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Midnight
Midnight


Promising
Famous Hero
posted January 20, 2004 05:36 AM

pretty funny how someone has to be blamed for H3 being an old outdated game.

Even a dead cat bounces when u drop it, doesnt mean it is alive. Is just the same when any new idea or new "dictator" arrives for H3 tourney. A little bit of activity then goes back to the inevitable downward trend.

I'm waiting for the thread blaming me, bjorn, TEL and Mocara for promoting AOW Shadow Magic amongst H3 veterans. That is closer to the truth
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rychenroller
rychenroller


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted January 20, 2004 06:16 AM

Must be a high coefficient of restitution on that cat


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rychenroller
rychenroller


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted January 20, 2004 06:19 AM
Edited By: rychenroller on 20 Jan 2004

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this is to everyone


ok you can't complain if you don't bother to do something about it
its just not the way it works
you have no honor if you don't even try to change it
i don't see xarsucks or rcrollerstine asking to help her because (they) say she sucks at it

how about grow some balls and help out if you don't like it

don't ask for a miracle , be the miracle
words of advice



Or play something else

I've been asked, but I dont want to get into the admin side of heroes. But because I dont want to run it, that means I have to like the way it is being run? no haha dont work that way.

And anyway, this is the same old snow....it somes up every 4 months or so, the way MaH is being run....its old news, and I'm wondering what I care anyway. Ves will be doing it all in h5, I'll be back then.


Later.
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balcough_dra...
balcough_dragons


Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted January 20, 2004 06:31 AM

see thats a good answer
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whos your daddy and what does he do?

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xx1
xx1


Adventuring Hero
posted January 20, 2004 12:53 PM

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So if you wanted kitten to be replaced for H3 ToH, who would take her role.. hmmm?  


Maybe Motor does ?
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Hexa
Hexa


Responsible
Legendary Hero
posted January 20, 2004 02:41 PM

OK well we know that MAH is almost dead at the moment and WW is still going strong.
The number of people that still play heroes is ofcourse declining still.

The new players (and often the less skilled ones) want(ed) a point system that rewards u for losing a game. Since MAH has had its share of internal problems and was less active a lot of old (TOH) players started playing for WW aswell.

Upon realizing that WW had attractive subtourneys and a solid administration (being Azure LOL) people started to play more and more for WW instead of playing for MAH (which didn’t handle there internal problems well enough).

Ofcourse we all know off personal problems of Kitten and some of Raven (who stays mostly in the background). And although the reasons given by the admins are all valid ones, people in a tourney don’t really care when it effects the tourney they spend COUNTLESS hours in.

They are willing to look through a few problems sure but that’s were it end.

That combined with the strong force driving and maintaining WW, the new innovating subtourney’s, the inability of MAH to get there internal differences aside and make MAH interesting for all heroes players again has lead to the current state of MAH I think.

What can be done?
Very little in my opinion. I think that the remaining heroes tourneys should combine there strengths into one tourney which can perhaps live for another 2 years?@

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balcough_dra...
balcough_dragons


Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted January 20, 2004 10:20 PM

or just get off your high horses and actually spend the cash to get cable and try h4 online for a month or more and see actually what you think
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slayer
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Hexa
Hexa


Responsible
Legendary Hero
posted January 20, 2004 10:49 PM

Don't post tosses like that in a serieus thread please!@
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tewilligar
tewilligar


Famous Hero
Just another willigar
posted January 20, 2004 11:03 PM

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or just get off your high horses and actually spend the cash to get cable and try h4 online for a month or more and see actually what you think


ok...let me repeat to you what has been said to consis,apparently you missed that section:

well....i have something to say in taste...this is for you consis


i have several steps here you must follow to become a decent tosser:


1) call up several friends. invite them over. since you may not have too many friends,you may have to lure some nieghbors over with free foodstuffs and the like.

2) get friends to gather 'round


3) instruct friends to grab onto your shoulders.

4) instruct friends to pull on said shoulders.

5) hopefully your friends are strong. if so,they have successfully dislodged your head from your anal cavity. congrats!

6) you should wear sunglasses. its been some time since you've seen daylight.

7) now,take a breath of fresh air and wake up. its a beautiful world out there isnt it!

these steps do not guarantee you will become a good tosser,but its a neccessary 1st step. thanks for comming out.


read carefully,if you think h4 is any good,please follow above steps.
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balcough_dra...
balcough_dragons


Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted January 21, 2004 01:15 AM

???

well you all better get used to h4 because it will be just like h5 and better

no 1 hero or 7 ceatures
and will need cable

and that was not a toss
and this thread is no where close of being serious
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slayer
whos your daddy and what does he do?

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vesuvius
vesuvius

Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
posted January 21, 2004 01:22 AM


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tewilligar
tewilligar


Famous Hero
Just another willigar
posted January 21, 2004 01:30 AM

nah brother you aint nothin'
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SapphireRavyn
SapphireRavyn


Promising
Famous Hero
Bird of Extreme Patience
posted January 21, 2004 05:37 PM

This is going to be a long post as I am going to respond to several other posts in this one instead of replying 50 times in a row
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the honor council is designed to run independantly from admin. it says so on honor council page. yet admin had thier say in council matters. this is no biggie to me,what is a big deal is when they prevented us from doing our jobs. right now i see so much in mah(notice i refuse to call it toh,because toh was so much more) it makes me ill,but dont look to me to help,been there,done that,and wasnt trusted.

Tewilligar

OK, first of all you are right, Honor Council DOES run independently from Admin, when it comes to game cheats and disputes and admin has not interferred here. Where there has been interference is on the fake reporting cases. The problem here is that you need PROOF You can't just look at someones record and see that they have beaten someone a bunch of times and decide that it's fake reporting, you must have proof. Which means you need the IP's, which only Admin has access to. The case that set you off, at the time that you asked about it, there was no proof, nothing in the IP's to support what you were saying. That has since changed and has been dealt with. Yes they still show up on the pages, but they can no longer report, haven't been able to for quite some time. Look for a HOS update, and a big one at that, real soon. But to say you weren't trusted is CRAP. I have ALWAYS and will ALWAYS trust you, it wasn't that I didn't believe you were right, there just wasn't evidence to PROVE it.
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I just think at least to the updates & active HC, is to hire new RELIABLE helpers to volunteer on updating, WITH the access to all tournies from both administrators.

Also you need a tough Motor type HC head HC prefered to take care of everyday business.

Theres alot going on.
Aculias

I notice you mention the word "hire" to say "hire" is to imply employment, which emplys payment. I would remind you that we are not paid, we are volunteers, we were not "hired". Would new RELIABLE volunteers be a great thing, sure they would. But you forgot that they have to be TRUSTED and RESPECTED by the players and by Admin, including Ves. That narrows the pool immensely and most that would fit in that category don't want the job. Oh and for the record, both Kitten and I HAVE access to the WHOLE MAH site not just one side or the other. What we don't always have access to is the reports. I don't have access to the reports for Natives. Kitt has access to all the reports but I have asked her not to do updates, on clans in particular, because she can not handle the way I have things organized. In specific reference to HC, Bpanik2 is VERY tough on game cheats, trust me I get to read his boot mails, lol. Has he been around less, yes, but he still responds to things sent in. Does he miss some things because he isn't in the zone 24/7, possibly, but he was the only one willing to take the job when Motor stepped down and then only at my BEGGING request. There have been a few that have volunteered, on the boards, but NO ONE has sent an email in stating their application for the job. I'm SURE BP would be more then happy to be just a member of HC or just a player but to be honest no one with the qualifications has stepped up via email, heck no one has emailed. What does that tell you?
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Upon realizing that WW had attractive subtourneys and a solid administration (being Azure LOL) people started to play more and more for WW instead of playing for MAH (which didn’t handle there internal problems well enough).

Ofcourse we all know off personal problems of Kitten and some of Raven (who stays mostly in the background). And although the reasons given by the admins are all valid ones, people in a tourney don’t really care when it effects the tourney they spend COUNTLESS hours in.

Hexa

Admittedly Kitten and I had problems in the beginning but we have them all hashed out and have had for a long time. Since the summer at least, we get a long fine now.

As for Raven staying mostly in the background, that's because well one, it's really none of anyone's business what goes on in my life. I have offered up a little more recently but I remain mostly a private person. and 2) I don't feel the need to go into the zone and pour out my problems. I don't need sympathy from others, so I don't look for it. I have a good support system of friends that know what goes on with me, but they know because they care and ask, not because I just spew it out there. AND I stay in the background largely because I just do my job when and if I can. I don't feel the need to come and socialize for hours on end and most of the time don't have time to do so. When I had the time, I did so, but most of the time it's not an option. BUT, IF you see me in the zone, guaranteed everything is updated, because my job as administrator comes FIRST.
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Also, for the record, I got along with Motor and Andi just fine. We worked together VERY WELL as a team and that is the main reason they, for the most part, don't bash me. They worked closely with me and know me and know what I have been willing to go through and do for the sake of the tournament. They don't always understand it, but they respect it and me. At the time that they worked on the site, then knew me to be very diligent and reliable. Now I openly admit that I have been less so recently, but that's been VERY recent and I have been VERY honest about it (still no volunteers). I only posted this last part because I know that some (balcough) wonder why the bashing, particularly by them, is only directed at Kitten and I thought it should be addressed.
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Aculias
Aculias


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted January 21, 2004 08:32 PM

Opps my bad I said hire lol.
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tewilligar
tewilligar


Famous Hero
Just another willigar
posted January 22, 2004 02:08 AM

tosss toss toss toss


just trying to get my post count up,its about the only thing worth anything around these parts
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madmartigan
madmartigan


Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
who will never walk alone
posted January 22, 2004 02:54 PM

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?1FID=11&TID=6757&pagenumber=1

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?FID=11&TID=6743&pagenumber=1  

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?FID=11&TID=6858

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?FID=11&TID=7857&pagenumber=1

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?FID=11&TID=7681&pagenumber=1

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?FID=11&TID=8231

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?FID=11&TID=8965&pagenumber=1


all talk no action
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SapphireRavyn
SapphireRavyn


Promising
Famous Hero
Bird of Extreme Patience
posted January 22, 2004 08:53 PM

Quote:
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?1FID=11&TID=6757&pagenumber=1

I'm not sure why this one is there, it's a year and half old and most of the suggestions in it were put into place when Motor came on board, many of them stopped when he left as well.

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?FID=11&TID=6743&pagenumber=1  

Same goes for this one.

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?FID=11&TID=6858

And this one. Although I see what you are getting at with the news, it has been very unreliably updated lately.

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?FID=11&TID=7857&pagenumber=1

Not sure the reasoning here either. I made the suggested changes to Clans and both Random Challenge and Natives have been run since that time.

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?FID=11&TID=7681&pagenumber=1

Here are you trying to say that we should try to do that diplo tourney? I don't have time to run another one with Clans and Warlords and Ultimate Warlord, but if you or someone else (like maybe Hexa) is willing to volunteer to do the setup and the updates, I don't have a problem with it, email me.

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?FID=11&TID=8231

ToH/MaH maps are posted as we get them. I'm not much of a mapmaker, or so I've been told and most of the mapmakers aren't around anymore. So what action was I supposed to take here?

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?FID=11&TID=8965&pagenumber=1

This thread gets to a lot of the "meat" of the problems. I have always known and admitted that, what you don't undestand is that it was not and is not in my power to change.

all talk no action

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Aculias
Aculias


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted January 22, 2004 08:56 PM

In seriousness Ravyn I think you may have to depend on a noob here to volunteer thats devoted to MAH.
Maybe theres still some you may know here online.
I fear Tew & I were right & it's a little too late after a 2 yrs of trying.
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SapphireRavyn
SapphireRavyn


Promising
Famous Hero
Bird of Extreme Patience
posted January 22, 2004 09:08 PM

For Heaven's Sake Acu, don't talk in riddles. You and I both know that you are referring to yourself.
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Aculias
Aculias


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted January 22, 2004 09:13 PM

WHat I was saying is try asking a noob that plays all the time in MAH, he may prove really good or she.
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