weird to have a gorgon or a behemoth for a hero, but what's wrong with them bipeds?
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BoogieMan
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posted May 29, 2003 02:11 PM

I think these non-human heroes actually give colour to the game. I for one would not hesitate to accuse 3DO of racism if there would only be human heroes
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EmperorSly
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posted May 29, 2003 04:15 PM

boogieman, its not racism, its specieism.

so accuse me of specieism if you will, but minotaurish and orcish heroes (at least in HOMM 4) are UGLY. others are tolerable, elves even more than that (hey, my girlfriend is elvish) but minotaur hero is not someone i wish to look at.

im ok with killing them, though.
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Vlaad
Vlaad


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ghost of the past
posted May 29, 2003 07:50 PM

Orcs, Minos and others are great. Personally, I never choose an Orcish hero, but I enjoy having and fighting them.

And tell your Elvish girlfriend I said hello.
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Draco
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posted May 29, 2003 07:55 PM

i dont mind what kind of hero they use, it makes every race more unique (mainly cause if they were all human there wouldnt be races) i just think they have to keep it to humanoid form, i mean a dragon cant exactly ride a horse. unless they goto the disciples style of adventure map where you dont actually ride horses, if you are a griffen you fly ect...(im not saying over mountains or anything or water for that matter i just mean you kinda float)

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Nasty
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posted May 29, 2003 09:14 PM

i think non-human heroes are great...the humans should be lead by humans...but there must be creture-like heroes...of course they must be well thought...indeed you cant place a gorgon to lead an army...but a medusa hero you can...these creature like heroes should in fact be mutated from humans and creatures.
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Gerdash
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posted May 29, 2003 09:26 PM

nice to se that thread started by someone with a minotaur avatar.

the point about troglodytes is holds for me, i almost never pick a troglodyte hero. and also more or less about minotaurs, i rather don't like to pick them.

the genies are nice, though. and elven and orkish heroes are a must in the corresponding towns imho (well, the homm3 style orcs, not homm4 style razorbacks).

i guess with minostaurs and razorbacks it's that they have a bull or boar head. if i were a king, i probably wouldn't trust my military to be led by someone with a head of a boar or a bull. i would rather pick some elf or genie or orc. don't know why.. maybe they would just feel too weird or don't look very trustworthy or look dumb in the face or whatever.

the reason why i don't like to pick troglodytes is different, though.

btw my favourite hero was atlas of homm2, whenever i saw him in the tavern and looked him in the face, i always felt that this was the guy who will get the job done right.
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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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posted May 29, 2003 09:33 PM

lol.

Heroes is a fantasy game and having heroes from all alignments is a good thing IMO.

Just human heroes would ruin the whole fantasy concept, nope... much can be improved from H4 but this isnt one of those things.

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shaowei
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posted June 02, 2003 08:28 AM

I find minotaur, ogre, gnoll heroes (HOMM3) among the coolest ones. Dracon, Dessa, Gunnar - all great looking heroes. I play orcs in RPGs a lot, maybe that's why

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Khayman
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posted June 02, 2003 08:41 AM

Bring On The Chicks!

Personally, I would like to see more hot girlie heroines.  I would also like to see full body shots for their icons instead of just head shots.  Embarrassingly enough, I spent like two days trying to cast the spell 'View All' on the heroines of Heroes 3.  Didn't work...

Who says computer gamers are not normal.  Isn't that right guys?  Umm...guys?
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Gerdash
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from the Animated Peace
posted June 02, 2003 12:28 PM

i hope chicken heroes will not be included in homm *blink*
it would be worse than troglodytes.

actually, it seems that there are many people who like the non-human heroes a lot, and i wouldn't like to spoil their fun, so if there was a poll, i would vote for freedom of choice, i.e. for a mix of human and non-human heroes.

khayman: maybe you could just find yourself a good porn site? as i understand, you like soft, so you should have a good chance to find one. and remember, there are also some girls who play homm, including jvc-s wife, as he claims.

as for me, a face that is ok to look at, is enough in homm.
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Khayman
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posted June 02, 2003 01:27 PM

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khayman: maybe you could just find yourself a good porn site? as i understand, you like soft, so you should have a good chance to find one.
Find one? Find One?!? No way! I am gonna make one. www.NekkedHeroesGirlies.com  I figure with all these lonely computer dudes (such as myself) who play Heroes, I will make a fortune.  I'm gonna be rich!  Rich I tell ya!
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and remember, there are also some girls who play homm, including jvc-s wife, as he claims.
Whoa!  What does she look like?

To be serious for a moment, I think that they should leave the number of non-human or mixed race heroes the same or even increase it.  I think the variety is not only good, but it leaves a lot of room to create specific storylines for maps and/or campaigns, not to mention possible tournament clans or teams for multiplayer.  I think it also makes the Heroes world more colorful and diverse, IMO.
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CountZero
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Adventuring Hero
posted June 03, 2003 05:35 AM

Hero Worship .... and more?

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I don't like all the creature heroes. I think the heroes are who we "identify" ourselves with in HOMM, and I think these need to be human


I agree. With some of us it goes a bit further than "identify" with. I mean there we are on a long campaign trail together, sleeping out under the stars and battling hordes of terrifying creatures. It's bound to lead to a close relationship between player and hero.

I admit it to the world I would go with Tawni Balfour but I would be thinking of Emilia Nighthaven.

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Gerdash
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from the Animated Peace
posted June 03, 2003 11:23 AM

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I agree. With some of us it goes a bit further than "identify" with. I mean there we are on a long campaign trail together, sleeping out under the stars and battling hordes of terrifying creatures. It's bound to lead to a close relationship between player and hero.
i see, i guess that was what khayman thought, right? or maybe we should have rl prototypes of the heros and there would be a gathering every year or so and those prototypes would show up there, etc.
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Khayman
Khayman


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posted June 03, 2003 12:57 PM

Now We're Talkin' !!!

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i see, i guess that was what khayman thought, right? or maybe we should have rl prototypes of the heros and there would be a gathering every year or so and those prototypes would show up there, etc.
Exactly! I got first dibs on Adela the Cleric.  She acts so prim and pious, but I know underneath that facade she is just plain naughty.
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Romana
Romana


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Thx :D
posted June 03, 2003 01:35 PM

Would be funny to see RL reflected to HoMM and have chinese, indian, white , black and what not in the game.
I would personally like to see indians and chinese  

I dun have a problem with the orcs and minotaurs so they can stay too  

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Marelt_Ekiran
Marelt_Ekiran


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posted June 04, 2003 12:47 AM
Edited by alcibiades at 11:47, 29 Jun 2009.

Anyone who is interested, take a look at this thread. Maybe it is worth reviving.

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=2298



Moderator's note:This topic has been closed, as it refers to an older version of the game. To discuss Heroes 3, please go to Library Of Enlightenment, to discuss Heroes 4, please go to War Room Of Axeoth, to discuss Heroes 5, go to Temple Of Ashan.
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