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Heroes Community > Heroes 3.5 - WoG and Beyond > Thread: HotA 1.7.0 is out - Factory creature analysis
Thread: HotA 1.7.0 is out - Factory creature analysis This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV
FdgK
FdgK


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posted April 16, 2024 11:18 PM

I see. Thanks for responding.

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gatecrasher
gatecrasher


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posted April 17, 2024 07:36 PM

Phoenix4ever said:
I wonder what those competitive players would do without their beloved banks and P-boxes, would they even know what to do...
It would be fun to give them a real "culture shock".


To give you one example, on YT you can watch Lexiav (whom I'd say you can call a competitive player) conquer the Factory campaign. Spoiler: Almost never does he recruit the full town army. You'll learn why.


Phoenix4ever said:
bloodsucker said:
Yet, I bet some of these guys would beat your record on your own map first try, that one included.


No they would'nt, as I play by completely different rules that they are used to.
There are also very few banks and no P-boxes with creatures in my map.
They would feel so lost and think they are playing a completely different game.

No, let them find out how to break a day sooner with Luna, get into the desert to collect relics and finish the game before week 3.
Same thing as they have been doing for the last 25 years, must really be super fun. (Not!)


That's quite some ignorance about how "competitive gaming" looks like. It's not playing the same template over and over again with the same rules.
Watch some streams or YT videos, it's free and enlightening.

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Phoenix4ever
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posted April 17, 2024 08:24 PM
Edited by Phoenix4ever at 20:28, 17 Apr 2024.

Really?, it seems to me Jebus Cross is (almost) as old as the game itself and it does'nt seem to have changed much either since then.
But good for them, if they actually know how to play anything else.

Btw. I am very familiar with Lexiav's YT videos.
He is a fun YouTuber, but I don't agree with everything he says, for example his disdain for Water Magic.
But competitive players does'nt play water maps either, so yeah...

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted April 17, 2024 08:31 PM

Phoenix4ever said:
I don't agree with everything he says, for example his disdain for Water Magic.
In competitive multiplayer, watch his custom map playlists (start with Jennifer, for me the Best map ever) and check if he doesn't pick it.
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Phoenix4ever
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posted April 17, 2024 08:39 PM

Okay, but have you watched his spell video, where he puts every single water spell in B, C or D tier, even stuff like Clone, Prayer, Cure and Bless...

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Ghost
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posted April 17, 2024 08:57 PM
Edited by Ghost at 21:59, 17 Apr 2024.

Yes I've seen some players don't picked Water.. I don't know why.. It's a puzzle.. Bloodsucker is a Water-like spellcaster..
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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted April 17, 2024 09:01 PM

I remember he ranked Archangels Heaven tier (above S sigma), so he had to be talking just about multiplayer, without Clone/Water Archangels aren't that good in single, not above Azures at least.
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Phoenix4ever
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posted April 17, 2024 09:42 PM

Him putting Clone in C tier is a colossal joke, he seems to believe Hypnotize is better than Clone, since Hypnotize is B tier in his opinion. What a joke.
Okay I pick Eovacius, Lexiav can have Astral.
Fly in B tier is also a joke.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted April 17, 2024 09:52 PM

I've seen an amazing fight from Glenn, yesterday, where he used Hypnotize in a creative manner but that spell is quite niche. Yesterday, he (Lexiav) played Eovacious and was praising him, so he should be on the rocks that day...
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Ghost
Ghost


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posted April 17, 2024 10:05 PM

Don't Phoenix4ever!

DD is much better.. Hypnotize required a great skilled player, you find my Elite map.. Clone? Don't throw damaged spells nor attack them.. Giving Clone creature strikes you.. But Archangels are so snowing benefit thus Clone Archangel casts Resurrection..
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Phoenix4ever
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posted April 17, 2024 11:21 PM
Edited by Phoenix4ever at 23:23, 17 Apr 2024.

DD IS better than Fly, especially if it's 4 times per day.
But then TP and DD should be SSS tier, while everything else starts from S tier, including Fly, which is also a great spell.
Clone is A tier, S tier if Eovacius, but since there is only one Eovacius, I would settle for Clone in A tier.

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