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ThunderTitan
ThunderTitan

Tavern Dweller
posted August 24, 2010 09:39 AM

Poll Question:
If they start with 5, they should add 2 per expansion...

Factions i mean. Who's with me?!

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Yay!
Nay!
Expansions should remove factions instead!!! >:)
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danijel1990
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posted August 24, 2010 09:48 AM

Well, I voted yay! But seriously, I doubt they'll add two factions per expansion, maybe they'll release three mini expansions each bringing one faction each..?
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MattII
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posted August 24, 2010 11:14 AM

Voted Yay, I mean they've already told us there are 10 factions, so they should'nt deny us them.

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War-overlord
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posted August 24, 2010 11:29 AM

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Voted Yay, I mean they've already told us there are 10 factions, so they should'nt deny us them.


Hear, hear.
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alcibiades
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posted August 24, 2010 12:06 PM

More factions are always nice. I doubt it'll happen, but maybe they'll give us 1 in the first expansion and then 2 in the second. If we assume factions start out as 2 good, 2 evil and 1 neutral, they could add 1 neutral and then 1 good + 1 evil. 8 factions total was fine in H5 I think.
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Cepheus
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posted August 24, 2010 12:32 PM

I don't think it's an unreasonable expectation, though it'd be worth waiting to see what the H6 template for a faction is. If each faction turns out to be ridiculously complex with tons of replay value...
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Jiriki9
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posted August 24, 2010 12:36 PM

alt least!

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Elvin
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posted August 24, 2010 01:13 PM

TT is that you? Welcome to HC, I'll let them know that their doom is at hand.
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MattII
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posted August 24, 2010 01:28 PM

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TT is that you? Welcome to HC, I'll let them know that their doom is at hand.
Mine isn't 'cause I know he's from CH.

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Danny
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posted August 24, 2010 03:57 PM

To be fair I don't see this happening. For some reason I get the impression they want to stray away from the stuff Nival introduced in the series. Like how most likely Dark Elves are out. Plus if you think about it, adding back Dwarves and Orcs in expansions would be totally rehashing. I believe that's why this is a prequel, so they can explain why some factions would not be as relevant as they were in HOMM5, without having to create a brand new universe. I can see the Naga added in an expansion but not much else.

I don't know how HOMM5 fared financially, but I can easily see HOMM6 being affected by some bad impressions of HOMM5, plus being overshadowed by other kinda games in currently more popular genres. And then there are some of the radical changes that might cause a bad word of mouth among fans, so I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't spend much on expansions. Of course I might be totally wrong, but to me a 6th Heroes is already more than I expected, so it's better to keep expectations low to get positively surprised.

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xerox
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posted August 24, 2010 04:10 PM

doubt that they will add 2 races per expansion

they want to put full focus on one race at the time

naga and faceless should be the expansion races

the faceless already seem to fit into the h6 storyline
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Elvin
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posted August 24, 2010 04:15 PM

Disagree about dark elves and orcs, it's not a matter of copying Nival. These factions are well established in the setting and its lore, they are there whether they are part of the current storyline or not. That's kinda like saying we wouldn't have haven because that would be rehashing of the previous 5 games

H5 actually sold well, quite well. Which is also evident by Ubi's moves thereafter like DM, Clash of heroes - the latter soon to be released in good consoles, heroes kingdoms, the Ubi newsletters ect etc. They know there's money to be made and are steadily establishing the Ashan world. I'd say so far so good, it will all depend on how H6 does.
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Gauldoth_
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posted August 24, 2010 04:31 PM

I can easily find fitting to have Sylvan and Dark elves coming up in the first expansion and having someone like orcs from the beginning (in my mind Wizards are already a fourth faction). By the way I'm still hoping for 6,7 or 8 factions from the very start of H6.
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alcibiades
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posted August 24, 2010 04:39 PM

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H5 actually sold well, quite well. Which is also evident by Ubi's moves thereafter like DM, Clash of heroes - the latter soon to be released in good consoles, heroes kingdoms, the Ubi newsletters ect etc. They know there's money to be made and are steadily establishing the Ashan world. I'd say so far so good, it will all depend on how H6 does.


Yes, didn't they just about say outright that H5 was sort of a testing the waters to see if this was even commercially viable, and then they would continue the series if they got good numbers?
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Cepheus
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posted August 24, 2010 04:44 PM
Edited by Cepheus at 16:44, 24 Aug 2010.

Yeah, I'm not certain but I think it was rumoured that H5 sold two to three million copies overall. Very impressive numbers for a TBS, if they're correct.

There's also an old article where NWC employee explained that Heroes games are always sleeper hits, so if H6 is a solid game and has a lot of longevity, it should easily outsell its predecessor.
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blizzardboy
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posted August 24, 2010 04:48 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 16:48, 24 Aug 2010.

What the hell are 'the faceless'?
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War-overlord
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posted August 24, 2010 05:04 PM

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What the hell are 'the faceless'?


The Faceless were one of the Elder Races. They were the servants and the prime worshippers of the Goddes of Shadow, Malassa. They fought a war against the Angels in the ages before time was recorded. They lost, and the Angels wiped out all but a handfull of them.
Those few that remained taught the Dark Elves the ways of the Shadow Goddes.
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Cepheus
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posted August 24, 2010 05:13 PM

Indeed. I think I have an image of them somewhere. They look more or less like purplish angels with tattered wings and a vengeance.
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blizzardboy
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posted August 24, 2010 05:19 PM

Seems somewhat redundant with Dungeon. If anything they should just be added as a tier 7 creature or some other special creature.
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War-overlord
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posted August 24, 2010 05:20 PM
Edited by War-overlord at 17:22, 24 Aug 2010.

Are you certain? I've never come across such an image. Save for the images Baklava used in his faction of his own make, but those have no lore credibility whatsoever.

@ Blizzard. Yes you are right that Dungeon makes them redundant. But I disagree that they should be a tier 7 creature. They should not be in game at all for players. They should either be the guys who pull the strings in the shadows or they should be a boss.
Mostly because there are only very few left, I doubt there are more than 10 of them.
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