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Sir_Stiven
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Legendary Hero
banned
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posted February 08, 2004 12:29 AM |
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nope, im not playing stronghold every time lol. Though i find stronghold a funny town to play there are still others i like more.
But many of the barbarians makes good main heroes in lack of a hero with no good hero spec as barbarians usually develop good attributes.
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hamsi128
Promising
Supreme Hero
tosser tavern owner
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posted February 08, 2004 11:30 PM |
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you dont need to use barbarian heroes only in stronghold... crag hack rocks with castle or orrin is best hero for tower etc..
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted February 09, 2004 03:00 PM |
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OK. Listen to this. I was Isra lv 16 with exp. necro and necro amplif. I attacked hobgoblins (about throng) and got back about 55 % skelis. So how did I now get 55 %, and the first time when I was experianced and attacked stronger troops got only 45 % skelis back?
OK, normaly it will be like this:
Isra gets 5% bonus on his necro skill with every level he reaches.
So he is expert necro ---> 30%
5% bonus * 16 (Level 16) --> 80%
80% of 30% --> 24%
In summary this makes 54%
Now the amplifier brings 10% ---> all in all 64% necroskill for ISRA.
Now he kills 100 hobgoblins
Summary of the hitpoints --> 5*100 = 500 hitpoints
64% of 500 hitpoints = 320 hitpoints
1 skeleton has 6 hitpoints
320 / 6 = 53,333
So normaly you get 53 skeletons with Isra Lv 16 and amplifier when fighting against 100 hobgoblins.
I hope this was the correct math for this (xarfax please correct me if i´m wrong...).
Now you can calculate every fight before you start...
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krule
Hired Hero
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posted February 13, 2004 10:31 AM |
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OK. Angelito , calculate then how many skelis shuld I get back if I am isra lv. 19 ... , and killed 100 demons?
I know I got 45 skelis back.
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Slušaj mater!
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krule
Hired Hero
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posted February 13, 2004 10:33 AM |
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OK. Angelito , calculate then how many skelis shuld I get back if I am isra lv. 19 ... , and killed 100 demons?
I know I got 45 skelis back.
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Slušaj mater!
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Pig
Disgraceful
Known Hero
unstopable
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posted February 13, 2004 12:02 PM |
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Its right, Isra's necro skill would be 30+(0.05 * 19) ~ 45%
so , 45 skels for 100 demons
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furryeifle
Tavern Dweller
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posted February 14, 2004 09:26 PM |
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The way i understand necromancy (as i imagine most of you do) is the necromancy % is applied to the total number of enemies killed. That number of skeles is raised provided that total the number of hps of the raised stack is not greater than the total hps of the killed stack.
Well, a lvl 19 isra should've pulled 30%+19*5% skeles, which would've made out to be almost 60% (58.5). The only reason I can think of why you'd only raise 45% of the demons you killed is as follows:
One thing I noticed when I was doing some testing of the effectiveness of isra's special is that even fighting the same number/same type of troops even w/o gaining a lvl, the number of skeletons raised would vary (they were fighting armies of 100 skeles each time). I noticed that those times when i raised less skeles were generall the times when the skeles were split into more stacks. (the 100 skeles were in 1, 2, or 3 stacks each time).
The times when they fought 3 stacks galthran (who i used as my control group) would only get 49 skeles back even w/ 1 amplifier and the cowl (50% necromancy), and 50 any other time. This leads me to believe that skeles are converted from each stack (in the case of 3 stacks, 34, 33, 33 would be raised as 17, 16, 16 as they are rounded down each time or 49 skeles). I imagine with the numbers right this could explain the dip. Isra seemed to vary more as much as 2-3 skeles per 100 skeles fought (w/o changing lvl and therefore necromancy %), and I would assume this was b/c the odd percentages of necromancy he was dealing in, it was a lot easier to lose more in the fractions. I still don't think that adequately describes the loss you saw, but it could explain part of it at least, especially if the demons were split into 7 stacks or so.
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