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Celfious
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posted October 11, 2003 05:16 AM |
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Everyones posting their own theories. We could, try to piece a whole one together. To play this game, support 3 ideas. Then each next person use those ideas, and come upw ith more.. Also say if the ideas are wrong
1- infinity is infinity but we only know infinity compared with numbers of things (including the adding of numbers).
2- negative infinity dose not exist, unless simply numerical numbers 
3- Positive infinity, may be equivalent to eternity, dealing with atleast time.
if not just dont lol..
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Dingo
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posted October 11, 2003 05:19 AM |
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Wow, this is the first wastlelands thread I have seen that has gotten over 2 pages long. Maybe this should be in the Tavern?
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posted October 11, 2003 03:01 PM |
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Simplest mathematical rule: (x+1) > x
The number circle/sphere violates this rule at the second positive/negative boundary.
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posted October 11, 2003 06:57 PM |
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Negative infinity dose not exist, unless simply numerical numbers
Not quite. If positive infinity exists, negative infinity must also exist. In the case of the number circle, -ve infinity and +ve infinity are the same point, but both still exist, just like you can have -0 and +0.
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Simplest mathematical rule: (x+1) > x
The number circle/sphere violates this rule at the second positive/negative boundary.
Many mathematical rules don't work when it comes to infinit maths. For example, according to this very rule, if you set x to inf, you would get "inf + 1 > inf", which is not true because inf + n = inf.
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posted October 11, 2003 07:11 PM |
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Not really. If you could add 1 to it, it wasn't infinity, it was just approaching infinity. Most people forget that the key point is all those equations is the little "lim x --> inf" underneath the function. "inf" +1 ~= inf, but there is a huge difference between "approximately equal" and "equal." Anyway, the burden of proof is on the person claiming that inf + 1 < 0 (ie, you). Until you have some kind of proof (which would, admittedly, win you the nobel prize in physics) your statement has no more mathematical validity or importance than "0=12" or "1+1=1".
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chosen0ne
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posted October 11, 2003 07:15 PM |
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KittenAngel
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posted October 11, 2003 07:53 PM |
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Moved to Taver per Request of Lith
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posted October 11, 2003 09:29 PM |
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Not really. If you could add 1 to it, it wasn't infinity, it was just approaching infinity. Most people forget that the key point is all those equations is the little "lim x --> inf" underneath the function.
I do not forget the "lim x --> inf" part, I simply do not discuss it because it involves calculus which not everybody understands. However, it's quite obvious that if you add a number to infinity you still get a number that approaches infinity because infinity is so large that any addition to it would be completly insignificant. If you wanted to use calc, you could say that (x --> inf) is the same as (x --> infinity+). This means that x approaches infinity from the positive side.
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"inf" +1 ~= inf, but there is a huge difference between "approximately equal" and "equal."
I believe that in the case of infinity = and ~= are not different because you are forgetting that we are not dealing with a finite number here. In fact, -nothing- will actually be equal infinity.
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Anyway, the burden of proof is on the person claiming that inf + 1 < 0 (ie, you). Until you have some kind of proof (which would, admittedly, win you the nobel prize in physics) your statement has no more mathematical validity or importance than "0=12" or "1+1=1".
I don't believe that this is something that can be proven through mathematics, but it may be proven by physics at some point in the future when applied to the universe. Anyway, I did say that this is just an insane little theory and not something I am trying to prove and publish. I am no mathematitian. I don't think I can even spell that word.
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Dragon_Slayer
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posted October 12, 2003 10:24 AM |
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I am completely confused?!?!?!?
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