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posted November 25, 2008 04:05 PM |
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Yeah, it wasn't meant to be funny and I'm not proud of it. Illness isn't the thing I had in mind, either - I rather meant job or relationship fails, nothing life-threatening. The sight of others failing in life is a relief to me, since at least I know I'm not the only one that does so. I don't like that part of my personality, but I can't really help it. Perhaps if I were successful, I'd be compassionate. Who knows.
I can't recall feeling compassion in my life. Sorry  Nobody's perfect. I may not feel good about someone's bad luck, but it doesn't make me sad, either. It either makes me feel better, or I just ignore it.
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posted November 25, 2008 04:35 PM |
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@bak: Since this was posted on another forum I'll put it here.
Whoever laughs/enjoys this will lose all my respect. (enjoy not as in "I like sad stuff" but as in "wahoo she got pwned by life LOL!" or "LOL she's so slow/handicapped" or some **** like that)
Maybe I should put up a video (no, I don't know if it's available) with starving people. Or maybe, to make it even more diabolic, add a few of guys there who throw apples at them and then shoot them if they are too slow (shoot the apples I mean) and say "HA, too slow, no food for u!"
*sigh*
Ok now I'm trying to figure out how to properly explain the D&D stuff so as to not make this thread off topic (it isn't really 100% off topic though). I'll probably post it soon.
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posted November 25, 2008 04:46 PM |
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I really don't get what's worth laughing for in that vid except the first time she falls. And her walking does look hilarious. 
But there's nothing worth crying over in it either. Is that supposed to be a sad video? 
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posted November 25, 2008 04:53 PM |
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I really don't get what's worth laughing for in that vid except the first time she falls. And her walking does look hilarious.
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But there's nothing worth crying over in it either. Is that supposed to be a sad video?
I don't expect guys (including me) to cry over it of course, I mean cry physically, but I expected people to cry in their hearts/souls at least. guess I was wrong
I'm not really familiar with it (it was just posted somewhere) but I heard it's a japanese drama or something...
and it's not her walking being hilarious at all. is it funny that she can not even walk after some time and later can't even speak properly. Heck even later she won't even be able to speak at all. she can't even dial a phone number later on, and the only thing she did was to write some story (I think about her life, dunno though) and she won't even be able to hold the pen later. (and it's inspired from true story btw)
so yes it's really "funny" that she is walking like that
what would turn me upside down was if the drama actually had people bullying her for that (I'm not even sure if it does I didn't even watch it of course).
I don't get how people can just laugh or find something hilarious just like that -- she wouldn't even do so if YOU were walking like that.
also I was recommended to watch episodes 10 and 11 where her "situation" is bad (until she dies). I don't have time for that and I don't think I would like it either. Not sure if there are subtitled versions but I heard there are so try to search if you're interested in this "hilarious" series.
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posted November 25, 2008 04:55 PM |
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1 litre of tears was sad.
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posted November 25, 2008 04:56 PM |
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You're just too sensitive/compassionate/serious Death.
Of course, I wouldn't wish anything bad to happen to 'innocent' people, but it's still funny when they get 'pwned' (by this I mean, for example, falling from a chair, etc). This doesn't really mean that I'd want that to happen. And any kind of sickness is not even funny actually, at least for me.
And if you're wondering I do wish evil bastards to get 'pwned', but that's another story.
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posted November 25, 2008 04:58 PM |
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Death: She did not fail at anything. She's just ill, handicapped, whatever they call it, there's nothing fun in it, neither joyful.
But it would be if it was a vid about how a girl attempted to get a driver license and failed the 10th time. That would be joyful You fail at life girl, sorry
I am different from most people because most people like to see evil guys, show-offs and bastards fail.. I like to see everybody failing.
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posted November 25, 2008 05:00 PM |
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Of course, I wouldn't wish anything bad to happen to 'innocent' people, but it's still funny when they get 'pwned' (by this I mean, for example, falling from a chair, etc). This doesn't really mean that I'd want that to happen. And any kind of sickness is not even funny actually, at least for me.
No it's not funny unless it's not real/serious (i.e it's made specifically for that like an actor). Or when I hear public laughing for that "acting" it's ok. It's part cf comedy. I don't like it when it is serious or something that actually happened or can happen.
Call me whatever you want. A lot of people here lost a bit of respect from me. I will never be able to bully/laugh/enjoy when someone like the girl in that vid gets "pwned by life" literally. Especially when they are not ***holes. Even more if they wouldn't laugh/bully you if YOU were in that situation. It makes me feel so downgraded as a sentient being to even think people like that can exist.
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And if you're wondering I do wish evil bastards to get 'pwned', but that's another story.
You might consider me weird but usually I don't have problem with ***holes getting pwned. Of course it may not be nice but it's not like I "cry" over it anyway (well not physically and neither "soul"ically for ***holes, but I don't "laugh" either I just enjoy they are done with, not actually feasting on their suffering but considering it "see how it feels like" if he/she was an ***hole of course).
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She did not fail at anything. She's just ill, handicapped, whatever they call it, there's nothing fun in it, neither joyful.
Yes but technically "she was pwned by life" when she realized that.
In fact, I don't find it funny if someone fails the 10th time if he/she wants to get a driver license. Not talking about ***holes of course but about this:
What if you couldn't and you desperately needed it? What if he/she came to help you at that? How would you feel looking in the mirror then when you would laugh at him/her in the same situation?
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posted November 25, 2008 05:03 PM |
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Don't forget there is a difference between feeling good by seeing someone failing (again, I don't mean illness, death or such), and confronting him/her about it (laughing, abusing etc). I never really show any reaction when somebody confesses he/she failed at something. It still feels damn good to hear it, though
And yes, I wouldn't care if somebody expressed it. I am a failure at many points of my life and I don't negate it, neither try to convince anybody who points it out that he's wrong.
Hell, I laugh about it myself.
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posted November 25, 2008 05:03 PM |
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what would turn me upside down was if the drama actually had people bullying her for that
That's the main reason for that I don't think it's sad. Her life is good. Or as good as it can get. Someone even dates her for christs sake. 
Her having a disease isn't funny in itself of course. Just as it isn't sad. It just is. I see people who walk like that everyday. And a lot of other disabled people. Most are much worse since their brains are malfunctioning in different ways. They are mostly good people but still annoy the hell out of me.
But her walking does look hilarious.
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posted November 25, 2008 05:04 PM |
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I am not talking about necessarily what you express outside, but what's inside. I would never be able to be happy when he/she fails if he/she would help me in the same situation.
Sometimes I figure why this world is so ****ed up as if it wasn't already without all these ***holes bullying/laughing at others who get "pwned by life" when they would cry if they were in the same situation. What if he/she then comes and helps you and you look at what you would have done in that situation?
@Joonas: Seems I will never understand you
I can't possibly laugh or consider them 'annoying' in the proper sense.
What if she would do all these things if YOU were in that situation? When you would be walking slow and 'funny' and she would try to help you instead of you laughing at her?
and yes that vid is very sad. Who said that just because she is dating someone it means she is happy? Do you even realize a lot of people would commit suicide when they heard they had such a disease? She tries to be happy but fails miserably.
What if she would say to others "if you think I am annoying please do not take care of me anymore, I don't want to be a burden"? How would you feel in that situation, letting her die like that -- when she CARES about you (i.e she doesn't want to annoy you by being a burden)? Will you enjoy/laugh that she walks slow like that?
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posted November 25, 2008 05:06 PM |
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The vid you posted is somewhat touching indeed. Nothing special though. And unfortunatelly her attempts of walking look very funny  .
And don't be overly compassionate theDeath, it may break you.
As for asheera's test, I am Lawful Neutral, well inclined to Good side. This might be due to the fact that although I do quite much good around me just because I think its the way to go, I am fully capable, and sometimes willing, of doing evil wittingly.
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posted November 25, 2008 05:08 PM |
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I couldn't help but to laugh out loud when my last girlfriend failed her written exam for driver's license by one point.
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posted November 25, 2008 05:10 PM |
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As overly compassionate, TheDeath, you can't really understand someone who is completely not compassionate, in other words me And most likely never will. Feeling good doesn't necessarily mean making fun out of someone, outside or inside. It's more like "I am so happy that I'm not the only frickin fail around here".
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posted November 25, 2008 05:10 PM |
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Sure you did joonas .
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posted November 25, 2008 05:12 PM |
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If you're wondering I got True Neutral from that test some years ago, but I redid it recently and got Chaotic Neutral
@Joonas: That would be funny indeed
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posted November 25, 2008 05:14 PM |
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What about this?
I actually congratulate that guy who went up and told them up front how "devious" and selfish they are for saying out loud how it actually is. It's so easy to talk and laugh at it when you're not experiencing it.
I always expected the internet to be full of trolls and ***holes (literally, I mean the whole internetz) and all kinds of wackos and people who don't deserve (IMO) to be "full in life" rather than "pwned by life" because they laugh at others which get the latter and if the situation was reversed they would be helped by them and would actually WANT to be helped (don't tell me you would like others to laugh at your walking!).
But I have to confess I am slightly disappointed in HC because I thought it was waaaaaay above (it still is a bit) the average forum where you see all those kind of what I call "bad people".
ok sorry if I will not be active here for quite some time. And I can't take that test (though I took another one some time ago, but I got "Neutral Good" or "True Neutral" but the latter is so-so).
I hope you get why
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posted November 25, 2008 05:15 PM |
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Don't tell me you expected everyone to be good, loyal and compassionate here. I won't believe it.
I also don't see anybody laughing at the specified girl. Ok, Joonas said she's walking in a funny way, but that's it. Don't overreact
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posted November 25, 2008 05:15 PM |
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I don't have to tell you people that we aren't dating anymore.
(That time had nothing to do with it actually.  )
You have to take into account theDeath that I live in a place where there are three invalid homes just next to me. So they are nothing special.
And if someone is continuosly shouting "Hello!" to you when you are outside working you'd be annoyed too.
I think you fail to see my point in the walking thing. The disease or her ability to walk isn't funny. But the way she walks looks funny.
Of course I'd never laugh at her face about it. That's be rude. But I still find it funny.
Actually, I'm overly compassionate when it comes to some things but invalids of life aren't one of those. Actually I'd go for Hitler style in that issue.
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posted November 25, 2008 05:17 PM |
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I think you fail to see my point in the walking thing. The disease or her ability to walk isn't funny. But the way she walks looks funny.
Of course I'd never laugh at her face about it. That's be rude. But I still find it funny.
No it is not. When you look at her walking you KNOW she has that disease and it's why she does it, it's not like she wants that. If I even THINK about that (not see her) I get sad because I know why she does so. I can't even look at how "funny" she would otherwise walk because maybe it's completely dwarfed by the KNOWLEDGE I have that she is actually handicapped.
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