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artu
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posted December 01, 2013 11:40 AM |
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Weed for medical treatment.
For the last couple of years, we see in movies and stuff that weed is now semi-legal in the U.S. I'm too busy to do the google search at the moment but this is not a federal law and only applies to some states as far as I remember. I have some questions about this, especially to people from US.
1- I hear that in US prescriptions are taken very seriously and you cant even get your hands on a regular antibiotic if you dont have the papers for it. And the paper's not easy to get. Is this the case with weed or is the current situation a way of legalizing weed de facto without pissing off the conservatives? Can anybody just get a prescription with pulling the right strings?
2- Do you think this is a step taken to completely legalize weed in the future or is it truly intended for medical purposes.
3- In which states is it legal?
4- (This is especially to Corribus, since he's a chemist and a father). Over the years, I've read in many articles that there is no proven physical addiction caused by weed. It's actually healthier than alcohol and cigarettes etc etc. Yet, even if on a purely psychological level, if you use serious amount of weed on a regular basis, you'll mostly become isolated and a little numb, I've seen it happen many times. So, what is the addiction potential of weed? Can some people "pull it off" just like some are better at drinking or even functioning alcoholics? Do you think everybody should legalize it like in Netherlands?
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posted December 01, 2013 12:27 PM |
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Unbeknown to many, the use of Marijuana for medical purposes is legal in many countries, and, just like in every other country, pulling the right strings will get you a prescription, even if you are healthy like a Yoked Ox (MtG pun intended). Sure, in some places this might be a little more difficult than in others, but, in the end, there is always a way to procure the said recipe. While this is not necessarily a step towards legalizing it, it is certainly a way to make people aware of the plant's medical benefits which, let's face it, are plenty.
About 21 States in America have some sort of law regarding the legality and medical usage of Marijuana. I don't remember exactly which ones.
Edit: here is a wiki about Cannabis and the US of A, legality and whatnot. According to it, 20 states plus District Columbia are delving into it.
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JollyJoker
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posted December 01, 2013 12:47 PM |
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For medical use it's even legal in Germany.
In the Netherlands it's pretty standard medication in connection with chemotherapy.
Criminalizing drug (ab)use is idiotic procedure anyway, not to mention that it's completely arbitrary as well - think about sugar. Obesity is endangering people as well and goes hand in hand with massive risks for your health.
STILL, even advertising is allowed, and you don't see Mars advertisements come with disclaimers or health warnings that you should not eat the junk on a regular basis.
If on the other hand, stuff isn't forbidden because of endangering yourself (you are allowed to do that), but because of the "mind-altering" qualities of substances, you'd have to ask why alcohol would be allowed.
If you also consider that a lot of pain killers are freely available, even though they have somewhat dangerous side effects, especially when used over a longer period, I think, it's fairly obvious that drug poicy in general is a complete and absolute desaster, even if you do NOT consider, how much money is and has been siphoned off into the coffers of drug cartels (and you don't want to think about wwhat they can do with that amount of money).
Same is true for the other vices, of course. As George Carlin said: "Sex is peerfectly legal, selling stuff is perfectly legal, so why is selling sex illegal? There are worse things than giving people an orgasm."
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mvassilev
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posted December 01, 2013 07:23 PM |
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1. I've heard it's easy to get a marijuana prescription, just say you need one, and you get it. It's more difficult for actual prescription medication.
2. I think it's a Trojan horse for full legalization. First, it's legalization for people who can get themselves to a doctor and say they need a prescription. Second, in a few years it'll be possible to point to people who are currently getting medical marijuana and say, "Hey, look, they're using it and they're not raving loonies, let everyone use it!"
3. It's fully legal only in Washington (which produced this hilarious blog post by the Seattle Police Department) and Colorado. Medical marijuana is available in many other states (see map).
4. I think it should be fully legal, but excessive use of it is bad, just like excessive use of alcohol is bad.
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posted December 01, 2013 07:56 PM |
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i for one find the addiction potential not greater than alcohol.
BUT, it should be for 23 years upwards, because the brain growth until then.
Other then that, why not, its better to legalize it, then to forbid it because:
a) the citizen can decide for him self
b) if u legalize it, the black market will dry out soon--> more tax for state
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artu
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posted December 01, 2013 08:01 PM |
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mvassilev said:
(which produced this hilarious blog post by the Seattle Police Department)
The LotR link in the end almost threw me off the chair! Btw, it says "Under state law, officers have to develop probable cause to search a closed or locked container." How come, of all the thousands of trunk search scenes we've seen in Hollywood movies, not even once the driver said "do you have a warrant?"
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friendofgunnar
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posted December 02, 2013 05:01 AM |
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Marijuana made legal today in Washington State
Woooooooooooooooooooo, I am so high right now
     
on coffee ice cream
hah!
psych
seriously, Im'n not used to this much caffeine all at once
:jittery:
anyway, in answer to your question
what was your question?
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The_Gootch
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posted December 02, 2013 08:13 PM |
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Question? Dude, I'm like, whoah man. Cos', you know, it's bullsnow man. What was the big issue with weed in the first place man? It's like, lawmen lookin' to keep their jobs after prohibition, like, got amended away and snow. So yeah, dude, yeah, snow that snow. About time we came to our senses and fixed this snow, you know?
In all seriousness, medical marijuana is the don't ask, don't tell bridge towards full legalization. The real awkwardness is going to happen when we go to the UN and withdraw from the very treaties we pushed on other countries regarding marijuana. Oops!!
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artu
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posted January 23, 2014 07:54 PM |
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xerox
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posted January 23, 2014 11:32 PM |
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yes it will be very interesting to see what happens once the major corporations picks the weed up
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posted January 23, 2014 11:54 PM |
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xerox said:
yes it will be very interesting to see what happens once the major corporations picks the weed up
same thing that happened with cigarettes. it's be weed flavoured paper.
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Blizzardboy
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posted December 04, 2019 07:05 AM |
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The medical uses of marijuana are overstated on the internet. As far as treating mental health it doesn't seem to be a lot different than alcohol: short-term escape in exchange for worse problems in the long-term. Things like electro-convulsive therapy, deep magnetic stimulation, and psychedelic drugs (in the right context and setting) have way more potential.
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Blizzardboy
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posted December 04, 2019 07:09 AM |
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The medical uses of marijuana are overstated on the internet. As far as treating mental health it doesn't seem to be a lot different than alcohol: short-term escape in exchange for worse problems in the long-term. Things like electro-convulsive therapy, deep magnetic stimulation, and psychedelic drugs (in the right context and setting) have way more potential.
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The_Polyglot
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posted December 04, 2019 10:09 PM |
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Heard pot does wonders for chronic pain.
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posted January 13, 2020 11:35 AM |
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JollyJoker said:
For medical use it's even legal in Germany.
In the Netherlands it's pretty standard medication in connection with chemotherapy.
Criminalizing drug (ab)use is idiotic procedure anyway, not to mention that it's completely arbitrary as well - think about sugar. Obesity is endangering people as well and goes hand in hand with massive risks for your health.
STILL, even advertising is allowed, and you don't see Mars advertisements come with disclaimers or health warnings that you should not eat the junk on a regular basis.
If on the other hand, stuff isn't forbidden because of endangering yourself (you are allowed to do that), but because of the "mind-altering" qualities of substances, you'd have to ask why alcohol would be allowed.
If you also consider that a lot of pain killers are freely available, even though they have somewhat dangerous side effects, especially when used over a longer period, I think, it's fairly obvious that drug policy in general is a complete and absolute disaster, even if you do NOT consider, how much money is and has been siphoned off into the coffers of drug cartels (and you don't want to think about what they can do with that amount of money).
Same is true for the other vices, of course. As George Carlin said: "Sex is perfectly legal, selling stuff is perfectly legal, so why is selling sex illegal? There are worse things than giving people an orgasm."
I only not subscribe the word "vices". Sex is never a vice, just ask the only roost in the chicken coop.
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JollyJoker
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posted January 13, 2020 01:13 PM |
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I don't subscribe the word either - it's just called that way legally (think "Miami Vice"), the classical vices being prostitution, drugs and gambling.
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