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Thread: Interesting theories and questions
Reval95
Reval95


Hired Hero
posted September 17, 2022 04:16 PM

Interesting theories and questions

Good day and evening! I created this section here because I've been thinking a lot about the world of Ashan. I have some interesting theories, observations and questions. I'm curious about other people's opinions, what do you think about these. I hope one day we will get answers from the creators or writers themselves.

I would like to note that these are just my theories and questions and if I am wrong about something or there is already an answer to it, then please write it down for me. And one more thing. These are not meant to be funny, silly or ridiculous things. I look answers seriously. Alright, let's get started.

Most of them will be related to Heroes V.

Grawl = Lorhish?

These two characters are very similar. The spikes in their shoulders, both the great lovers and saints of the Cerberus, and their helmets are pretty much the same.

Are Veyer and Nebiros brothers?

As written in the story, they are extremely similar, and their icon is also the same, only in the 6th part it is a little different.

Could Nymus have been a more important villain?

Several concept arts have been made of Nymus, where he looks like a major villain, and even fights against Isabel in one of them. Do you think his potential was wasted and could he have been a better or more important villain?

What happened to Veyer?

It is certain that Veyer did not die, as Raelag and Isabel killed an archdevil instead. This is also reinforced by the fact that the scenario in Hammers of Fate highlights that his story takes place after everyone believes the demon sovereign is dead and wants to take his place. Now, after he learns the ultimate gatling and goes through the magic portal, we don't know what happened to him, because he doesn't show up anymore. Do you think Kha-Beleth killed him because he wanted to usurp the throne or what could have happened to him?

Orlando died or was driven back to Sheogh?

The text of the campaign states that he must be banish. Banishing doesn't necessarily mean dying. However, in Heroes Kingdoms, which takes place after Dark Messiah, continuing one of the bad endings, Orlando does not return like the other demons.

After the end of the war and the victory of Wulfstan, did Hangvul let go of his hatred?

The purpose of Hangvul was to drive away or exterminate the dark elves. After Wulfstan becomes the new high king, Hangvul acknowledges him, but it is not revealed whether he has given up his ambitions against the Dark Elves or not.

Ranleth dead during the battle against Zehir?

Ranleth does fight Zehir, but after the fight it is not revealed what happened to her.

Arantir alive or undead?

Everyone calls Arantir a necromancer, but in Dark Messiah it is said that he does not sleep at all, and his skin is also very white and pale. Could he be a lich?

Was there slavery against orcs in the Griffin Empire before Biara came to power?

According to the story, in the Holy Falcon Empire, the orcs were slaves, but in the Griffin Empire, there is little mention of this, and Ivan himself maintained a good relationship with them. Yet Gotai destroys several griffin cities and talks as if their captivity has been going on for a long time, even though the Falcon Empire is long gone. So do you think Biara reintroduced slavery as Isabel against the orcs, or was it already present in the time of Nicolai and Alexei?

Menelag and Phenrig were demon cultist?

Phenrig is not quite sure, but there is a possibility. If not, how does he summon Xana, who is a succubus? Menelag, on the other hand, is much more certain that it was. Some important information is revealed in Arantir's campaign, for example, that he was an active helper of Orlando and fled with him to the Bull Dutchy.

Was Laszlo brainwashed or was he this brutal in the first place?

Laszlo was a butcher, bloodthirsty and cruel knight, he caused quite a lot of deaths. However, at the beginning of Hammers of Fate, Godric complained about Laszlo becoming commander. Do you think he was like this before Biara's reign or did the succubus make him like this?

What happened Laszlo before his death?

Before his death, Laszlo unleashed powerful dark and destructive magic, and also began to growl. He was possessed by something or the dark force had taken over him so much

Did the members of the Red Church see the people as demons?

An interesting theory. This happens after demons start appearing on the farms and attack Alaric, Freyda and Laszlo. Now it occurred to me, what if in some cases innocent people and peasants, fanatics of the red church, were also imagined or seen as demons due to demonic illusions. This is reinforced by the fact that Fredy declares that they kill and destroy without evidence, and she also says the magic word, imagined. Which calls into question the theory that Alaric uses the Word of Light spell, which only affects undead and demons.

Was Lorenzo a demon?

Many characters (according to official information, sources and game-provided info and stuff) are extremely long-lived. Among them is Lorenzo, who already fought during the Falcon empire and was also a member of the Red Church, the difference between the two is hundreds of years. Now, I don't think immortality is a stupid answer, it actually explains a few things (there were also immortals in Enroth). However, there are two important things. One is that Lorenzo was able to use demonic magic and even summon demons. The other is that the demons were able to take on the form of others with illusions and magic. There is, for example, Biara, who assumed the body of Isabel, or Grok, who assumed the body of Valeria, and the real one was in prison. Now, Lorenzo just died before the demonic illusion is removed, so it is conceivable that he could have been a demon as well.

What happened to Benedikt?

Benedikt would have been Alaric's most fanatical follower, one of the most important knights of the Red Chruch. However, he does not appear in any campaign nor has he been given a role in the story. What do you think, why this happened?

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted September 18, 2022 12:56 PM

Reval95 said:


Grawl = Lorhish?

Pretty sure yeah. I recall the bio supported the theory as well.

Could Nymus have been a more important villain?

Ubisoft based their designs on Olivier Ledroit's artwork. He had drawn a lot of stuff, most of which served as a base somewhere. Not necessarily whole, some pieces here, some there. So.. I don't think it was about Nymus in particular.

What happened to Veyer?

Only guys like Marzhin or Erwan would know. Marzhin had hinted there was some story to be told about the inferno sin overlords or whatever they are called.

Orlando died or was driven back to Sheogh?

It is also possible they forgot about him xD

After the end of the war and the victory of Wulfstan, did Hangvul let go of his hatred?

Probably filed under 'nobody cares' heh. But probably not.

Arantir alive or undead?

I do not recall if it is ever mentioned when he rose to power, lichdom can take a while. But Dark Messiah was made close to H5 where liches were skeletal but afterwards the creative direction said that liches cannot be skeletal in Ashan. Heh.

Menelag and Phenrig were demon cultist?

I suspect so yes.

Was Laszlo brainwashed or was he this brutal in the first place?

Once a loyal captain of the Griffin Empire, Laszlo's desire for glory was twisted by Biara over a period of a few years. Warping his love for battle into a lust for blood and his search for adulation into a need to be recognised by her and her alone, Biara now has total control over Laszlo's motivations. He is no longer a tough but respected leader of soldiers, but a cruel and demanding officer who views even his own troops as fodder.

What happened Laszlo before his death?

Didn't Freyda just smite him with Elrath's help?

Did the members of the Red Church see the people as demons?

I mean.. the inquisition has historically been known to torture and burn innocents in their quest to find the guilty.

What happened to Benedikt?

The writers forgot about him xD
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