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Heroes Community > Other Games Exist Too > Thread: Disciples 1 & 2
Thread: Disciples 1 & 2 This thread is 2 pages long: 1 2 · «PREV
blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted March 19, 2018 06:04 PM
Edited by blob2 at 18:06, 19 Mar 2018.

Ah, it brings me back...

Disciples franchise, especially the second part, are TBS games that I treat as second only to HoMM franchise. Great atmosphere, interesting unit/leader progress system and nice setting in a dark fantasy world where 4 core factions (and later added Elves) fight in the name of their gods. While basic army builds were pretty similair, later you could build customized armies (you even could make an all-ranged build, or all-mage build), and each faction had some special characteristic abilities. Human "Empire" had healing and ressurection while Dwarves (Mountain Clans) boosted their strength. Undead were about lifeasteal, poison/paralyze and physical immunity, and Demons fire and polymorph (of course there were more distinctions). The game has some really cool & uniqe unit designs and incredible sound. It had some balancing issues, but it was super-fun nevertheless, even if a bit repetetive over time.

Unfortunately they blew it with the third entry because an underbudgeted company took it over, and they released a buggy mess. Even after it was re-released with enchancments (it was called Reincarnation) it still was bad and didn't turn profit, especially beacause fans were especially dissapointed with it (and it was still a niche franchise). Boring as hell, overly stretched (completing even one map took what seemed to be an eternity, not to mention how long it took to upgrade your units) and they took the games's best element: "static" (units stayed in place and only exchanged blows, but it's deeper then you might think) battles in favor of a HoMM-like hex system. It was also lacking one of it's four core factions- Mountain Clans (Undead were added in an expansion). They wanted to make an expansion with MC but it didn't go well and it was scrapped. I belive some fans even tried to back it up but with no avail, while the company bankrupted, burying the franchise in the ravages of time. It's actually even more of a tragic story then with Ubi taking over M&M...


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Kotix
Kotix

Tavern Dweller
posted May 16, 2018 01:52 AM

Check out my super Disciples 2 town builder right in your browser =)
It wasn't hard to make because almost all png files were made properly for this case.

If HOMM (any part) stores building images like D2 images then we can make HOMM town builder.

https://github.com/s-pyadyshev/disciples-site
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verriker
verriker


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We don't need another 'eroes
posted May 16, 2018 02:05 AM

Kotix said:
If HOMM (any part) stores building images like D2 images then we can make HOMM town builder.


for sure not but there are means and ways to discover where the coordinates of each image are layered in the game cheers lol
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Supreme Hero
posted August 06, 2019 06:38 PM

Few days ago new demo of huge Disciples 2: The Rise of Elves mod was released. Nevendaar Chronicles: Herald of Darkness demo 3.0 (my translation) contains many new graphics, units, features and more. For now only in polish language, but you can google translate this page to see what authors manage to add/alter.
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Blake00
Blake00


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posted August 24, 2019 11:37 AM

LarkinVB said:
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I really like D2, and really hate that they destroyed the series with D3, even with not that good balance in D2, it was still amazing compared to that pile of crap called D3.


D3 Reincarnation is a pretty good game, at least better than H6 ... but this does not mean much. I rate it 7 of 10 and 8 of 10 with my mod .


Thanks good to know as I still haven't played D3 yet. I got the Reincarnation version on steam and hoped it would be playable. Certainly looks beautiful even by todays standards.

I always loved the dark gothic art style of the Disciples games.
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blob2
blob2


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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted August 24, 2019 02:20 PM

Blake00 said:
Thanks good to know as I still haven't played D3 yet. I got the Reincarnation version on steam and hoped it would be playable. Certainly looks beautiful even by todays standards.


Yeah, from the aesthetic standpoint the game looks pretty great (atmosphere, art, music). But many thing bogged it down. It was boring as hell (I didn't even finish the second campaign mission), they turned the battle system into a Heroes 3 clone which does not suit this game (it's battles were one of the unique elements of the series, even if many people call them static and repetetive), and you needed multiple level ups to even upgrade your units. It was incredibly slow paced, even for a TBS game. That and the fact they missed on Mountain Clans, plus did nothing in terms of reinventing the unit evolution paths. Where it could get innovative it didn't (outside of changing the battle system, which didn't do well for me) and some things it did like D2 but worse...

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