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Thread: What is the most dissapointing feature of Heroes V? This thread is 18 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 · «PREV / NEXT»
del_diablo
del_diablo


Legendary Hero
Manifest
posted April 15, 2008 08:26 PM

One of my main complains is the useage of grapics, its overdoing it at some points......... it evens is doing preloading after game load
The animations partly suck..... and alot of the design was really bad(inferno ripped Moria), alot of movie ripping in the looks.
The "attack direction pointing" is really messed up...... among stuff....

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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted April 15, 2008 08:46 PM

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-no dialogue boxes when you vist objects like mines, just an icon


Thank God for that. After seeing the same message in H3 for millionth time, I wanted to smash my monitor with the keyboard. icons are SO MUCH BETTER.

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-needs less thinking than Homm3 WoG, even less than sod I think


Oh, come on, not the H3 bias again. It was a good game, but extremely simple. let it rest in peace.

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-boring animation in main menu


I prefer it over a plain old screen which gets boring like 20 times faster.

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soundtrack. In H3 was great, in H4 was great, in H5 sucks.


Haven theme, haven siege, academy theme.. They suck? I don't think so And H3/H4 had worse soundtracks than H2, anyway.

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Fauch
Fauch


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
posted April 15, 2008 08:51 PM

the game is too easy (but I've only played in normal mode, I hope the hard mode will be decent)

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zamrai
zamrai


Adventuring Hero
Moonlight Melody
posted April 15, 2008 08:59 PM
Edited by zamrai at 21:04, 15 Apr 2008.

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the game is too easy (but I've only played in normal mode, I hope the hard mode will be decent)


I think H5 is not easier that previous ones. Playing 1 vs 1 with computer is not a big thing to win even on heroic but take more players and at the beggining of the 3rd week you will have plenty of enemy heroes attacking your castle - all exacly the same time. This is not funny it's more like bugged (they shouldn't cooperate that way)

And AI should be definetly fixed. Sometimes having battle against dungeon, computer casts some useless spells like idiot instead of mass destructive or implosion. I just can't imagine any human player playing this way.

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del_diablo
del_diablo


Legendary Hero
Manifest
posted April 15, 2008 09:03 PM

The opening screen consumes ram....... allmost forgot, i want someting sexy not a random piece of showoff......
The worst part is: No freaking Defend Animation and the Dragon models sucks imo........
The lack if "Migth and Magic" really kills the game too.
The lack of more spells... soo few spells around lategame, very few
Leaving behind the "class upgrades"
The lacking "alternativ upgrade" useable..... alot are useless....
Lack of complete balance.....
Design for buildt in maps(it sucks imo, but people allways make maps <3)

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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted April 15, 2008 09:08 PM

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the game is too easy (but I've only played in normal mode, I hope the hard mode will be decent)


correction: the AI is worth less then sh*t, but does it change a thing? The better players beat any AI, no matter how good it is.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted April 15, 2008 09:18 PM

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The worst part is: No freaking Defend Animation and the Dragon models sucks imo........
The lack if "Migth and Magic" really kills the game too.
Leaving behind the "class upgrades"
The lacking "alternativ upgrade" useable..... alot are useless....
Lack of complete balance.....

Dragon models suck..? They are better than previous as far as I'm concerned.
Lack of might and magic? You are kidding me, even previously pure magic factions as academy and dungeon have a duality now.
Class upgrades in H5 were rather cheesy.
No, most have a purpose.
Balance is fine, there are few things that need to be addressed. Only
thing you have to accept is that certain factions are just great in earlygame.
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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted April 15, 2008 09:25 PM

No matter what you'll say Elvin, H3 fanboys will always tell you the pixelated ugly h3 excuse for a dragon is the most wonderful thing in the world.

of course it's a matter of taste, but come on, "taste" also has its limits. H5 blackdragon model is rather beautiful. maybe not as intimidating and majestic as the H2 black dragon, but it eats H3&H4 dragon alive.

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Warmonger
Warmonger


Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
posted April 15, 2008 09:28 PM

Why 300kbps maps take so much time to load? I may understand the game needs to get all textures, but they are always all the same no matter how large map is. This leads to the conclusion that code is f*** up.

The same is true for AI turns. Why does it think many times longer than H3 or H4? No ingenius algorithms detected.

Luckily the ridiculous level gap and random map generator will be modded within days

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted April 15, 2008 09:33 PM

For the record I liked the H4 blackie But yes H5 is just great and the H2 is exactly as you described.
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ZeroXcuses
ZeroXcuses


Known Hero
posted June 17, 2008 06:50 AM

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2. Combat is still so trivial that I just quick combat and play it as an adventure game. Anyone that claims there is deep strategy to combat in this game hasn't played many strategy games.

3. Djinns look retarded. No offense meant to actual retards who may be reading this. I dunno where that concept for a Djinn could have come from except perhaps hallucinegenic (sp?) drugs. MINOR I KNOW but irritating.

4. Lack of a manual. After 2 full plays of the Warlords map i really DO NOT know the skill trees. Is it available somewhere in game?

NOTE: on the flip side, perhaps not knowing this information is a benefit since it makes you learn.

5. AI on adventure map. I can take a single hero with single monster on a tour thru hostile lands and flag Multi resources. When I am finally forced to flee or am actually killed, the resources stay mine for a long time. Resource grabs are critical but AI doesn't know that. They walk right past stuff that would take minimal move points to take at no cost.

6. I can see events where I SHOULD NOT SEE THEM. I think this is the "Fog of War" issue people have discussed.

13.  Everyone gets too many spells.  I guess this is Heroes of Magic and Magic 5.

15.  Can't play in a window.  HOMM4 was always a good backup item to do while folding hands while playing poker on line.

2. I cannot agree with you, combat can be very interesting.
3. You're right. Djinns are weak.
4. Refer to www.heroesofmightandmagic.com\heroes5.
5. I agree.
6. IMO, Fog of War is not necessary for this kind of game.
13. You're right.
15. My Documents\My Games\Heroes of Might and Magic V\Profiles\<User Name>\user.cfg,
open this file with notepad,
find "setvar gfx_fullscreen = 1",
change it to "setvar gfx_fullscreen = 0",
then you can play in window mode
(you may have to change the resolution in game to see the effect).


I just tried windowed mode and it does not work for me.

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Darkshadow
Darkshadow


Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
posted June 17, 2008 08:29 AM

The most disappointing feature?

1.Ubival maps are bad
2.Inferno is teh suck
3.Modding can be extremely hard at times
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Isabel
Isabel


Known Hero
Dragonblessed
posted June 17, 2008 08:50 AM
Edited by Isabel at 09:14, 17 Jun 2008.

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2. Combat is still so trivial that I just quick combat and play it as an adventure game. Anyone that claims there is deep strategy to combat in this game hasn't played many strategy games.


Quick combat guarantees failure. And I have played too much strategy games that I have to claim there is deep strategy to combat,
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Darkshadow
Darkshadow


Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
posted June 17, 2008 08:56 AM
Edited by Darkshadow at 08:59, 17 Jun 2008.

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Anyone that claims there is deep strategy to combat in this game hasn't played many strategy games.

More than you can list, and yet still I claim this to be about deep strategy, you obviously only play against easy AI and such.
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NIght_Heaven
NIght_Heaven


Adventuring Hero
Lonely star in heaven dream
posted June 17, 2008 01:40 PM

The most disappointing feature?
Tha fact that Heroes of might and magic 5 appear lol. Full of bugs and so boring...Massive loading times for ai to move or to charge a map for playing. Ai is dumb even the heroes 2 ai is better. The graphics aren't good for this type of game..Imagine a superb 2d high res. game with many colorful things....
The creatures are retarded and ugly =))  Meh...thats my point

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Asheera
Asheera


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
posted June 17, 2008 05:55 PM
Edited by Asheera at 17:59, 17 Jun 2008.

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Why 300kbps maps take so much time to load? I may understand the game needs to get all textures, but they are always all the same no matter how large map is. This leads to the conclusion that code is f*** up.

The game has to load all textures/models and other things used in the map, which are btw NOT found in the map file (that would be stupid)
But yeah I agree it DOES take long to load.

The most disappointing for me: the fact that it has some bugs (especially in Multiplayer) and that it is slow (slow as in 'low frames per second' and high loading times, not in gameplay); just because it's a TBS doesn't mean it should be slow (I don't think Nival, with this engine, could create a playable RTS)
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ZeroXcuses
ZeroXcuses


Known Hero
posted June 18, 2008 12:19 AM

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Why 300kbps maps take so much time to load? I may understand the game needs to get all textures, but they are always all the same no matter how large map is. This leads to the conclusion that code is f*** up.

The game has to load all textures/models and other things used in the map, which are btw NOT found in the map file (that would be stupid)
But yeah I agree it DOES take long to load.

The most disappointing for me: the fact that it has some bugs (especially in Multiplayer) and that it is slow (slow as in 'low frames per second' and high loading times, not in gameplay); just because it's a TBS doesn't mean it should be slow (I don't think Nival, with this engine, could create a playable RTS)


Co-sign. Man, if there are multiple AI on the map, your turns will take at least 30 seconds.

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DagothGares
DagothGares


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
posted June 18, 2008 12:44 AM

This has probably already been said, but... Dark energy is too much of a limit IMHO. Sure, the element of strategy is now implemented with the necros, but... I just miss having loads and loads of skelly archers that can finish most stacks in one shot... ow, well...
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ZeroXcuses
ZeroXcuses


Known Hero
posted June 18, 2008 01:00 AM

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This has probably already been said, but... Dark energy is too much of a limit IMHO. Sure, the element of strategy is now implemented with the necros, but... I just miss having loads and loads of skelly archers that can finish most stacks in one shot... ow, well...


Co-sign as well. First, vampires were nerfed, now this. Its getting harder and harder to find legitimate reasons to even play with the Necropolis. Before, necroes were unique because necromancery was one advantage that they had over all factions. Now EVERYONE has a specialization. And with what appears to be no limit to how high morale can be and Necros being uneffected, you will get destroyed buy Haven, Sylvan, or Stronghold often before your whole army gets all of their turns.

Now this dark energy crap. If I defeat one neutral stack, all my dark energy is gone to resurrect like, 15 vampires. Stupid.

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Berny-Mac
Berny-Mac


Promising
Legendary Hero
Lord Vader
posted June 29, 2008 02:42 PM

that is true. if necro is going to suck like that all the time, i'd might as well play warcraft three undead.
at least in warcraft three, the undead had some really killer guys
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