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Thread: Sylvan
Lich_King
Lich_King


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Supreme Hero
posted September 29, 2005 06:40 PM
Edited By: Lich_King on 29 Sep 2005

Sylvan

Sylvan




Introduction:

“We dance to the rhythm of the world”

Aka: The Wood Elves
Associated colors: green and brown
Worship: Sylanna, the Dragon of Earth, Nature’s Great
Core philosophy: “Live and let live… in harmony”
Country / kingdom: Irollan, the forest maze
Capital city: Shataqua “New Green”
Key symbols: tree leave, feather, “triskel” rune


Description:

Swift as the wind, graceful as the stream, strong as the waterfall, wise as the oak… At one with nature…

Sylvans are graceful and patient souls who live in close harmony with the earth. Distrustful of machinery and cities, they keep to their ancient ways and ally with others only rarely.

The sylvan society is built around several people that all experience a symbiotic relationship, making the Sylvan realm a very united nation.
Along with the elves (druids, hunters, warriors) live wild legendary beasts (Direwolves, Unicorns, Treants…), and Faeries (Sprites, Pixies…).


Brief History:

The Origins

> ASHA, the Primordial Dragon of Order creates the world by giving it shape and purpose.
She then gives birth to the Elemental Dragons who are destined to guide and rule her creation.
The mortal races are created as “servants of the Dragon Gods”, and placed upon the earth. Each chooses its gift and its patron.
The quiet and meditative Elves choose SYLANNA, the Dragon of Earth.

> Elder Wars – The Angels launch a crusade on the Faceless. The destruction is terrible, and the elder races suffer tremendously. Early Elf civilizations and kingdoms are destroyed.
The Primordial Dragons become myths and are slowly forgotten. Only the Elemental Dragons are worshipped.

The Modern Age

> 28-40 YSD: Wars of Fire
- First great demon incursion.

Until the Wars of Fire, little is known of the elves. It was they, however, who first summoned forth the other races to do battle against the demon armies, and many of the great generals of that war were elves. It is the elves who held the line against the last demon assault as the Seventh Dragon prepared his final spell, not that men remember this now.

> 50-260 YSD: The Years of Healing – creation of Irollan

Reconstruction from the Wars of Fire and relatively harmonious relations between the races.
Great swaths of the elven forests were burned away by the demons, scarring the land and poisoning the waters. Once the fighting was over, the elves retreated to their wounded land and spent the Years of Healing restoring it, planting new groves, cleansing the waters, and expelling the slightest bit of demon taint from their lands.
Thus was created the Elven kingdom of Irollan.

> 528 YSD: Tuidhana’s secession

His head turned by a band of flatterers, the third Elf king, Arniel decided that elvish power was too decentralized, and the method of choosing a High King too random. Instead, central power was needed to go with a hereditary monarchy. While many objected to this, only Tuidhana, Queen of a tiny realm which sat on the border with the Falcon Empire, chose to act and declared her independence.

> 540 YSD: War of the Bitter Ashes – birth of the Dark Elves

The Knights of the Holy Falcon Empire, for their part, saw an opportunity. They marched in force on Tuidhana’s borders. She appealed to Arniel for assistance, but her messengers were turned away from the High King’s court unheard.
“She stands alone, let her fight alone,” was Arniel’s decree, and it was not until humans had nearly overrun all of Tuidhana’s realm before he finally acted.
With Tuidhana sufficiently humbled (or so he thought), Arniel marched his forces to the border and engaged the Human armies in the so-called War of Ashes. Neither side paid much heed to the elves whose lands they fought over.
Desperate to protect her people, Tuidhana turned to other allies. As her lands were burned and her subjects killed, she made a pact with one of the few surviving Faceless, rumoured to have long since been driven extinct. If she would turn herself and her people to the worship of Malassa, the Dragon of Darkness, then the Faceless would grant her the power she wanted.
Tuidhana made the bargain, and the Dark Elves were thus created from the surviving elves of her kingdom. Both elves and humans were expelled from the contested terrain, and Tuidhana reaffirmed her independence. An uneasy peace settled between Elves and the Dark Elves.

> 566 YSD: Day of the Tears of Fire – death of Tuidhana

A massive fire burns down the Elven capital. The High King Arniel dies in the flames with most of his court. Brythigga, the Mother of Trees, sacred to the Elves, is also consumed by the fire, leaving a blackened scar on the earth where nothing would ever grow again. The loss is devastating.
The Dark Elves are blamed and given an offer of exile or death by Arniel’s son, Vaniel. Most chose exile; the rest are hunted down and destroyed without mercy. Tuidhana remains with her lands and is killed.
The place where Brythigga had stood was stricken from the maps, and to this day no elf will go there. Another Mother of Trees has been consecrated, hidden deep within the forests, but no Elf will speak of her to outsiders.

> 585 YSD: Discovery of Demon implication in the Day of the Tears of Fire

Dragon Knights bring evidence to the Elves that Brythigga’s criminal fire was set by a Demon spy.
Emissaries are sent from the forest to the wandering Dark Elves, offering amnesty and inviting them to return home. The offer is refused.

> 756 YSD: Death of Vaniel

Vaniel is succeeded by king Alaron, whose eye is turned outward from the forest. Slowly, he re-establishes stronger contacts with the other races.
Alaron provided aid to the Wizards of the Silver Cities in their wars against the Necromancers, and encouraged traders to come to the elven borders.

> 951 YSD: 5th Eclipse - War of the Gray Alliance

Alaron leads the Elven armies out of the forest to join the Haven Knights and the Wizards of the Silver-cities in the ill-fated Gray Alliance.
The Demon horde is finally defeated, but at a terrible cost for the Alliance.






Creatures:

Pixie > Sprite



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The Pixies are the guardian spirits of the Kersyls, the giants trees that host the Sylvan cities. They live in their branches in a close symbiotic relationship. These creatures are not dedicated to war, but they will fiercely defend their home despite their relative weakness. With them on battlefield, the enemy will have to deal with swarms of winged creatures.


Blade Dancer > War Dancer



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The Blade Dancers are the core of the Sylvan infantry. These elves have been trained since their early childhood in the secret martial art of their faction, which is essentially based on evasion and quick action rather than brute force. They wear no armor, and are therefore exposed to enemy strikes. Thanks to their superior initiative and speed, the blade dancers are an essential part of any offensive strategy.


Hunter > Master Hunter



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In peace time, the Hunters supply the Sylvan communities, and they are respected as such. Wandering Irollan, they live in harmony with Nature and its unwritten laws. They will never kill a living being if without purpose. However in war time the hunters become deadly, fast, shooters.


Druid > Elder Druid



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The druids are the priests of Sylanna, the primordial dragon of Earth, embodiment of Nature. As such they have access to the secrets kept within their caste. They may also be considered as the “wizards” of the Sylvan faction. Sylanna’s blessing allow them to master elemental spells and direct the wrath of nature upon their opponents, or fortify their own troops. However their basic magical attack is devastating as well.


Unicorn > Silver Unicorn



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The Unicorns are spirits of nature, and as such they are sacred to the Sylvans who respect them as reincarnations of the Ancients. They are considered as a totem animal for the whole faction, and it is said that when the last Unicorn will die so will the Sylvan faction and all its people.  Actually the Unicorns have indeed the ability to shield nearby troops on the battlefield from hostile spells.


Treant > Ancient Treant



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The Treants are the heavy infantry amongst the Sylvan troops. These huge, slow animated trees are the toughest creatures in Irollan. It is said that Treants breed from the proximity of elfs: they would access a superior state of consciousness thanks to the close relationship the elfs have developed with Nature. They are consequently faithful servants of the Sylvan cause.


Geen Dragon > Emerald Dragon



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The Green Dragons are the incarnations of Sylanna, the Primodral Dragon of Earth. These huge creatures are powerfully linked to earth and are therefore protected against any fire-based attack. On top of that they are surrounded by a powerful vital aura that will deal damages to any attacking enemy unit.
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Lord_Crusader
Lord_Crusader


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posted September 29, 2005 06:49 PM
Edited By: Lord_Crusader on 29 Sep 2005

also we can find some new screenshoots on the official webpage






the last pic is in low quality... I think I like the unicorn I don't know why but I like it
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vladpopescu79
vladpopescu79


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a vampire of taste
posted September 29, 2005 06:59 PM

OK, a couple of words about the creatures, which happen to assembly in probably the best allignment so far.
First, a quick remark: anime is inthere again, blah... The pixie (soory about names, I may call them by their H2, 3 names) was perfect from toes to neck, then comes the face... if it was for a regular human face I would have awarded top mark for the design.

The war dancer, hunter and the druid are very good. Nothing to change, but I expect the elder druid to be really elder, not only gray hair. Very good marks too.

Unicorn: now this is a poor design. It look just like my niece lost her "Little Poney" in the designer sketches. Horrible sweet anime at peak level. 2/10 (1 for color and 1 for hair over hoofs). If the unupgraded is golden I take back one point.

treant: nice. They don't have binding ability anymore? Or something else? A little bit schematic though, more branches would look good on it.

Dragon: very good. It looks like most atistic resources went into the dragons in this game. Too bad they ran out of them at lower levels...



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draco
draco


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Famous Hero
posted September 29, 2005 07:28 PM

I like the look of all the troops especially the Dragon though, and I like the anime style face of the pixie, if you can call it that, her face is so small its hard to tell. and in game when its shrunk down another 10 times, you wont even notice she has a face.

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this_other_guy
this_other_guy


Famous Hero
{0_o} heh...
posted September 29, 2005 07:30 PM
Edited By: this_other_guy on 29 Sep 2005

By far the best faction in homm5, these creatures looks as good in-game as in the concept art. Perhaps also the most anime influenced town... but i don't have much against it . The elven units are standouts, although i think the sprite looks too big relative to the other creatures on the battlefield. The flower ring around the unicorn is so pansy lol... the upgrade (i presume) with the feathers and tatoos are much better. The green dragon also imo is the best dragon unit to date. The treeant looks kinda cheesy with the pieces of bark hanging around but its upgrade (the tattooed celery stick) is aot better.

EDIT: Just noticed that alot of the creature names have been changed from those in the Academy and Sylvan creature list thread... The upgrade of the unicorn is the silver unicorn, so does is mean that "my little pony" (ty vlad ) is infact an upgrade?



Surely it is the unicorn in the first pic that looks tougher!
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karminax
karminax


Hired Hero
posted September 29, 2005 08:06 PM

Very nice!

Sprite: (8/10) Not as perfect as H3 though; too big, too much plants around, and too much clothes

War Dancer: (8/10) The model's much better than the concept art, I can even live with the feathers on his arms, because it's a symbol for the faction in general, and for quick, light movement in particular.

Hunter: (9/10) Nearly perfect, but I can't tell if it's male or female, and I don't like that.

Dendroid: (6/10) Looks more like a constructed robot to me than a tree that came alive. The concept art of the Soldier is more promising (as already mentioned).

Druid: (7/10) Quite consistently designed and no annoying details...but nonetheless I personally don't really like him, because (a) it's an exact copy from H4 (or was it Age of Wonders?) and (b) I love the female MM6+ Druids.

Unicorn: (4/10) Oh great, red roses. How cute. I wonder if they cut off the thorns before enchaining the poor animal with them. Furthermore, on the last screenshot the rearing unicorn looks exactly like a dog begging for food.

Dragon: (10/10) *WOW* maybe the best H5 model so far! (Only that we don't know the model yet, only the concept art...)

(BTW, screenshots & summary are definitely not yet up on the official site. Where is it leaked from?)

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Lich_King
Lich_King


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posted September 29, 2005 08:11 PM

No this info is not leaked. Screenshots are ON official site and the site is not upgraded because the person who looks after the site is on vacation.
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Lord_Crusader
Lord_Crusader


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UHU!! supreme!
posted September 29, 2005 11:22 PM

also you can find this info the official heroes V site in nival the russian version so is not leaked
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Daystar
Daystar


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Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
posted September 29, 2005 11:43 PM

Ratings:

Pixie: 2/10
ARG!  WILL YOU PUT SOME BLOODY LEAVES ON AT THE VERY LEAST?  btw, does she have starfish in her hair?

Blade Dancer: 7/10
Not bad, but very angry looking.  I still do not understand the lightsaber, but oh well mabey it's just one of those things.
One of what thinings?
One of those Elves-from-mideval-swords-and-bow-and-arrow-time-with-a-light-saber things? (If you watch Gilligan's Island you will get that joke.)

Hunter: 8/10
Not bad, though the name is rather unoriginal.  I realy like the "Dont mess with me" look on his face, and i am glad they changed his outfit.

Druid: 9/10
GOOD! this unit is very good, though odly over dressed. Cant wait to see attack!

Unicorn: 9/10
I like this version.  it has quite a bit of wild beuty in it, which has sometimes been missing.  then again, anything would be better than the nightmare that was Heroes 4.

Treant: 3/10
Disapointment, though the bark sheilds are good.

Green dragon: !000000000000000000!/10
My FAVORITE UNIT IS BACK! YESS!!!!!! . it looks excelent, with those scales and that fin! the wings are good to!
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Bastich
Bastich


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Architect of Aggression
posted October 01, 2005 08:59 PM

That on the picture is the Emerald Dragon, right? Not too bad. I don't like the Ent... um, right, Treant being 6th level unit. And does he whittles those stakes on his hands all by himself? I guess the art director's little doughter did the unicorn. I'm surprised it ain't pink. The Blade Dancer looks gay. Infact the only half-naked male unit I could stand is a Wookie. I mean, why end it with the lightsaber, we've already been through D&D and Warhammer anyway.
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BenchBreaker
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Hired Hero
516 broken so far
posted October 01, 2005 09:40 PM

why do i sense so much homophobia in the forum. we are talking about elves here, they'll always look gay. what's wrong with a naked torso, i thinks it actually give him some attitude, like those tribal warriors in the past who choose to wear nothing into battle, no intimidate their opponets.
and what's with all the mention of light sabres, apart from the slight glow, they look nothing like light sabres; it has a distinct blade shape, not a tube of light and if you look carefully, you'll see that there are markings on the "beam of light".
i hope they get cool abilities like evade missile or evade counter or first counter or double counter or something. i get the feeling that these elves will not like to initiate attacks, but if you try to attack them and expose youself, you'll get ripped apart.

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Bastich
Bastich


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Architect of Aggression
posted October 02, 2005 10:29 AM

I'm totaly fine with the Hunter and Druid, but that guy looks like a stripper. Give him some short, atleast. And I can't understand why are everybody whinning about the Sprite, Shadow Witch and the other half-naked females, but everyone's coll with a half-naked man. Why the double standart? Yeah, I know mine's one to, but that's not the point.
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Thorin
Thorin


Adventuring Hero
posted October 02, 2005 12:44 PM

my opinion

The sprites look to..ferocious.iAbout those Dancers,they look ood,but their names!!! As i said,i do't llike the Unicoern,the druid is cool,also is the Treant.The Dragon looks good.A pretty good faction,i think.
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Vlaad
Vlaad


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Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
posted October 29, 2005 09:41 AM

Sylvan town screen

ftp://ftp.nival.com/pub/homm5/screenshot/homm5_shot40.jpg

Not really impressive, though... I wonder what it looks like when zoomed out.

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this_other_guy
this_other_guy


Famous Hero
{0_o} heh...
posted October 29, 2005 04:11 PM

The buildings underneath the large tree does not have a suitable appearance imo... should have included more wooden buildings like those inside the homm3 rampart rather than the present stone construction.
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Daystar
Daystar


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Back from the Dead
posted October 30, 2005 01:20 AM
Edited By: Daystar on 16 Nov 2005

it looks a bit oriental.  could somone at Nival tell them to lose the screenshots of the towns we know, and put in the acadamy?

Never mind.
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Moriquendi
Moriquendi

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posted November 10, 2005 04:50 PM
Edited By: Moriquendi on 10 Nov 2005

I think this will become my favourite team, which it already is actually... in Heroes of Might And Magic III and IV, Rampart and Nature were my facourite teams. Sylvan even have a cool symbol^^

I like all the creatures this time, the sprite is different, but I think it is a bit cool=)

The unicorn does look better than the one in Heroes of Might and Magic IV, but it doesn't reach ut to the one in Heroes of Might and Magic III. But I think it looks okay, fitting in the nature.

Looking forward to this^^
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LordTitan
LordTitan


Famous Hero
Hit Dice: 76d12+608 HP
posted November 19, 2005 12:38 AM
Edited by alcibiades at 11:22, 06 Jul 2009.

Nice!

The drawings are nicely done, but oddly enough the look familiar.
My compliments to the dragon though, high quality stuff there.
However the treant looks like a wood-golem.
Nice overall though



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