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Adrius
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posted April 24, 2015 10:21 PM |
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xerox said:
What a socialist article. I think NATO should intervene and put an end to this spread of adolescent communism.
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posted April 24, 2015 10:31 PM |
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Hey Ad, how do you feel about your country being able to pop up such a fine specimen? 
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Adrius
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posted April 24, 2015 11:11 PM |
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Adrius
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posted April 25, 2015 12:08 AM |
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Chesko gives his side of the story on pulling his mods off the workshop
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he's also been in contact with a lawyer from Valve, who clarified that, in accordance with policies outlined yesterday, the mod, and Chesko's other work, will be marked as unpurchasable but will not actually be removed from the Workshop, despite his demand that it all be taken down completely.
"He stated that they will not remove the content unless 'legally compelled to do so,' and that they will make the file visible only to currently paid users," he wrote. "I am beside myself with anger right now as they try to tell me what I can do with my own content. The copyright situation with Art of the Catch is shades of grey, but in Arissa 2.0's case, it's black and white; that's 100% mine and Griefmyst's work, and I should be able to dictate its distribution if I so choose."
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posted April 25, 2015 12:11 AM |
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Salamandre said:
Nowadays, to make a mod (a decent one) you need an respectable number of graphical tools (3DS max at 4000 dollars anyone?), then programming language. Wed know that most people making graphics stole 3DS max from torrents (I did, what else I could do) but in theory, you have to invest a lot of money (beside time), to be able to make good mods.
That brings up another interesting facet. Because a lot of those graphical programs (I know of Photoshop at the very least) make specific license types for people who will use those programs to make money vs. buying them to learn to use it or edit home photos or something. A corporate license vs. a student license for example. Now, they're unlikely to care much if you cracked CS5 or whatever for personal use or for something you're giving out for free. But if you're making actual real money with their product when they aren't getting a cut...this is going to be messy.
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posted April 25, 2015 12:38 AM |
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I'm still amazed that they are now selling licenses. like you bought something, but actually it's not yours, that's so great, you get money and maintain ownership of what you sold 
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posted April 25, 2015 12:45 AM |
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"I am beside myself with anger right now as they try to tell me what I can do with my own content."
Getting ripped off and dictated as to what to do with your own work. I wonder how it feels to take it up the ass in such fashion, lol
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Corribus
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posted April 25, 2015 01:16 AM |
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Edited by Corribus at 01:17, 25 Apr 2015.
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This is an interesting development and I agree with OD, it will be interesting to see where it goes.
I very rarely download or use mods, so this doesn't really directly affect me. However, indirectly I don't really like it. I see it as another step toward the direction gaming companies are taking toward squeezing every dime they can from an ever diminishing core experience. First they had expansion packs. Fine. They were substantial so I didn't mind paying the extra money. Then they introduced DLCs. Mini-expansion packs that often felt like things that should have been in the core game, as though the developers had a core game, then sliced off bits and pieces they could sell you for extra. No thanks. Then they started doing the free-2-play model. Horrid. Obviously gaming companies recognize that modding adds quite a bit onto the lifetime of a computer game, but they weren't reaping anything directly from it. It's a no brainer from the game company's point of view.
Although I'm not a modder per se, I view mapmaking as a kind of modding. I don't know how I would have felt about this back in my prime mapmaking days. I never did it for money, and it just complicates something that was supposed to be a hobby. Making mods payable may also not be attractive to some modders because it will probably limit distribution. Will it result in better mods? Doubtful. Mods seem pretty high quality without the financial incentive... because it hasn't in the past been why modders do this.
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posted April 25, 2015 01:26 AM |
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OmegaDestroyer said:
I wonder how long this scheme will take to extend to other games? I will be unhappy if Civilization: Beyond Earth follows suit since the mods are the only reason I play the game.
yeah game is bad without mods I hope when they do the next civ we don't need mods to make it good
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posted April 25, 2015 08:24 AM |
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Rinveron said:
OmegaDestroyer said:
I wonder how long this scheme will take to extend to other games? I will be unhappy if Civilization: Beyond Earth follows suit since the mods are the only reason I play the game.
yeah game is bad without mods I hope when they do the next civ we don't need mods to make it good
Even if it did and had such a system, I don't think there is much to worry about since the civ modding community...well, their mentality is a lot different
EDIT: Also, in other news, as people feared, SkyUI will have a next version paywalled in the workshop
Granted, the developer of that practically destroyed his reputation overnight so gg I guess
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Adrius
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posted April 25, 2015 09:33 AM |
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A mod, for those that aren't that into Skyrim modding, is required by pretty much any mod that has customizable options due to its "mod configuration menu". It's in every modded Skyrim player's loadorder.
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posted April 25, 2015 09:39 AM |
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Well, after all this I think I'll just skip buying Skyrim altogether. Had it on my wishlist and the 75% discount was tempting, but the paid mods part was a real turn off.
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posted April 25, 2015 09:43 AM |
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don't they realise though they will only lose money? seems strange for a game as old as skyrim to have to pay for mods after all this time
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posted April 25, 2015 09:45 AM |
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In all likeliness this is a test for paid-only-mods for Elder Scrolls 6 and Fallout 4
Which, yknow, with paywalled mods, will just be giant flaccid flops
Because Bethesda likes to snow on their own butter 
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posted April 25, 2015 09:48 AM |
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they will only make more people download them of the internet meaning they need to do something to stop that. the internet will just rocket with mods for free but of course they will be illegal
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posted April 25, 2015 10:24 AM |
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posted April 25, 2015 10:34 AM |
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Darkshadow said:
Rinveron said:
OmegaDestroyer said:
I wonder how long this scheme will take to extend to other games? I will be unhappy if Civilization: Beyond Earth follows suit since the mods are the only reason I play the game.
yeah game is bad without mods I hope when they do the next civ we don't need mods to make it good
Even if it did and had such a system, I don't think there is much to worry about since the civ modding community...well, their mentality is a lot different
EDIT: Also, in other news, as people feared, SkyUI will have a next version paywalled in the workshop
Granted, the developer of that practically destroyed his reputation overnight so gg I guess
Well, people can say goodbye to my mod being configurable, say hello to all my new features whether you like it or not!
(Granted that considering it's a one man project and I tend to go in long tangents it will probably released in three years...)
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posted April 25, 2015 11:37 AM |
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Neraus said:
Darkshadow said:
Rinveron said:
OmegaDestroyer said:
I wonder how long this scheme will take to extend to other games? I will be unhappy if Civilization: Beyond Earth follows suit since the mods are the only reason I play the game.
yeah game is bad without mods I hope when they do the next civ we don't need mods to make it good
Even if it did and had such a system, I don't think there is much to worry about since the civ modding community...well, their mentality is a lot different
EDIT: Also, in other news, as people feared, SkyUI will have a next version paywalled in the workshop
Granted, the developer of that practically destroyed his reputation overnight so gg I guess
Well, people can say goodbye to my mod being configurable, say hello to all my new features whether you like it or not!
(Granted that considering it's a one man project and I tend to go in long tangents it will probably released in three years...)
MCM will still be updated for free, so that's something atleast
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posted April 25, 2015 01:17 PM |
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Adrius said:
A mod, for those that aren't that into Skyrim modding, is required by pretty much any mod that has customizable options due to its "mod configuration menu". It's in every modded Skyrim player's loadorder.
It's not in mine. (And for the record, it wasn't before this fiasco either. I just don't like using mods that need other mods to work. Guess I'm just not a die-hard mod user. )
Darkshadow said:
In all likeliness this is a test for paid-only-mods for Elder Scrolls 6 and Fallout 4
Which, yknow, with paywalled mods, will just be giant flaccid flops
That is probably one of their goals. They're testing it with Skyrim because it IS old, so most of the people willing to buy it have already done so.
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(Granted that considering it's a one man project and I tend to go in long tangents it will probably released in three years...)
I'm like that too. XD Of course now it's going to be harder to find tutorials, because people aren't going to want to help their competition, and I can't run ideas past anyone without risking them stealing it for money... 
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posted April 25, 2015 01:27 PM |
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I guess one way to look at it is to close up to maximize profit..
But weren't you modding in the first place due to other reasons than money and won't money then just be a potential added bonus, like a kind of 'thank you for your hard work, effort and time'?
Beside, I think it'll be easier to get profit by having more knowledge, hence it'd make more sense for everyone to still share their ideas, so that everyone has an easier time creating what they are aiming for.
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Now someone go sell it on steam for the original price of Skyrim!
