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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: Democracy - Stairway to Heaven or Highway to Hell?
Thread: Democracy - Stairway to Heaven or Highway to Hell? This thread is 4 pages long: 1 2 3 4 · «PREV
TheDeath
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posted April 23, 2008 02:00 PM

100% agree with Mytical on above post, it's exactly my view on the matter.

sorry for off-topic

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If I was dictator, things would be a lot better (IMO).
Hitler said the same thing when he was 16 years old too (I think)

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posted April 23, 2008 02:01 PM

I think everyone's thought that at some point.
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posted April 23, 2008 02:13 PM

Exactly.

Only difference is that some decided to look into the mirror and see what 'freedom' is

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posted April 23, 2008 02:37 PM

also:
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You know, this reminds me of a story that's a favorite of my dad's. Masha (a little girl) and her grandma are sitting at dinner. Masha says, "Grandma, I want some jam." "The jam's on the top shelf," grandma replies. "But, grandma, I don't have any legs," Masha complains. Grandma says, "No legs - no jam."

No legs - no jam.
Very morally wrong IMO.

That could as well be applied to any kind of disease.

Infected people can't live too long (let's suppose). "No clean body - no life".

how does that sound

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posted April 23, 2008 03:24 PM

That sound's like Hitlerism.But is this thread about moral's?

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posted April 23, 2008 04:44 PM

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100% agree with Mytical on above post, it's exactly my view on the matter.

sorry for off-topic

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If I was dictator, things would be a lot better (IMO).
Hitler said the same thing when he was 16 years old too (I think)


Actually, Hitler was willing to become an artist(painter) .
He became interested in politics after WWI, during which he observed, as a soldier, much non-patriotic behaviour (eg. people damaging their arms to be taken to hospital), and after the war he fell under influence of people fond of Nietzche and german superiority ideas.
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posted April 23, 2008 07:51 PM - penalty applied by angelito on 01 Sep 2008.

Sometime Dictatorism is much more better than Democracy

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posted April 23, 2008 07:53 PM

Give us an example....
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posted April 23, 2008 09:19 PM

When democracy fails to govern the state and any other form of government does not.
Such situations are not that imaginary. For example, democracy in almost every allied country was suspended for WWII (with exception of US, but their territory was not much endangered). As the war ended, democracies usually returned(well, commies installed totalitarianism wherever they came, so national authorities had little to decide).
Besides, to be honest, I am quite not fond of democracy, but I agree with Churchill that's probably the best goernment invented, yet it's still crappy.
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posted April 23, 2008 09:47 PM

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Very morally wrong IMO.

That could as well be applied to any kind of disease.

Infected people can't live too long (let's suppose). "No clean body - no life".

how does that sound
It's metaphorical. It shouldn't be taken literally. What it means is if you don't have the means, then you won't have it.

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Actually, Hitler was willing to become an artist(painter)
See? Art is evil . Maybe after World War 3 I'll want to be an artist.

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Such situations are not that imaginary. For example, democracy in almost every allied country was suspended for WWII (with exception of US, but their territory was not much endangered).
Really? Let's see:
US: Not suspended
UK: Not suspended
USSR: Didn't have it before the war, so wasn't suspended
Australia: Not suspended
Canada: Not suspended
New Zeland: Not suspended
France: Conquered, thus not suspended
Denmark: Conquered, thus not suspended
Norway: Conquered, thus not suspended
Poland: Didn't have it before the war, so wasn't suspended
Yugoslavia: Didn't have it before the war, so wasn't suspended
Portugal: Didn't have it before the war, so wasn't suspended
Greece: Didn't have it before the war, so wasn't suspended
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posted April 23, 2008 10:54 PM

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UK: not suspended

As far as I know elections were suspended for the duration of war(as Churchill became prime minister), thus democracy was suspended. Elections took place right after the end of the war.
Otherwise I see no reason for him to stay in office for 5 years AND 2 months .
And french evacuated government (not vichy!) also did not hold elections.
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posted April 24, 2008 01:17 AM

But elections in the UK are different anyway. Parliament has to be dissolved for there to be an election (but there has to be one for at least 5 years). And the parties formed a National Government (if I'm not mistaken) so there wouldn't be any considerable opposition anyway.
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posted April 24, 2008 09:31 AM

Yeah, but for me it is actual suspension of democracy . Just my opinion.
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