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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: Why do you guys like to argue so much?
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pandora
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posted September 01, 2008 06:26 PM

Why do you guys like to argue so much?

This isn't a joke thread! lol

I'm really interested in why you constant debaters get such a kick out of engaging each other wherever and whenever you can.

I'm not aiming this at anyone in particular, but hoping that maybe some of the responses will shed some light on why people post as they do.

I can't imagine that the answer is that you like to prove you're right all the time, because I can't say that I've ever really seen anyone do that in a thread here

I'm guessing that its more enjoyment of the metal challenge that comes with debating someone. I see it as a sign of respect for someone when you constantly want to engage them in conversation about different points.

Is it a thrill thing - like a gambling rush? lol I've seen many people take on the position of Devil's Advocate just to keep a debate going.

So what is it that keeps you coming back into the ring? What are your goals when you post in a debate, or turn an innocent little thread into a debate?
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Asheera
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posted September 01, 2008 06:34 PM

I'm seriously done arguing with TheDeath, just like JJ and GoW at CH. He may respond to my posts, but I'll ignore his
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antipaladin
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posted September 01, 2008 06:35 PM

its obiouse
its a love triangle as will seggested , ash is invloved with death,and death is inlove with mvs,who loves ash.
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TheDeath
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posted September 01, 2008 06:35 PM
Edited by TheDeath at 18:37, 01 Sep 2008.

I feel like posting in this since it is somewhat targeted at me. Personally I don't like to get into flame wars. What I consider flame wars will become clear in a moment.

It's not like I reply to other members aggressively (well, I am talking about the Calm Arguing thread). I'm using some points. I personally find absolutely no substance what-so-ever in members calling me "delusional" or "I forgot, your subjective ideas blabla" or "you need help Death!". What is the point of such statements apart from obvious provoking into a quote war, or worse, if you do their game, get into a flame war?

I have been trying to write stuff that has reasonable background, such as saying that it's not ok to blame all the fault on your neighbor if you do the same things (metaphor). I never called anyone delusional, wacko, "someone that needs help" or other nonsense that serves no purpose.

Everytime I argue with someone sensible it's like they freak out or something If you post in a thread you should expect some answers, especially if your post includes someone else (such as OSM in that thread mentioned previously).

Anyway I hope you get my point.

@Ash:
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I'm seriously done arguing with TheDeath, just like JJ and GoW at CH. He may respond to my posts, but I'll ignore his
We call that "burying the head in the sand"

now seriously, if you make a post, especially concerning something else that may include someone else (OSM) then be ready for a reply.

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pandora
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posted September 01, 2008 06:36 PM

This isn't meant to be a criticizing thread at all, I really am curious about it.

I hope you and TheDeath can find a way to resolve things, its not good when things get out of hand
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Cepheus
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posted September 01, 2008 06:39 PM

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I can't imagine that the answer is that you like to prove you're right all the time


From my experience (and I have some, just look at CH's Might and Magic forum), this is in fact the most applicable answer

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pandora
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posted September 01, 2008 06:53 PM

TheDeath, this isn't directed at you - its a general query

lol Cepheus, if it's true that the reason why is because they like to prove they're right - how disappointing life must be for them lol

Take the I gave up on believing in God thread, three million posts - and no one wins
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TheDeath
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posted September 01, 2008 06:54 PM

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Take the I gave up on believing in God thread, three million posts - and no one wins
This

it's what I said in the Calm Arguing first post

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mvassilev
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posted September 01, 2008 07:06 PM
Edited by mvassilev at 19:06, 01 Sep 2008.

Asheera:
Come on! Don't be that way. You may be mad at him now or something, but he's still a fun person to debate. Relax.

Anti:
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its a love triangle as will seggested , ash is invloved with death,and death is inlove with mvs,who loves ash.


TheDeath:
Generally, I would agree, but when you say that a mechanistic universe and invisible pink unicorns are somehow similar... no.

Original topic:
Well, I simply have this world view, which people who have debated with me extensively know. I have this world view, and I see everything a certain way, and, to a certain extent, I don't see how people can see it otherwise. (I mean, I understand if they have rather different preferences than me, but, aside form that, I don't.) So I try to understand why people think differently from me. I post my view, and others debate me, and I try to see how other people hold such wierd and twisted views. And so the arguing starts, and, before I know it, my post count is 100 posts bigger, I've been called SELFISH, subjective, and a tyrant, and yet I have fun.
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TheDeath
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posted September 01, 2008 07:09 PM

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Generally, I would agree, but when you say that a mechanistic universe and invisible pink unicorns are somehow similar... no.
Even though you fail to give any arguments which I don't counter with mine (NOTE: this means we both have similar arguments, so mine are not better than yours, and neither yours, it means they are on the same level!!). But let us not get off topic with that here

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posted September 01, 2008 07:11 PM

That's exactly my point. When you give those two equal credence, then it's sometimes hard to take you seriously. No offense.
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pandora
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posted September 01, 2008 07:13 PM

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So I try to understand why people think differently from me. I post my view, and others debate me, and I try to see how other people hold such wierd and twisted views.


Do you honestly think that you're able to truly listen to what they're saying when in the back of your mind, you are already set in the notion that any opposing view is weird and twisted?

And yes, I saw the face, but chose to ignore it
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posted September 01, 2008 07:19 PM

I certainly try to consider them, but I'm usually certain that I'm correct. I just try to understand why some people think differently from me. Usually, it seems to be a difference in preferences.
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posted September 01, 2008 07:19 PM

The universe and unicorns are similar in three terms:

1) We have equal influence on the existence of both (none)
2) We have equal knowledge of both (none, except how we think they basically look like and function)
3) They both start with a "UN"



We could make a thread about it.
Somewhere.
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pandora
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posted September 01, 2008 07:22 PM

Mvass, have you ever found in the course of any of the discussions you've had - that your view has changed?

I often read your posts and wish that I could get you to come back here and read them in say 15 years, and get your responses then

Baklava, there's no disputing your points - in the case of whether or not there is a link between unicorns and the universe - you win!
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posted September 01, 2008 08:50 PM

I thought women liked to argue CONSTANTLY.
Cant get along with them because they are never satisfied unless they got something to &^%^* about Even if they have no reason, they make it up
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pandora
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posted September 01, 2008 08:58 PM

They probably only like to argue with you because you're such a sexist ... you know what

If I didn't know you better you'd be in such trouble kid...

You're a fine example of liking to argue, you don't even care if you know what the arguement is about - you smell it and you gots ta jump right in there.


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antipaladin
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posted September 01, 2008 09:00 PM

DID someone said sex?
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Aculias
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posted September 01, 2008 09:01 PM

of all people.
Pandy said sex

sex.
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posted September 01, 2008 09:03 PM

sex
Submissive
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Xectuion
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