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fred79
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posted November 21, 2021 11:46 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 23:54, 21 Nov 2021.
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i think you've watched too many movies, and are strictly motivated by anti-american hatred. which, in case you didn't know, is primarily created and stoked by globalist-run politicians and their media(which is a worldwide thing). or, in political terms, left-wing media.
bush and his father were both globalist puppets. same as the clintons, same as obama, same as every president going back before i was born. trump was just a dipsnow who thought he was doing the right thing, but in the end, they corrupted him too. judging from the outcome of his presidency, i am inclined to believe he might have been with them all along; but i'm not sure.
if you think back to when the iraq/afghanistan war started, here in the states, you were called "unamerican" if you were against the war. the right-wing media, the government, and our military pushed this belief then. they used the right's patriotism against it's own people, for the benefit of the globalists(same as they did with bush sr and the kuwait conflict). and now they're back to doing the same thing with the left. they use both sides, using their weaknesses against them to do their bidding.
thing is, people are waking up to that fact. there are millions of people, who believe this is strictly a left-wing problem; but i believe that, eventually, they will come to understand the truth: that both sides are being played against one another. and once they find out who's responsible, it'll be end-game for the globalists.
i believe the United States will come to that conclusion first, which is why they're pushing for division so hard now. which is why cnn is claiming that "white people are dangerous", right out in the open. the globalists' anti-white campaign is blatant, now. once people understand WHO'S playing them, those vermin are going to face real consequences.
but that's only IF people pull their heads out of their ass, and understand WHO'S behind this snow.
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Kayna
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posted November 21, 2021 11:51 PM |
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I don't "hate" America. I dislike it, yes, but hatred is a strong word. We're all just individuals born in a world that already exists with it's sets of local social constructs. And to survive, we have to behave like the people around us.
Whether someone is born in the US and ends up pro gun, or is born in Canada and ends up ultra liberal, or is born in Africa and ends up blowing air into the anus of a cow because their farmer parents taught him that it increases the production of milk, to me, it's all the same, just various forms of boot licking because it's either that or you become a loser at a much higher rate.
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fred79
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posted November 21, 2021 11:55 PM |
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i expanded on my post, above.
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Kayna
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posted November 21, 2021 11:59 PM |
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Edited by Kayna at 00:00, 22 Nov 2021.
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Where do you get this "globalist" from, is it some way to cope with all the deaths created by the American government? If the globalists did it, the USA wasn't at fault, so everyone's conscience can be at peace?
You don't have to create a whole new group just for that, you can just detach yourself from the American government. You are only an individual, whatever others do is no fault of yours.
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fred79
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posted November 22, 2021 01:15 AM |
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you aren't able to see patterns, apparently. you come off as a linear thinker, so it makes sense.
the patterns are there. the evidence is there(blatantly everywhere, in fact), that explains the patterns. the people pushing this snow are beyond rich, and they have names. they're not some made-up boogeyman, they are factual players on a world stage based in OUR WORLD. they've even STATED what their goals are, ffs. all of the information i have, is out in the open; it isn't even buried in secrecy.
and if this latest WORLDWIDE push for a "vaccine" regarding something that isn't even dangerous to most people hasn't given you pause to wonder why, then you're NOT thinking.
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Kayna
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posted November 22, 2021 01:34 AM |
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Of course the Euro governments got their own little plots. That doesn't mean it's always their fault and the US government got their hands clean.
Look at other countries. Many don't have open carry laws and they do just fine.
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fred79
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posted November 22, 2021 01:43 AM |
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you're thinking much too small. you sound like you've watched t.v. your entire life, and your entire worldview is based off of what has been televised, as reported.
you need to expand your knowledge. what little you expose yourself to, will not allow you to understand what i am pointing out. it will keep you from grasping what has been happening for decades, that is deliberately designed to not only placate you, but to make you feel you have no choice.
the whole "it is what it is" way of thinking. that's not how snow gets changed for the better. that's how you give others control over you.
you have literally and PURPOSEFULLY been conditioned to think that people like myself, are tin-foil hat nutjobs.
i want you, as an exercise, to just IMAGINE that that's true. ok, if it's true, WHY do they tell you that? what benefit can YOU get from believing it? what benefit can THEY get from you believing that?
now, weigh the benefit, between yours, and theirs. which one benefits more from having that belief?
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Kayna
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posted November 22, 2021 02:21 AM |
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I didn't say you were a nut job. I said you avoid blaming America in any way by blaming other parties like globalists and such. Look. I said Kyle's shooting was indeed in self defense, legally speaking, even if I have liberal tendencies. It wasn't so hard. I'm fine. Now, your turn. Try it.
Say it aloud at home first. Practice. "America has a gun obsession problem."
You'll be fine, I promise.
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fred79
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posted November 22, 2021 02:51 AM |
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Edited by fred79 at 02:54, 22 Nov 2021.
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i didn't say you called me one. i said people like you are trained to think of me as one.
i don't avoid blaming anyone for anything; i place the blame where it belongs.
i want you to say this:
"i don't understand the United States of America and what it stands for. i don't understand the reasoning behind giving power to citizens to control their own destiny, to prevent tyrants from ruling over them, or to protect themselves from those who would do them harm."
you claim that kyle was right to defend himself legally, then you claim that the U.S. has an obsession with firearms.
just WHY do you think people here even HAVE firearms? if you agree with ghost and celfious, that people just want to murder others and guns make it easy, then you're missing the other half of that picture:
that people want to DEFEND themselves from people with guns, who want to murder others. AND that we cannot count on cops or our government, to protect us. because they have proven to, for the most part, either NOT CARE, or to be invested in their OWN safety, or to be ACTIVELY pitting the populace against one another to retain their own power. which is why the U.S. has so many TRAFFIC cops near SAFER areas, but next to NONE who actively patrol violent areas where crime typically takes place.
as AMERICANS, we have a DUTY to PROTECT OURSELVES; and we KNOW that nobody but WE can, or will, do that, respectively.
cops are jackboot thugs working for a corrupted globalist-bought government, and the leftists have largely been weaponized to violently ATTACK dissent.
we only HAVE each other to depend on. and you can't depend on someone, if they're not ARMED and willing to defend, against those who would KILL you.
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Titanfall2020
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posted November 22, 2021 02:53 AM |
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Kayna said:
I didn't say you were a nut job. I said you avoid blaming America in any way by blaming other parties like globalists and such. Look. I said Kyle's shooting was indeed in self defense, legally speaking, even if I have liberal tendencies. It wasn't so hard. I'm fine. Now, your turn. Try it.
Say it aloud at home first. Practice. "America has a gun obsession problem."
You'll be fine, I promise.
Kayna's posts are full of paper thin politics, with no nuance or understanding of the topic.
"America is gun obsessed" is a worthless statement. Not quite as worthless as the "social constructs" statement. I won't bother explaining to you why, as you seem to be a staunch bigot with no interest in understanding. Buzzwords and slogans are as deep as your politics go, no matter how ill-thought out they are.
I think the best way to discuss with these people is one thing at a time. They obviously and self admittedly don't know anything about the case. They are talking to a caricature of us about some "sOcIaL cOnStRuCt" they would like to dismantle, and we are discussing facts. But the facts themselves have the power to change minds, and are able to stand for themselves. Just doesn't pay to overwhelm them, as their cognitive dissonance is triggered and they go into defense mode.
For starters, Kyle Rittenhouse, who wanted to be a nurse/firefighter/cop was carrying a medical kit and gave aid to two rioters that evening.
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fred79
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posted November 22, 2021 02:57 AM |
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i know, i'm not a good teacher. i tend to attempt to forcefeed what i think should be obvious, and i don't really have the patience for breaking snow down at a kindergarten level anymore.
but i'm still trying. years later. 
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Kayna
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posted November 22, 2021 03:07 AM |
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Kyle was carrying both a medkit and a gun. He might have one of these "playing god" personalities.
I do not need to analyze what "America stands for", it really is just a social construct. A group that already exists, in which most joins to increase their rate of survival. The actual mentality comes second. Analyzing what "America stands for" isn't any different than analyzing what other local tribes do, like dancing around a camp fire every weekend evening as some kind of ritual.
Guns are both their own problems and solution. The solution to defend yourself against people with guns is to get a gun yourself, but the problem is created by the sheer quantity of guns to begin with. There are plenty of countries that did not end with tyrants ruling over them and they don't have open carry laws either.
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Titanfall2020
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posted November 22, 2021 03:19 AM |
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Kayna said:
Kyle was carrying both a medkit and a gun. He might have one of these "playing god" personalities.
I do not need to analyze what "America stands for", it really is just a social construct. A group that already exists, in which most joins to increase their rate of survival. The actual mentality comes second. Analyzing what "America stands for" isn't any different than analyzing what other local tribes do, like dancing around a camp fire every weekend evening as some kind of ritual.
Guns are both their own problems and solution. The solution to defend yourself against people with guns is to get a gun yourself, but the problem is created by the sheer quantity of guns to begin with. There are plenty of countries that did not end with tyrants ruling over them and they don't have open carry laws either.
Or he might have wanted to defend both the property he was asked to, and ensure he was prepared to heal anyone that had gotten injured in this third night of violent riots (Which was months into violent nation-wide left wing riots, in which dozens of videos of rioters beating innocents almost to death went viral).
Ignoring the high-minded and utterly worthless drivel about "sOcIaL cOnStRuCtS", my second point is: Gaige Grosskreutz wielded a pistol, and pointed it at Rittenhouse before Rittenhouse shot him in self defense. What do you make of that.
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Kayna
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posted November 22, 2021 03:26 AM |
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Playing god is precisely that, doing both good and bad things. One day you help someone, the next you hurt someone. Having a medkit to "help " people is part of what makes someone have a "playing god" personality. Kyle can defend himself if someone points a gun at him. I didn't question the shot themselves, I questioned Kyle's hidden mechanisms in the back of his head when he decided to go over there with his rifle.
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fred79
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posted November 22, 2021 03:41 AM |
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"when he decided to go over there with his rifle"
how can you think you can have a valid opinion when you don't even know the details of the case?
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Kayna
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posted November 22, 2021 03:48 AM |
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I'm sorry, he was hired to do so, that automatically clears him of any wrongdoing.
"I was just doing my job"
Man, if there's one lesson to be learned from this, it's that the way to hell is paved with good intentions. Kyle had good intentions, the other guys on rooftops with guns had good intentions, the protesters had good intentions, the 3 guys shot by Kyle had good intentions, and among all that group, a handful dares to question what having good intentions can really bring.
"I have good intentions, how could I possibly be wrong?"
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fred79
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posted November 22, 2021 03:59 AM |
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the three guys, who all had criminal records, attacking someone during a riot where property is damaged and burning, that they're a part of...
vs a kid who...
was documented being peaceful, cleaning graffiti earlier in the day, helping hurt rioters, and protecting property.
there is documented evidence of all of this, and yet, you come to that conclusion.
clearly, you don't have the ability to tell right from wrong.
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Kayna
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posted November 22, 2021 04:04 AM |
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I'm sorry Fred, I don't understand snow.
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fred79
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posted November 22, 2021 04:41 AM |
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what is the point of your posts? to display how much you don't know? or to try to understand, and spread understanding so that people can come together?
i really don't get how someone can see obvious aggressors, as the victims, here. do you feel before you think, or do you confuse feeling with thinking?
i understand there was an unnecessary loss of life. unnecessary because, those people didn't have to be there. NONE of them. it was through the actions of the media, that those rioters were even there. and it was through the actions of those rioters, that people like rittenhouse were called to help protect a business.
you tell me that globalists don't exist, and i can understand your belief of that. the only reason someone COULD believe that, is because their sources of information are limited.
but, that's no excuse why you SHOULDN'T want to inform yourself. if there are other people out there, millions in fact, who have a different understanding of things, consider WHY they have a different understanding of things. look at THEIR sources of information.
the facts are easy to find. the facts are easy to use to complete the whole picture as to what is going on. there is NO EXCUSE, when you have the internet at your fingertips, to just take what the msm says VERBATIM, and believe that they're giving you the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
WHY do i have to explain this to supposed ADULTS?
by letting people manipulate you, you are going to LOSE. the lives lost during the riot, were lost because they LISTENED to the people who want to destroy them. to USE them to achieve THEIR goals.
even IF those 3 weren't ALREADY criminals with a criminal mindset, by listening to the people they did, and by allowing themselves to be weaponized against their OWN COUNTRYMEN, they LOST. and they lost BIG.
but no, you people want to think of these people being martyr's for a just cause, and thus, people like you will CONTINUE THE CYCLE. costing MORE lives.
and who benefits from this death? certainly not the community. certainly not the people who died. nobody, but those who want to TEAR US APART.
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Titanfall2020
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posted November 22, 2021 04:47 AM |
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Kayna said:
I'm sorry, he was hired to do so, that automatically clears him of any wrongdoing.
"I was just doing my job"
Man, if there's one lesson to be learned from this, it's that the way to hell is paved with good intentions. Kyle had good intentions, the other guys on rooftops with guns had good intentions, the protesters had good intentions, the 3 guys shot by Kyle had good intentions, and among all that group, a handful dares to question what having good intentions can really bring.
"I have good intentions, how could I possibly be wrong?"
The jury found NO WRONGDOING, after examining all of the evidence you've haven't. Kyle's intentions were to defend property from being burned down by terrorists, and heal anyone he could injured by the rioters, including the rioters themselves. He didn't go there seeking to shoot people, as you erroneously assume. He didn't want the child rapist, the wife beater, and the two thieves to threaten him with death and then attack him. But he brought the gun in case such terrorists were intent on violence that night.
On the other hand, you assume the protesters had good intentions. I vigorously argue they did not have good intentions. The 5 time convicted child rapist was running around shouting the N word, and shouting at people "Shoot me N*****!!!". He said "IM GONNA KILL YOU IF I FIND YOU ALONE!" to Kyle. He did not have good intentions. He was mentally ill and out for blood and to cause havoc.
The other protesters were burning down small businesses that had nothing to do with Jacob Blake (A rapist who was shot by a cop after he pulled a knife on said cop. The initial cause of the riots, thanks to corrupt corporate media and wealthy leftists who wanted chaos to help win an election). There might have been a handful of ignoramuses such as yourself there, not having an inkling of the real statistics, or the Jacob Blake case. Said ignoramuses were just whipped into a frenzy by corporate media and politicians, and moved to disrupt such "sOcIaL cOnStRuCtS" as having police, and having laws which don't give immunity to rapists to kill cops with impunity. These might have thought they had good intentions, but weighed objectively their intentions were utter snow.
Kyle's intentions on the other hand were: Defend private citizens small businesses from being burned down by left wing terrorists. Defend private citizens from being beaten to a pulp or to death by left wing terrorists (As we had seen for several months straight from BLM/Antifa riots). Heal any terrorists, ignoramuses, and law abiding citizens caught up in the havoc created by the Democrat party riots.
These intentions were far better the the protesters. And he was found guilty of no wrongdoing.
For wrongdoing, ask why the Democrat party and their affiliates stirred a mob up into a frenzy, and encouraged them to burn, loot, murder, and destroy. Ask why the corporate media pretended they were peaceful protests, even as they accrued the most property damage from riots in US history (adjusted for inflation), and murdered over 30 people. Ask why the federal government, and left wing governor refused to accept Trumps offer to peace-keeping national guard to defend the businesses from the Democrat paramilitary.
Should Kyle have been there? God knows. Was anyone else there? No, the police were ordered to stand down, the national guard was halted by corrupt feds. Would the terrorists have burned down buildings if Kyle wasn't there? Unequivocally yes, for the terrorists did not burn down any buildings that Kyle and his fellows were at, as they had the two previous nights, and that night where Kyle and crew weren't stationed.
Before you demand men such as Kyle stay home and let left wing terrorists burn, loot, and beat down innocent; at least consider how you'd feel if the politicians left you defenseless, and the left wing terrorists burned your business down, looted your store, or beat the snow out of you without cause. Bet you'd wish someone with the stones to defend you from such injustice was there.
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