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posted October 09, 2004 02:12 AM |
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Censorship
Censorship, what is the good of it??
Some people are lucky, and some people are not. I mean this in regards to game censorship. Some countries allow games to be played in their current form, and all they do, if anything is give it a harsher rating. However it still is this often fantastic game. Just because the ratings may be MA or R doesn’t really control which people can get their hands on a copy though, can it? Often young children don’t even buy their own games, they get their parents to, or somebody else older, who may or may not know the contents of the game.
Then there are people like us in Australia, who have to put up with game censorship. When a game is edited, it takes out fun from the game if you ask me, no matter what was removed. If it served no purpose or did not influence game play or game graphics, it would not have been included. However the people who censor these games decide for us what should be, and what shouldn’t be in a game. They use a rating system I believe, so that every game can be rated no higher then MA 15+. They remove all sorts of things for games, things sometimes I didn’t even realise until told by friends or others who have played non-censored games. Things like excess amounts of blood, partial nudity and the ability to shoot body parts off are some of the censoring that I don’t mind that are missing. However, when they start tampering with game play itself, then they have gone too far. For example every body knows and most likely has played the infamous Grand Theft Auto series. There have been certain elements removed from these games that do/do not bother me. Like the hookers, they are still there, but you do not get the same ‘interactions’ you can get when playing an overseas version. However the biggest shock of my life (ok, ok of the day) was when I heard that apparently it had been confirmed that the night robberies from GTA: San Andreas were going to be removed completely. This brought a shock to me, and my previous dislike for the staff of the censorship place turned to immediate hate and loathing. I had been dreaming of this for a very long time and had been excited about the new surprises that could be in store for me when I finally get the game, however the way its going, all new parts will be edited out  ok maybe not that bad, but you get the drift.
So what is the point of censorship? Is it to shield the children from unsafe and unhealthy gaming? Are they worried about monkey see, monkey do? What ever it is they should just get over it. This may sound strange, but we live in a free society, and yet our own right to decide what is fun and what is violent is stripped from us? If children don’t see this stuff in games, they are going to hear or see it somewhere else, period. You can’t control a person’s life. I agree with the ratings system employed by the US and other countries. It gives you the choice, not the government (or who ever). Also how come excessively violent games are not allowed, but movies are? Make up your minds I beg you.
What are your thoughts on censorship? I’d especially like to hear from other Aussies, do you agree/disagree with me about our censorship system?
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posted October 09, 2004 07:39 AM |
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It gives you the choice, not the government (or who ever). Also how come excessively violent games are not allowed, but movies are? Make up your minds I beg you.
Well the thing is, you're watching characters committing acts of violence in movies, but as for video games you are the one thats actually committing the acts.
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DarkTitan
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posted October 09, 2004 08:19 AM |
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Yes i agree with you there, but even though you are only watching, you still are seeing often horrendous acts, which are also real not graphics.
But anyways what is so bad about GTA:SA's robbery missions? Does they really believe that we are going to want to rob peoples houses? come on show us some respect please.
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posted October 09, 2004 12:30 PM |
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infamous Grand Theft Auto series
why is it infamous? that means its famous for a bad reason. i say its a good reason.
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DarkTitan
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posted October 09, 2004 03:46 PM |
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ummm im not sure why i called it infamous, but most likely because i believe that this is one of the first and best of its genre, and the game isnt about being nice is it? When ever i mention GTA people dont think of a kind and loving game, they think of the crime and evilness (well i do) which is true. The game is evil, but i and everybody else still love it!!
But also infamous can mean other words, not just bad. I like to think legendary and renowned when i think infamous also, all things that GTA are.
BTW: Dont worry about why i described GTA as infamous, whats your opinion on censorship?? Youre an Aussie you should remember what is is like, even if Japan doesnt have a censoring system.
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Asmodean
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posted October 09, 2004 04:55 PM |
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Good topic for discussion.
Keep it up.
Edit: QP applied to DarkTitan.
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted October 10, 2004 05:16 AM |
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Of course i remember what its like. I only moved here this January. Thats right, Japan doesnt have any censorship. Quite the opposite actually ive heard. But i dont think that censorship is right. It should be rated on what the game is like, not what it is like after the Censors make it the way they want it. It should be up to the buyer to decide whether the game is appropriate. If they do not censor, however, they should enforce the age restrictions stricter. The GTA games are pretty serious though, wouldnt you agree? The crime level is high, and it could have a serious negative influence on some players.
The game Ninja Gaiden, new for XBOX topped the charts recently all over the world, and it was rated better than Halo. In UK, they took out the feature of decapitation which is a large part of combat. Pretty funny actually. Not sure if they took it out in Aus, i bought it there. Im not sure if ive seen a head get chopped off or not. Also in the greatly awaited RPG fable, there is actually a record to keep track of how many heads you have knocked off. You can even do it with your fists! However i dont have an Australian version so I'm not sure. I think that violence definately should not be censored, just rated. Its not like anyone is gonnna play Ninja gaiden and then run out on the streets Kill Bill style and start hacking people up, or shoot them in the face with a bow. Same for sex, it should just be rated. Because if youre too young to be seeing that kind of stuff you will most likely not be allowed to buy the game because of parents and whatnot. But by the time it is possible to get at sex stuff, youre old enough anyway.
But i have a different view on the crime area. Drug use is serious, because it can show how common it is, or how it works. Stealing cars and other such crimes also, i can understand that kind of censorship but i still dont agree with it.
I heard this story, not sure if its real but some guy went and killed people because he was shizophrenic and he could not see the difference between this violent shooting game he was playing and reality. Being in America, he had the 'God Given Right To Bear Arms' so he kinda went and kinda killed people. Could be just a rumor, but then again, that sort of stuff fuels the censorship machine.
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posted October 10, 2004 05:46 AM |
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I agree with you almost exactly, the only thing is i believe the game should come with a warning, maybe one that has to be signed so that you know exactly what you are buying. However enforcing the age part really wouldn't work i believe, because i know i would just get a parent or someone to buy the game for me. I am not affected by what i play, i dont get the need for speed now that i have my L's on the street, i dont feel like pulling a rocket launcher out of my pocket and shooting police cars as they drive past. No i dont and i dont believe others do either. The censor people are scared one day it might happen, but the fact is i dont believe it ever will, because people have more common sense, and if they dont, they shouldnt be playing games.
I heard that a mother went and bought GTA 3 for her 4 year olds sons bday and when she realised the content got really upset, so much that she forced people to take notice of what was in the game and subsequently getting it sensored. I remember when GTA was recalled from shelves so that the new 'censored' version could be played instead. If you ask me, what was the lady buying an MA game for her 4 year old? Doesnt the name Grand Theft Auto suggest that this game isnt gonna exactly be nice? Its her fault she allowed her 4 yr old to get exposure to these sorts of games, and shes the one who has to understand that.
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