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posted November 25, 2002 10:20 AM |
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Miss World Pageant
The Miss World Pageant was being held in Nigeria this year. Now this is a huge event that brings in millions of dollars to the local economy - and quite frankly Nigeria needs it. Badly.
So here were all these national beauty pageant winners getting settled in in their hotel rooms when none other than militant islamics start rioting, saying this was offensive to allah. To make a long story short, over 200 people were killed, over 1,000 injured, and over 12,000 left homeless after homes were destroyed.
So the pageant organizers moved the pageant from Nigeria to London. Way to go extremists. You're taking badly, badly, badly needed revenue out of your own community's pockets, not to mention killing hundreds of innocent people - but they're USED to that. It's their standard M.O.
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privatehudson
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posted November 25, 2002 11:08 AM |
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Very sad, but also very predictable
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posted November 25, 2002 01:31 PM |
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I think it's sad that Nigeria needed the tainted money generated by a cattle market like that in the first place.
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AzureMajesty
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posted November 25, 2002 02:59 PM |
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Score one for the media again
How long is it going to take for the media to realize that they are causing the problems to generate their own news stories? Or is it that they already realize this? They continuosly perpetuate their own needs and wants just to generate self-gratification and circulation.
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The riots were ignited by an article in Nigerian newspaper This Day suggesting the Prophet Mohammad would probably have married one of the Miss World beauty queens if he were alive today.
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posted November 25, 2002 03:08 PM |
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You can't seriously be blaming the newspaper for this? I'm going to desperately hope that you were being sarcastic, but I couldn't detect any in your post.
It's called an... opinion piece... people are generally considered to be entitled their own opinions...
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AzureMajesty
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posted November 25, 2002 06:21 PM |
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I wasn't being sarcastic in the least, but was being serious. The quote I made came from ABC.com and I have read & seen that the editor of the paper has been arrested for allowing the artical to be printed in the first place.
There had already been months of tension with the pageant to take place in Nigeria since the Islamic people feel that the beauty pageant promotes promiscuity in women. Then the editor allowed the article written by "Isioma Daniel" to be ran.
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What would Muhammad think? In all honesty, he would probably have chosen a wife from among them,'' Isioma Daniel wrote.
Muslims called the article offensive and riots erupted in the northern city of Kaduna on Wednesday, intensified Thursday and spread Friday to the capital.
This is what I meant by the media gratifying themselves with news-worthy stories. They are usually the ones that make the news & keep it fired up. Why?? To keep themselves in a job imo.
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privatehudson
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posted November 25, 2002 06:34 PM |
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Azure makes a valid point there, The media is a circus printing nothing more than what will bring it controversy and sales. News is just a word to them, not a reality.
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posted November 25, 2002 07:02 PM |
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It's called an... opinion piece... people are generally considered to be entitled their own opinions...
Depends on where you're at.
Not everyone in the world enjoys the same basic freedoms many of us do.
Entitled to have an opinion, yes.
Entitled to print it for public consumption, maybe not so much.
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posted November 25, 2002 10:30 PM |
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Exactly, people would be up in arms in america if mainstream newspapers printed excerpts from Mein Kampf as if they were gospel, so there are some occaisions when common sense must come before freedom of speech.
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posted November 25, 2002 11:29 PM |
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So you're all saying that the purpose of an editor is to act as a censor? You're basically advocating government run papers? Papers can and do run highly controversial things in the US, especially the more fringe papers. Doesn't mean you can go burn down their offices and kill whoever happens to be nearby.
Blaming the paper for this is roughly the same logic as blaming a woman for being raped since she was wearing makeup and what were men supposed to think with her painting herself and whatnot?
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posted November 25, 2002 11:40 PM |
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When a paper publishes deliberately inflamatory remarks designed for nothing more than inflaming the population then yes they should be. No matter how much we pretend the media is cencored to some extent. It's just some aren't. And I meant mainstream IE something like the New York Times.
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posted November 26, 2002 12:46 AM |
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It would seem like it is the media's responsibility to report the (Who, What, Where, When & How). But when they start using supposition and their perspective of the "Why" of any event then it is not news. It is speculation and spin-doctoring any facts.
The comment that the reporter made was very off color. Are we to take it that this reporter knew Mohammad personally and was privy to what he would've done? When you intentionally yell fire in a movie theatre you are endangering the lives of the fellow patrons. This reported in all aspect yelled fire in a already intense situation and thus did in fact endanger lives.
Whether this was his intention or not, he went beyond the scope of being a news reporter and tried being a comedian. His comment turned out to be a bad joke at the expense of the Islamic Religion, but the followers of that religion didn't perceive it as a joke but took it as a direct insult.
And now we are witnessing the results.
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posted November 26, 2002 01:04 AM |
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1. Only an idiot would think that he was seriously quoting Muhammed, especially given the "probably" part. Are you saying editorials aren't allowed in a paper?
2. Last I checked, no newspaper has ever succesfully forced anybody to read their stories. People are incapable of, I don't know, not reading papers they don't agree with.
The responsibility lies solely with the rioters and possibly with people such as Datti Ahmad (who is trying to get Islamic law enforced in Nigeria) who say things like, "We Muslims do not provoke other people. But when we are provoked we do not rest until we deal with the offending agent."
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posted November 26, 2002 03:48 PM |
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You're basically advocating government run papers?
It's not a question of what I advocate or prefer. It's a fact of life.
I don't advocate murder either, but it happens.
1.) In the Islam faith, books discussing the faith are not allowed to draw a picture or image of the holy prophet Muhammed (sp?). It's considered sacrilege. That might seem silly to some people, but that's what they believe.
The reporter making a comment like that about Muhammed really had no other purpose that to stir the proverbial pot.
Do I support freedom of speech? Yes. Am I going to call your mother a blankety-blank at Christmas dinner just because I can? No.
2.) Yes, people could just ignore the newspaper. Of course, that would defeat the whole purpose, now wouldn't it?
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posted March 23, 2005 02:55 AM |
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I could be Miss World, I M BEEYOOTIFUL!!!!!!
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posted March 23, 2005 02:58 PM |
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Prove it and post a picture in the RL Photos thread 
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posted March 23, 2005 07:19 PM |
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Topless would be our first choice..
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