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The_Green_Drag
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posted July 07, 2015 09:39 PM |
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Elvin said:
I kind of like the walker core in necro but.. they are all so goddamn boring. Skelie no abilities, ghost cannot be flanked(whatever) and spider is a tough walker poisoner. So Godawful.
Boring core, yes. But their elite is unlike any other. No walker, Not one melee walker, its going to be fun to play with an elite tier that is actually different from the rest. Next time they should try no elite shooter, but baby steps.
Besides, if they had a shooting core then necro could be too strong cause of not enough casualties in the early game.
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alexine
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posted July 07, 2015 10:46 PM |
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The_Green_Drag said:
Death spider wasn't ranged when I played the stronghold demo and I hope it stays that way. I'm sick of the same pattern of cores and elites. Flier, walker, shooter. Or walker, walker, shooter for elites 
And wow, mino is the top elite? I figured they would just be strong but medusa should be the top. I bet the manticore would have been the top elite....Hope you face voters are happy.
Anyone know whether the wyvern or basilisk rider is strongholds top elite?
I agree it is good at least one faction dont have shooter on core spot.
Minotaur must be the strongest elite because as all other best elites it is melee walker. So yes in stronghold, basilisks will be the strongest elite. But actually necropolis will have probably a flier as the best elite because they have no melee unit in core 
But that leaves the question what is the best core in sylvan ? Are archers going to break the rule of melee best cores ? I doubt it because from what they showed, the dryad has 2 abilities so.. it will be probably strongest.
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Minastir
Promising
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posted July 07, 2015 11:06 PM |
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Edited by Minastir at 23:06, 07 Jul 2015.
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lordgraa said:
Minastir said:
If somebody knows how to record in-game music I could record Dungeon theme but I don't know how
Try this: Bandi Cam
Its for video/screens but well you get the music as well  Its small and intuitive program and its for free.
I hope Dungeon theme is good one
Thanks! It worked, I have made video with Dungeon theme, I didn't knew where to end it because faction theme always plays in loop and in dungeon theme it's not obvious where it ends, usually in HVII theme is 2:30-3:00 minutes long so I have recorded about 3:20
I'm going to upload it somewhere now 
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The_green_drag
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posted July 07, 2015 11:21 PM |
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alexine said:
The_Green_Drag said:
Death spider wasn't ranged when I played the stronghold demo and I hope it stays that way. I'm sick of the same pattern of cores and elites. Flier, walker, shooter. Or walker, walker, shooter for elites
And wow, mino is the top elite? I figured they would just be strong but medusa should be the top. I bet the manticore would have been the top elite....Hope you face voters are happy.
Anyone know whether the wyvern or basilisk rider is strongholds top elite?
I agree it is good at least one faction dont have shooter on core spot.
Minotaur must be the strongest elite because as all other best elites it is melee walker. So yes in stronghold, basilisks will be the strongest elite. But actually necropolis will have probably a flier as the best elite because they have no melee unit in core
But that leaves the question what is the best core in sylvan ? Are archers going to break the rule of melee best cores ? I doubt it because from what they showed, the dryad has 2 abilities so.. it will be probably strongest.
Leave it to Ubisoft to make a good change and then make it completely pointless. Having only three tiers suck because it makes all the units really similar because they don't know how to balance. So then they make 'stronger' units of two of the tiers and make the same kind of unit in that strong spot for all the factions. A pointless change if they're not distributing the strong spot amongst walkers, shooters, and fliers.
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Wellplay
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Poland Stronk
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posted July 07, 2015 11:23 PM |
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The_green_drag said:
alexine said:
The_Green_Drag said:
Death spider wasn't ranged when I played the stronghold demo and I hope it stays that way. I'm sick of the same pattern of cores and elites. Flier, walker, shooter. Or walker, walker, shooter for elites
And wow, mino is the top elite? I figured they would just be strong but medusa should be the top. I bet the manticore would have been the top elite....Hope you face voters are happy.
Anyone know whether the wyvern or basilisk rider is strongholds top elite?
I agree it is good at least one faction dont have shooter on core spot.
Minotaur must be the strongest elite because as all other best elites it is melee walker. So yes in stronghold, basilisks will be the strongest elite. But actually necropolis will have probably a flier as the best elite because they have no melee unit in core
But that leaves the question what is the best core in sylvan ? Are archers going to break the rule of melee best cores ? I doubt it because from what they showed, the dryad has 2 abilities so.. it will be probably strongest.
Leave it to Ubisoft to make a good change and then make it completely pointless. Having only three tiers suck because it makes all the units really similar because they don't know how to balance. So then they make 'stronger' units of two of the tiers and make the same kind of unit in that strong spot for all the factions. A pointless change if they're not distributing the strong spot amongst walkers, shooters, and fliers.
Minastir pictures show that Hunter/Master Hunter is the strongest core.
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted July 07, 2015 11:30 PM |
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The_Green_Drag said:
Boring core, yes. But their elite is unlike any other. No walker, Not one melee walker, its going to be fun to play with an elite tier that is actually different from the rest. Next time they should try no elite shooter, but baby steps.
Besides, if they had a shooting core then necro could be too strong cause of not enough casualties in the early game.
It's not just about them being melee. I don't much care about the skeletons since they get that necromancy ability that hurts melee attackers with acid damage but the rest? Spiders could be leapers, have a web immobilizing ability or an added chance to paralyze. Ghosts could have a chance to evade part of the physical damage, demoralize or otherwise curse enemies. And those are just lazy abilities I came up with in a second or two.
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Minastir
Promising
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posted July 07, 2015 11:32 PM |
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Edited by Minastir at 23:33, 07 Jul 2015.
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articun
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As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted July 07, 2015 11:43 PM |
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Is it just me or does this eerie theme fit better for Necropolis rather than Dark Elves
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dark-whisperer
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Darkness feels no mercy
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posted July 07, 2015 11:57 PM |
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^^ This!
I had this mental image of two ghosts playing waltz in some decrepit ball hall...
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The_Green_Drag
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posted July 08, 2015 05:03 AM |
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Elvin said:
The_Green_Drag said:
Boring core, yes. But their elite is unlike any other. No walker, Not one melee walker, its going to be fun to play with an elite tier that is actually different from the rest. Next time they should try no elite shooter, but baby steps.
Besides, if they had a shooting core then necro could be too strong cause of not enough casualties in the early game.
It's not just about them being melee. I don't much care about the skeletons since they get that necromancy ability that hurts melee attackers with acid damage but the rest? Spiders could be leapers, have a web immobilizing ability or an added chance to paralyze. Ghosts could have a chance to evade part of the physical damage, demoralize or otherwise curse enemies. And those are just lazy abilities I came up with in a second or two.
They could have been better, yes. I do like passive's though for the low tier units so they do not become so powerful in the late game. And since ghosts get raised by necromancy i'd rather them be on the weaker side.
But this just adds to the fact that many units have crappy abilities. Something unique to the ghost would be better than what it has now. Just not the evade passive like in H5, i hated that. some kind of web ability would have been nice though.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted July 08, 2015 06:55 AM |
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articun said:
Is it just me or does this eerie theme fit better for Necropolis rather than Dark Elves
It sounds a bit eerie yes but the mental image I got was Tuidhana wandering a dark cave and stumbling upon a Faceless.
It sounded like the dark elves' story to me.
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted July 08, 2015 10:09 AM |
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PS why would the hunter be anywhere else but the top of his tier? Anything less would be heresy.
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Wellplay
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Poland Stronk
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posted July 08, 2015 10:33 AM |
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Edited by Wellplay at 10:34, 08 Jul 2015.
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Elvin said:
PS why would the hunter be anywhere else but the top of his tier? Anything less would be heresy.
You never know what people will invent. 
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Elvin
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posted July 08, 2015 10:35 AM |
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Well, there is always room for one more spider.
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Minastir
Promising
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posted July 08, 2015 12:31 PM |
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Edited by Minastir at 12:37, 08 Jul 2015.
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About the Dungeon theme, yes it could also be necropolis theme but I like it for Dungeon it's mysterious and eerie and fits faction that lives underground
PS: if somebody wants I make screenshots showing dungeon creatures abilities
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Wellplay
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Poland Stronk
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posted July 08, 2015 12:53 PM |
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Minastir said:
About the Dungeon theme, yes it could also be necropolis theme but I like it for Dungeon it's mysterious and eerie and fits faction that lives underground
PS: if somebody wants I make screenshots showing dungeon creatures abilities
If you can go ahead.
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Minastir
Promising
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posted July 08, 2015 01:35 PM |
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Edited by Minastir at 13:35, 08 Jul 2015.
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ChrisD1
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posted July 08, 2015 03:14 PM |
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thank you so much for that man!
so..the soulless has the ability "heart of darkness".. and it is a construct  teeheeheehee
and the medusa sorceress(?!?!?!?!?)... it literally hurts my brain that a priestess gave up sanctuary and priesthood and went all mobile shooter in our faces..
imagine seeing the druid as a might shooter in another faction...
the "new fans" who got hyped about the blade dancer and helped the logical choice win, are the same ones who got hyped about the medusa, not knowing the proper ashan lore for those creatures. so I won't blame the "oldfans". but it's still very funny she is a sorceress with a bow and might attack! hahahahaha!
I'm so waiting for that dungeon thread
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Wellplay
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Poland Stronk
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posted July 08, 2015 03:19 PM |
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ChrisD1 said:
thank you so much for that man!
so..the soulless has the ability "heart of darkness".. and it is a construct teeheeheehee
and the medusa sorceress(?!?!?!?!?)... it literally hurts my brain that a priestess gave up sanctuary and priesthood and went all mobile shooter in our faces..
imagine seeing the druid as a might shooter in another faction...
the "new fans" who got hyped about the blade dancer and helped the logical choice win, are the same ones who got hyped about the medusa, not knowing the proper ashan lore for those creatures. so I won't blame the "oldfans". but it's still very funny she is a sorceress with a bow and might attack! hahahahaha!
I'm so waiting for that dungeon thread
I just wanted medusa, so what name she has does not bother me at all. 
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Minastir
Promising
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posted July 08, 2015 03:38 PM |
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ChrisD1 said:
thank you so much for that man!
so..the soulless has the ability "heart of darkness".. and it is a construct teeheeheehee
and the medusa sorceress(?!?!?!?!?)... it literally hurts my brain that a priestess gave up sanctuary and priesthood and went all mobile shooter in our faces..
imagine seeing the druid as a might shooter in another faction...
the "new fans" who got hyped about the blade dancer and helped the logical choice win, are the same ones who got hyped about the medusa, not knowing the proper ashan lore for those creatures. so I won't blame the "oldfans". but it's still very funny she is a sorceress with a bow and might attack! hahahahaha!
I'm so waiting for that dungeon thread
The fact that the upgrade will be sorceress we knew from the begining, I mean it was in the line-up voting article
and she doesn't have might attack she has dark magic attack and we don't know about the bow, it's just icon
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