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antipaladin
Promising
Legendary Hero
of Ooohs and Aaahs
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posted August 14, 2008 06:36 PM |
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i think that the elementals as creatures are not that intersting.
maye the creatures who lived in thouse planes?
fire salamander , triton,ravenman, and jaggournates? (mm8)?
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Lure_of_Lilith
Adventuring Hero
2nd Level, Expert Blind
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posted August 16, 2008 03:17 PM |
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In the Wake of Gods
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i have heroes of might and magic III resorection of erathia i dont know how to update the game too and i dunno how to check my version of the game how do i get conflux?
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Firstly, hello and welcome to Heroes Community!  Two (official) expansion packs were released for Heroes III: Armageddon's Blade (which features a new race town alignment; Conflux, new heroes, campaigns, structures and a random map generator) and Shadow of Death (includes a new artifact "combination" system as well as new artifacts to go with that new feature and new capaign maps)
Perhaps you have the original Heroes III game (Restoration of Erathia). So in order to have the Conflux town, you have to have the Armegeddon's Blade expansion. HIH! 
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Lure_of_Lilith
Adventuring Hero
2nd Level, Expert Blind
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posted August 18, 2008 03:21 AM |
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No problem!
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aww =(
thanks very much for explaining this too me!
No problem! GICH! You could always buy the expansion online when you can't find it in stores. Try Amazon or something.  Hope to see more of your posts here! 
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Neno
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 20, 2008 01:13 PM |
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What about a ban to the conflux town?
Seriously, any of you know if it's possible to install a patch or something to keep HoMM3 complete with rogues artifacts and stuff, and eliminate the odds a random town generates a conflux? It would be great
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted August 20, 2008 01:24 PM |
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No patch needed. Just load the right template, where conflux town is disabled.
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Neno
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 20, 2008 01:28 PM |
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No patch needed. Just load the right template, where conflux town is disabled.
Sry but even if I'm not new to heroes I'm new to this internet comunity and I don't know what's a template 
I'll check it out, thankyou
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Shares
Supreme Hero
I am. Thusly I am.
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posted August 20, 2008 03:36 PM |
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I disagree, I think it's wrong to disable Conflux, just as necromancry. They are unbalanced. Conflux have great lvl 1 creatures but not unbalanced, they need more hp to be unbalanced. But SE's are way out, they are often better than IE's wich are an avarage lvl 3. FE's are just regular lvl 4 (campare with (horned) demons). EE's are almost equal to dendroids, they have better magic res. but have no bind ability. Then ME's are unbalanced too, good speed, high dmg, attack all, and magic immune. You could remove one of those and they'll still be a Good lvl 6. Firebirds sucks!!! Average with double growth but way too good when upg. HIGHEST SPEED, HIGH DAMAGE (since it's also doubled with growth), OUTRAGE HEALTH!!! (DOUBLED AND REVIVED) cheap, fire immune. They are normal lvl 7, but a bit too cheap and DOUBLED GROWTH. WHAT WERE 3DO THINKING!!! CONFLUX ARE THE WORST TOWN EVER, UNBALANCED AND HALF OF CREATURES WERE ALREADY MADE! It was made only to make a new expansion available! But they shouldn\t be disabled. It\s a part of the game, a bad part, but still a part. What's next? Removing boring campaigns? Skipping useless missions?
Sorry for the long quote.
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Hell_Wizard
Famous Hero
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posted August 20, 2008 04:39 PM |
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By official power and cost calculation Conflux are the last by power, but first by cost efficiency. I don't agree that.
Their 2nd level units (both upgraded and non - upgraded) are the most powerful ones from their level
Their Ice Elementals (level 3 upg.) are also more powerful from the others of their level.
(This was all by the calculation results)
Actually my favorite unit is the Magic Elemental. He has immune to ALL spells and attack all around them (except allies).
The Phoenixes are Strong, But their HP are redused because the Rebirth ability. And because of the late arrival of the Conflux town, they are not counted as units within the Expert Slayer unit range. That's very good. The Sacred Phoenixes have Slayer, so they are powerful against other 8ght lvl. units.
The Conflux are Elemental Magicians. That's the reason the Aurora Borelias is the most powerful Grail Structure (For Magicians).
And the last Thing I will say is : The difference between MM (, HOMM and COMM) and other strategies is the MAGIC. That's why the Conflux are not the last by power. The statistics I was telling about show only might.
Conflux Are THE BEST
(And sorry for my English)
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neno
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 20, 2008 09:18 PM |
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Firebirds sucks!!!
Yep, they are so unbalanced. If Phoenix growth is 4 per week, ghost dragon should be at least 5 
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Thomas
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 28, 2008 07:52 PM |
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Enough said!
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neno
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 28, 2008 10:08 PM |
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Enough said!
That's Nasty! I think it took an entire afternoon considering the hitpoints of behemots and the 1dmg per turn of The sprite.
About the conflux, I think they are the strongest as power of units / cost / week growth.
Considering the highest speed and the 4 per week growth of phoenixes, they have the best 2nd, 3rd and 7th level creatures of the game (and one of the best 1st, sprites). They have also an overpowered grail structure.
But they can't be the best, because they really look gay.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted August 28, 2008 11:49 PM |
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That's Nasty! I think it took an entire afternoon considering the hitpoints of behemots and the 1dmg per turn of The sprite.
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Lol...seems you didn't get the idea of that pic, did you?..
Hint: Just look up Luna's speciality again...
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neno
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 29, 2008 12:45 AM |
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That's Nasty! I think it took an entire afternoon considering the hitpoints of behemots and the 1dmg per turn of The sprite.
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Lol...seems you didn't get the idea of that pic, did you?..
even with firewall, nasty! About 3500hp of bennies!
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Hell_Wizard
Famous Hero
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posted August 29, 2008 11:53 AM |
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Enough said!
You needed to do the same with a peasant, more impressing
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tyraxor
Adventuring Hero
Ruler of the burning Desert
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posted September 03, 2008 03:39 PM |
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conflux does have some powerfull creatures but they are expensive
And the fairies are just to weak
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cleed
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 04, 2010 10:11 PM |
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why do ppl always say conflux is expensive do they actually buy all those fire and earth elementals? it's like buying zombies in necro or scorpicores in dungeon unless u r left w/ not much choice u dont tend to get them all
i rmb my friend did an experiment w/ no magic and same stat heroes conducting 2 weeks worth of conflux troops w/o fire and earth vs any one castle w/ all their creatures conflux ended up beating almost every single race except stronghold guess in that case they have somewhat the lowest cost in troops strenght/price wise wouldnt u say
anyone here ever uses erdamon or thunar? they kinda own
where is the dissection here can someone find me a post where it gives day by day tips on how to build certain towns etc that'd be much appreciated
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heroforhirerob
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 21, 2011 05:34 AM |
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The Conflux is powerful to be sure, but I'm not so sure I would call it unbalanced per se..
Pixies have speed and growth..that's it. The upgrade is powerful..somewhat compensated by their absurdly low hit pts. Still..this unit is VERY useful early game.
Air Elementals are powerful...but their Storm upgrade really shines due to the potential damage. Maybe the best level 2 creature period.
But...then we have...
Water elementals are just meh...the upgrade makes them useful due to being shooters, but inferior to Stormies.
Fire Elementals are...so average I never use them unless I absolutely have to. Energies are better due to the speed boost and the flying..but they're still basically support.
Earth/Magma...too slow to be much use beyond castle defense...never brought into the field.
Psychic/Magic elementals....now THESE guys I like.....basically faster less durable hydras with magic immunity to boot. I'll take these over the hydras any day.
Firebirds/Phoenixes: Of course these are amazing...primarily due to their speed and the speed with which you can get their building. A couple Firebirds in week 1 or 2 makes your life a hell of a lot easier.
As for the castle itself...people talk about how overpowered the grail building is...but how many times do you actually get to use it? Hardly a game breaker if you ask me. It's powerful..but by late game..you should have it wrapped up without the Grail anyways.
Artifact Merchants is awesome...due to the combination artifacts. Magic University isn't a big deal to me. Most Conflux heroes get offered the magic schools multiple times over the course of a game. To me...the university is pointless unless you need that magic school right now
Their mage guilds are on par with the other towns...not matter what town you get...Town Portal plus Expert Earth means...you win...easily.
My ideal army with this town...is Sprites...Stormies...Ices...Magic..Phoenixes...split the Phoenixes into two stacks....and tear the enemy up.
Other weaknesses....Direct damage can really tear this town up...many of your beasts are vulnerable to direct damage spells and/or have low hit points...and only Sprites and Phoenixes can be raised from the dead.
The heroes of this town very wildly in quality(like most towns). I prefer planeswalkers over elementalists, but to each their own.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted May 21, 2011 11:20 AM |
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Magic University isn't a big deal to me. Most Conflux heroes get offered the magic schools multiple times over the course of a game. To me...the university is pointless unless you need that magic school right now.
And why am I supposed to use a conflux hero as main when I chose flux as starting town?
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heroes_player
Known Hero
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posted May 21, 2011 08:26 PM |
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Something...
I will write my opinions about all towns later... I have played this game for 11 years, now I have played again and I will tell my tactics for all towns
I have only played H3, but have not played other HoMM series. But I think that H3 is the best... I almost bought H4 and H5, but luckily, I had seen some pictures of these games, and they looked terrbile! I almost lost many euros, think
About H3 music, they were really nice to listen.. I remember when played with Tower and I was in a snowland taking resources and mines... very nice days but after playing many years, I listened other music instead 
I have only played alone, but sometimes TCP-IP with friends The reason why I do not play online is that it costs and I have not time to spend over 8 hours to finish one game
I own all expansions, like RoE, AB, SoD but have not tried WoG yet. But I think it is better to not try WoG though too complex.. BTW, I have finished all campaigns RoE's were easy, AB were simple and SoD were hard (I played on 200% )
So, see ya later, be patient so you guys will see my opinions about all towns..
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user_00
Tavern Dweller
Shall we begin?
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posted May 22, 2011 01:17 AM |
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The main conclusion is that conflux is overpowered.Thats all....
Mostly because of lvl7 growth.....
But i dont get it why most of people say that you dont need energy elementals and magma elementals....and dont buy it...
C'mon..EE maybe not best lvl 4 unit...but they are fast...they fly...and do decent damage....
Magma Elementals maybe slow and so...but they are perfect tank units...can take most of the damage...and also o decent damage...perfect so called tanks...
And conflux is not that expensive at all...some other towns are more expensive....
Just my 2 cents....
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