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NimoStar
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posted May 18, 2021 09:46 AM |
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Poll Question:
Worst game in Heroes main series?
Obviously, mobile spinoff and such trash don't count, or they would easily win. Only numbered games in the main Heroes TBS series.
There is an splendid debate to be had,
so tell us, which is the worst Heroes game in history, and why?
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Galaad
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posted May 18, 2021 09:48 AM |
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The worst is H7, because it's basically a H6 2.0 that tried to pass off as a "best-of". A horrible Frankenstein full of incompatible features.
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Phoenix4ever
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posted May 18, 2021 09:53 AM |
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Never played 1, 6 or 7, but I have'nt heard much good about 6 or 7. (I have'nt voted though.)
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NimoStar
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posted May 18, 2021 10:19 AM |
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Edited by NimoStar at 10:19, 18 May 2021.
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I voted VII due to the numerous game breaking bugs that have been reported, some of them that can't even be solved by the community patches. And that it constantly desyncs multiplayer games.
Basically it seems to have been a beta at best, or even an alpha. Even with the publisher knowing this, support was pulled almost instantly after release of the (just as bugged) expansion.
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Galaad
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posted May 18, 2021 11:31 AM |
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Lol, it looks like someone misinterpreted the poll and thought it was asking for the best one. 
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zydar
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posted May 18, 2021 02:09 PM |
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Never played 6,7 but iam confident
all HoMM games under Ubi are worse than NWC
So remove 1-4
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Drakon-Deus
Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
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posted May 18, 2021 03:03 PM |
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Never played VII so I'll go with V. A huge disappointment for me at the time of release and even though it has some good gameplay features I still find it incredibly unappealing.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted May 18, 2021 03:18 PM |
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 18, 2021 03:47 PM |
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The_Green_Drag
Supreme Hero
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posted May 18, 2021 03:58 PM |
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Heroes VI for me. It’s the one that bores me the quickest. VII at least has better factions.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted May 18, 2021 04:07 PM |
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I haven't played H6 and H7 due to old machine. But I wanted to know popular series, so I watched mapmakers sent amount, players downloaded amount, twitchers showed game, etc Result: 1.) H3 in Complete, WoG/ERA, HotA, Mods 2.) H4 in Complete, Mods 3.) H5,5 4.) H5. 5.) -Notice! A old result, when H7 wasn't. And 5.) - because of H2 maps sent already ago, so H6, but I don't marked. Another reason I took a time was H3-H5. My bro was before 36yo now, so I also asked him. Said H3 and H4 are the best, and other are snow, esp. H5. But he doesn't play with machine now but console now.
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yasmiel
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Former Chessmaster
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posted May 18, 2021 04:39 PM |
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It was hard call between 6 and 7. 7 is obviously made with much lower budget than 6 and it shows. On the other hand, 6 really doesn't play much as heroes game (even moreso than 4).
Decided for 6 in the end.
Which is shame, especially considering it follows 5, imo the best game in the series.
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thGryphn
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posted May 18, 2021 08:45 PM |
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Edited by thGryphn at 20:50, 18 May 2021.
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VI shares the same pitfall with IV: too many changes in one iteration.
VII also shares the same pitfall with IV: leaving a game incomplete, but this time with no good reason.
VI should never have happened. VII should have been VI, but polished until it shined.
Edit: Worst is VII, hands-down. So many bugs and so incomplete that it remains the only iteration I could not bring myself to complete its original campaigns, nor play a single standalone map. VI was totally playable and enjoyable, despite the fact that I did not like where it took the game.
Edit 2: Also, story-wise, VII is the worst of all too. Not engaging at all.
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NimoStar
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posted May 18, 2021 09:48 PM |
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Heroes IV better than Heroes III confirmed 
Now seriously, Heroes 3 was artistically perfect while Heroes 4 was flawed due to early 3D renders akwardness.
Heroes 4 also had some simplified gameplay elements which don't suit well.
However, on the other hand, default H3 was INSANELY unbalanced.
Like seriously, Necropolis owning everyone
And then, the expansions
Devs:
"What do you think about necromancy?"
"Not strong enough, needs to raise liches instead of skeletons. And keep it banned for all other factions."
"Hell yeah"
"Eh, while we are at it, make the artifact assemblable out of easy pieces you can get from artifact merchant"
"You bet!"
"And for the new faction?"
"Hm, it's mostly recycled creatures, so what if we compensate it by making it hillariously overpowered"
"Sounds great, I'm in"
"What do we do about Eagle Eye and Mysticism? "
"What do you mean what do we do, those are the best skills already!"
"Nevermind you are right, that's why we gave eagle eye specialty to like half of the heroes, it rocks!"
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Phoenix4ever
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posted May 18, 2021 10:43 PM |
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Well Heroes 3 was never a balanced game, still the best game in the series though.
5 was also alright.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted May 18, 2021 11:11 PM |
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I think H2 was even more unbalanced than H3. 
Also H4 should shut up about balance, the only game which allowed me to solo entire maps with no army. 
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NimoStar
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posted May 18, 2021 11:31 PM |
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Edited by NimoStar at 23:33, 18 May 2021.
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the only game which allowed me to solo entire maps with no army.
That isn't unbalanced at all though, that's just an RPG element and doesn't change the multiplayer balance (your enemies will have army in multiplayer so you can't face them with only hero, because they will have a hero just a powerful + creature stacks and you will lose). Would you say Might and Magic is unbalanced because you can solo with no army? I don't think so. Factions, artifacts, and skills in H4 were more balanced than H3 and this is fact.
But I admit H3 looks prettier and like it has more "soul", personality and style (which was suppossed to be corrected for NWC Heroes 5). That can yet be fixed for H4 fortunately though...
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Galaad
Hero of Order
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posted May 18, 2021 11:38 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 23:40, 18 May 2021.
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Yeah I was baiting there.
The RPG element being so strong is probably what bothers me the most in H4. Lack of upgrades also... I do find superior the magic and skill systems. About the atmosphere, I do think the adventure map from H4 is pretty gorgeous.
Edit: I do remember a few broken things though... weren't the Vampires in H4 completely bonkers?
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NimoStar
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posted May 19, 2021 11:04 AM |
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They are a bit powerful, yes, but as usual what makes it OP is that you can use the Undead Transformer to turn max level creatures fromother towns into vampires. You can also get free vampires with Grandmaster Necromancy. Some things never change, lol (though it bears mention necromancy in H4 is heavily limited, as you can only raise a few creatures per combat no matter how large is the oppossing stack)
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MattII
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posted May 19, 2021 02:07 PM |
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Heroes being solo power-houses is unfortunately a necessity for having them on the battlefield, otherwise they'd just get crushed in the late-game, which would badly affect your army's performance.
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