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Odvin
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posted May 16, 2003 10:39 PM bonus applied.
Edited By: Odvin on 19 Jul 2003

Heroic Calculator

Ahem, without any introduction - I've written a small program that allows you to calculate some thingie related to HoMM3. You can take it from here. I suppose that no calculator for HoMM3 was ever created (plz correct me if I'm wrong), so I made one... Er... I also wanted to say that I need any feedback... The program wasn't tested too much yet, so any bug reports would be especially appreciated. The program was compiled for Delphi 7 under Win'98 SE, seems like it should work under XP also. If anything doesn't work or works not as it should, please let me know - either by IM or via email. Thx in advance.
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zilonite
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posted May 17, 2003 08:01 AM

Good work, man! However are u sure about that bonus pecentage of spell-special heroes against monster of different levels?

Also i think there are some things that could be added (like number of summoned demons and creatures needed for that, number of skellies raised).

About usefulness - I think, the best use of it would be for some hard single player scenarious, but in multiplay that calculation thing will take too much time.
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Odvin
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posted May 17, 2003 10:19 AM

As for the spell-special calculation: I took it from one of the Russian gaming magazines and it seems to work correctly... Or am I mistaken?

As for the usefulness - sure, it wasn't made for multiplay. Perhaps for some single games and maybe (if needed somewhere) for mapmakers. To check the values when the Game is not reachable.

As for the functions... It is the very first version and of course it will be expanded. First of all I'm going to add Offense/Archery/Armorer calculation in the Damage section. Also maybe those that you've listed.

Anyway, thanks for your input.
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Wub
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posted May 17, 2003 03:22 PM
Edited By: Wub on 4 Jun 2003

Now this is great stuff! It's indeed very easy to use, it looks nice and best of all...I haven't found a single error in the calculations yet. For a player like me who sometimes even used a calculator when playing heroes3, this is going to be my favourite heroes3 toy. Excellent!

I do have some suggestions for you to make it even better. I read above that you wanted to include armorer, offense and archery in the damage calculation too, which is nice. You may also want to put hate relationships and stuff like that in. For a full list of what could be included, check this post from sos. I think that in the damage calculation section, you could also include a question about the remaining hitpoints of the top creature because that often matters for the amount of creatures that you kill. And one last thing, in the skill effect section you want to know the level of the target creature. I wonder why because (but I'm probably wrong) the only spell for which target level matters, is sacrifice and you didn't list that spell. And you also didn't mean hero level, because that is asked a bit later.

Keep up the good work!
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Odvin
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posted May 17, 2003 07:53 PM

Thanks for your feedback, Wub. I've read that post from sos... But there's one problem: to include all the details of damage calculation, many new interface elements have to be added. I'll need to do some optimisation to avoid having a ton of options on one single page. The point is to make the program really simple, and complete at the same time. But that will be, somehow. Not quite soon though, because I have problems with the Internet. The update will perhaps be available in a week... Stay tuned.
As for the spell specialty: the formula that I've seen is:
Bonus = (HeroLvl/TargetLvl)*<Some_qty_of_%s>
Don't remember the exact amount of %s added... Need to look into my sources. But I think that I'll test it and if I notice any mistake, this will be corrected.
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posted May 18, 2003 01:06 AM

I really want to say great job of both... you program is very easy to use, and helpful , and you sure about the level of the hero affect the damage done by the heroe?? whatever great job dudes
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Kuma
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posted May 18, 2003 03:17 PM
Edited By: Kuma on 19 Jul 2003

Gave red star.  
Great job Odvin. Very helpful to a lot of players I would say.
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Kuma
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posted May 18, 2003 03:56 PM

Lol, found an error: 1st aid specialists gets about 6 milion % on lvl 10
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posted May 18, 2003 04:36 PM

lol great stuff, if i ever hold a while in battle once i get back to playing you will know the reason now

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Kuma
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posted May 18, 2003 05:42 PM

I think the calculator doesn't work when u have a firewall
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Odvin
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posted May 18, 2003 06:08 PM

Quote:
Lol, found an error: 1st aid specialists gets about 6 milion % on lvl 10

LOL, thx Kuma, I didn't notcie that... 1st Aid is listed in the dropdown box but not in the sources
This and some other stuff will be fixed in the next release... available in a few days maybe.

P.S. Thx for the red star also
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Wub
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posted June 05, 2003 01:25 AM
Edited By: Wub on 4 Jun 2003

Hi Odvin,

I have been doing some testing about spell specialties from heroes. In my previous post I said I had some doubts about those creature levels, well forget about that. There is indeed a bonus against lower level creatures (it only shows when you cast the spell though, spellbook value is fixed). I wonder why I didn't know that ...

Anyway, in the process of testing I stumbled upon some deficits of the heroic calculator.

It appeared that the heroic calculator showed slightly different results from the game when I let a level 24 alagar cast ice bolt on level 5 and level 7 creatures (other creature levels were correctly calculated). Maybe it is my version though, because I noticed that level 5 and level 6 creatures receive equal damage, strangely.

Also the heroic calculator seems to round the results of a calculation down, when the game often rounds the results up. This happens, for example, when your hero has sorcery.

Finally, I don't see the point in filling in my hero level when I am not a specialist in a spell. But this may also just reflect my limited knowledge of the game . All this feedback is not meant as nitpicking as you will surely understand, because I still think that this calculator is a great tool. Hence this post .
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Odvin
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posted June 05, 2003 01:38 PM
Edited By: Odvin on 5 Jun 2003

Thanks for those notes, Wub.
I'll check the creature level issue - that's strange, but maybe I've made a mistake somewhere...
As for the hero level - yes, that was my fault, you may leave the field unchanged if the hero isn't a specialist.
The problem is that I'm leaving (back only in September), so the next version won't appear soon...
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Kuma
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posted June 21, 2003 12:23 AM

It amazes me how use it can be.

Even after nearly 400 mostly big rmds, which means a lot of fights. I still find it useful
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silx87
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posted June 21, 2003 01:57 AM

okay,this may just be me,but is it cure supposed to be like that?a lvl5o hero cures over 500 without water magic or basic lvl,but only over 200 with adnvaced or xpert!

anyway,nice thing Odvin,thanx
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Hexa
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posted June 21, 2003 09:46 AM

I would like to see it work aswell . can ya fix the link Odvin .. it'r broken now!@ '
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posted June 26, 2003 03:00 PM

If anyone needs it, I can send it through MSN. Just lemme know.
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posted June 26, 2003 04:45 PM
Edited By: Hexa on 26 Jun 2003

I would love to see it, but i doubt i will see you on msn, what with like a 8-10 hour time zone difference. coudl you email it to me? is it under 2 megs?
if so please either make a link to it, or
mailto:alpha-draco@shaw.ca

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Kuma
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posted June 26, 2003 11:15 PM

That is a way also. I just sent it.

If anyone else wants it, I'll send it too.
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posted June 27, 2003 04:49 PM

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I would like to see it work aswell . can ya fix the link Odvin .. it'r broken now!@ '

yeah,the link didn't work but I got it from odvins homepage
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