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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: i am not sure if this has been discussed(fire wall).
Thread: i am not sure if this has been discussed(fire wall).
kasparov
kasparov


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posted July 29, 2003 09:48 AM

i am not sure if this has been discussed(fire wall).

I FOUND FIRE WALL THE BEST OF ALL LEVEL 2 SPELLS. IT IS EVEN MORE POWERFUL WITH ADVANCED/XPERT FIRE AND A HIGH POWER VALUE and/or LUNA.
HERE IS A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH ONE FAST TROOP AND FIRE WALL(*NOTE*: NEWBIES DON'T EVEN BOTHER ARGUING WITH ME CUZ ALL I NEED TO SAY IS THAT YOU DON'T GET IT AND YOU NEVER WILL)

naga bank(one bone dragon and some spell points is enuff, this is why i mastered the map dw, well at least against normal players. note that the nagas' moral is 0 and unless it's 30 nagas it is always easy to rob the bank with one bone drag and,approximately 30 mana THATS RIGHT 30 is ENOUGH)

griffin conservatory(!!!the BEST place to use fw!!!. when you put the 3-hex-fire rite against the left side of the battle field, leaving only ONE space for your fast single-hex-troop(your only troop), the griffins would WAIT AND DEFEND THENSELVES. next turn place a second fire wall rite next to the first one, guess what?  griffins would FLY INTO THOSE 2 FIRE WALLS AND GET BURNT TWICE.)

dwarven treasury(those poor midgets wouldn't resist ANY chance of getting burnt)

imp cache(well not a place i often need fire wall but still they get burnt pretty well too)



CONCLUSION: I THINK THE MAIN REASON THAT I LIKE ANGELS BETTER THAN ARCHANGELS IS BECAUSE THEY ONLY TAKE UP ONE HEX, and single-hex units are perfect with fire wall.
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DoddTheSlayer
DoddTheSlayer


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posted July 29, 2003 12:36 PM
Edited By: DoddTheSlayer on 29 Jul 2003

I would like to know more about how you do the Naga banks. Or is this your secret?
I am assuming that you need a flyer to pull this off, and the Nagas need to come out of the corner first so that you would need a mass slow on them to avoid the first hit.

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kasparov
kasparov


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posted July 29, 2003 01:32 PM

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I would like to know more about how you do the Naga banks. Or is this your secret?
I am assuming that you need a flyer to pull this off, and the Nagas need to come out of the corner first so that you would need a mass slow on them to avoid the first hit.



ok some time i will try to get some pics uploaded to show the steps. rite now i just need some sleepZzzzzzz
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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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posted July 29, 2003 03:46 PM

if working this sounds interesting indeed...

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kasparov
kasparov


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posted July 30, 2003 06:51 AM

DEFINITELY

those ppl who dis LUNA still make me wanna cry.
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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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posted July 30, 2003 10:02 AM

Huh? Who disses Luna? I never seen anyone do that around here (or I'm just blind as hell ). In fact, I've seen a bunch of people praise her.
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kasparov
kasparov


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posted July 30, 2003 10:14 AM

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Huh? Who disses Luna? I never seen anyone do that around here (or I'm just blind as hell ). In fact, I've seen a bunch of people praise her.


here this will cure your blindness.


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 posted July 14, 2003 06:15 AM  

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Ciele (super magic arrow) or the two money makers (Gelare and Grindan) are my usual choice for elementalists. However, I think all elementalists are useful (maybe except Luna).
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Lord_Woock
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posted July 30, 2003 10:16 AM

Oops, I think I've seen that one somewheres
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kasparov
kasparov


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posted August 02, 2003 04:47 AM

well i think this is the best way to demonstrate the use of fire wall...
object: rob a 4*5 naga bank with luna
requirements:
luna: spell power>=6, or p=5(4?) with fire orb. 12 mana(yes! only 12!).
expert fire
one bone dragon(or any fast flying unit, but no morale bonuses for nagas in the first 2 rounds)




note: there are many ways to kill 5 stacks of nagas with 2 fire walls, here is just one example to change the way most ppl look at this AWESOME spell
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Conanthebarbar
Conanthebarbar


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posted August 02, 2003 01:33 PM

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those ppl who dis LUNA still make me wanna cry.


This is very nice to point out this Kaspy. Now I wanted to make a bad joke wtf is Luna? I dont play SOD and dont really know/like SOD heroes. I am curios if this works with some RoE heroes too? That would be a big help if you call a hero there too who can make it and able to get exp fire.

Unfortunately +50% fire damage is not always in backpack too, but fire magic is the skill too, which many veterans declines. I was only so stupid to point out in antoher thread that fire magic is not so bad even opponent has recanter cloak (so no inferno, no arma, no bersker etc) but a mass curse can take out some powers from barbarians since they can not use mass cure or mass dispel (lack of water magic).

Anyway my question is: does this work naga bank story with some heretic hero with expert fire and without +50 % fire dmg arti? What spell power you need to take naga bank without that artifact (expert fire and sorcery are ok)?
And how much extra dmg does mean that Luna's speciality is firewall spell?
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sniper
sniper


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posted August 02, 2003 01:42 PM

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those ppl who dis LUNA still make me wanna cry.


This is very nice to point out this Kaspy. Now I wanted to make a bad joke wtf is Luna? I dont play SOD and dont really know/like SOD heroes. I am curios if this works with some RoE heroes too? That would be a big help if you call a hero there too who can make it and able to get exp fire.

Unfortunately +50% fire damage is not always in backpack too, but fire magic is the skill too, which many veterans declines. I was only so stupid to point out in antoher thread that fire magic is not so bad even opponent has recanter cloak (so no inferno, no arma, no bersker etc) but a mass curse can take out some powers from barbarians since they can not use mass cure or mass dispel (lack of water magic).

Anyway my question is: does this work naga bank story with some heretic hero with expert fire and without +50 % fire dmg arti? What spell power you need to take naga bank without that artifact (expert fire and sorcery are ok)?
And how much extra dmg does mean that Luna's speciality is firewall spell?



1.Luna is an Armagedons Blade hero from Conflux, u noob
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thecastrated
thecastrated


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posted August 03, 2003 04:27 AM

Why did the fire-wall shift to the centre in the third screen?
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rychenroller
rychenroller


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posted August 03, 2003 04:39 AM

It was recast there.
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thecastrated
thecastrated


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posted August 03, 2003 10:15 AM
Edited By: thecastrated on 3 Aug 2003

I remember that for quicksand the comp will avoid the quicksand. However it seems that in this case the naga Queen walked right into it in first turn, after the bone drag moved to beside the fire.

Is this true that here at least comp will maximise its own damage? The Naga Queen could hav attacked the bone without moving thru the fire..

And may I know for how many rounds does a firewall last?

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