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katarraktis
katarraktis


Hired Hero
A Greek semi-god
posted March 21, 2006 10:35 AM
Edited by katarraktis on 22 Mar 2006

what are the things you love and hate in HOMM4?
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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


Legendary Hero
TPFKADD
posted August 29, 2006 11:21 AM

A thing that I hate is that the city hall only gives 100 gold per day,so money is really a thing u can't have in large numbers in this game.Another thing I hate is that the Citadel and Castle are quite expensive and are useless,not like in h3.Another thing I hate is the removal of the elemental magic [ex: in h3,you had the haste spell.If ur hero had expert air magic he could cast mass haste].And why did  they make idividual spells for each town type? I hated the fact that none of the creatures can be upgraded and u have to choose which creature dwelling should u build.
Things that I liked[NOT loved]: In a stack of neutral creatures u can find two or more different creature stacks
Heroes now fight instead of sitting on their horses casting spells

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Aculias
Aculias


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted August 29, 2006 11:22 AM

Lets see I hate well everythang about heroes 4.
The game is crap.
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SoRHunter
SoRHunter


Hired Hero
posted September 12, 2006 03:08 PM
Edited by SoRHunter at 15:10, 12 Sep 2006.

Quote:
Drakon-Deus
A thing that I hate is that the city hall only gives 100 gold per day,so money is really a thing u can't have in large numbers in this game.Another thing I hate is that the Citadel and Castle are quite expensive and are useless,not like in h3.Another thing I hate is the removal of the elemental magic [ex: in h3,you had the haste spell.If ur hero had expert air magic he could cast mass haste].And why did  they make idividual spells for each town type? I hated the fact that none of the creatures can be upgraded and u have to choose which creature dwelling should u build.
Things that I liked[NOT loved]: In a stack of neutral creatures u can find two or more different creature stacks
Heroes now fight instead of sitting on their horses casting spells


The City Hall gives 1000 Gold (not 100!). And you can lots of money by selling your extra resources and carefully planning in advance what strutures to build and what creatures to recruit. Gold Mines can also help you amass a large treasure. But why do you need that much money?

The citadel is not very useful (it is almost for pre-requisites only),  but the castle gives three towers to put your archers (the enemy only gives 1/8 of the regular damage from the starting position on the battlefield while the defender's archers do full damage). And it makes the cities look cooler.

I really love the Magical Schools. Instead of having to master an element (or several) you only need to master the school. Each one has its powers and weeknesses, but every heroe can get spells from 3 different schools at his castle (except the barbarians: no magic at all!).

Another thing I love is the new heroes: insted of only having one in each army, we could get seven of them (or none at all ). It would not be a good strategy, but it is up to the player to choose. And we could choose whichever hero we wanted at all times!

No more upgrading! Instead, players would have to choose between two creatures, according to one's personal preferences or to counter a given enemy.

Things I didn't like: prior to the patches, there was no shadow movement on the battlefield. For the ones used to the Heroes 3's (or previous) grafics, the forth installment felt somewhat weird. To me, the greatest flaw is the music (it is only average).


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Aculias
Lets see I hate well everythang about heroes 4.
The game is crap.

You should try to play Heroes 4 and not an upgraded version of Heroes 3. Guess what: you may change your opinion!
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CTPAHHuK
CTPAHHuK


Adventuring Hero
krs.83@mail.ru
posted September 16, 2006 12:56 PM
Edited by CTPAHHuK at 12:56, 16 Sep 2006.

mb it is strange but i love on-line heroes 4 and don't like single thats only 2 things i love and don't love

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metos
metos


Known Hero
God of Shadows
posted September 24, 2006 05:40 PM
Edited by metos at 17:41, 24 Sep 2006.

Don't love:Fog of war, mix of inferno/undead, Sandro is Uncool (), Cities are empty, no elemental magic, a little bit unbalanced, just few dragons, Sea Monsters and Mermaids have no dwelling, the changing to 3D is bad, could have been made better, expansions are useless (only adds a bunch of cool creatures, that's it!!)........

Like(not love):The only dragons are cool, cities change terrain (swamp, lava etc.) grails are really balanced, some ideas are pretty cool

Love:Lots of them are the coolest creatures in HoMM universe, TONS of both creature and hero skills, TONS of creatures, a very strategic game, expansions bring supercool creatures (but other than that useless...), pretty enjoyable game (Everybody expected a HoMM 3 in 3D but a new game is better, as i don't like HoMM 5 much, a Heroes 3 in 3D)

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radar
radar


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
posted September 25, 2006 04:18 PM

like/love/etc. :
- mixing hero classes,
- 2 or more heroes in army,
- creatures could move without hero and vice versa,
- a lot of spells, each magic school for different faction,
- new, pretty graphic,
- new system of abilities,
- neat and foolproof interface.

things which I hate or they aren't good enough:
- non-upgraedable units,
- choosing creatures which you want to buy,
- gameplay is lower than in H3,
- chaos spells aren't dealing much damage without artefacts,
- they aren't any paladins ,
- there's no hero specialities.

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Arbaces
Arbaces

Tavern Dweller
Marcus Arbaces Alexandros I
posted September 25, 2006 06:40 PM

Yes I miss the hero classes from H4 too.

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wog_edn
wog_edn

Promising

The Nothingness
posted October 25, 2006 10:38 PM

Love some of the new things, one is more advanced map editor.

Hate the fact that it is too different, not like Heroes 3. It has a totally different consept.
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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


Legendary Hero
TPFKADD
posted November 17, 2006 01:24 PM




Quote:
Aculias
Lets see I hate well everythang about heroes 4.
The game is crap.

You should try to play Heroes 4 and not an upgraded version of Heroes 3. Guess what: you may change your opinion!

I've changed my opinion about the game.After seeing that h5 really is
crap[right?],I've returned to playig h4 and h3.3DO went down the drain and Ubisoft tried to make h5 a major hit by copying various aspects of h3 and h4.That really is crap!  
So,now I love h4 almost as much as I love h3.The skills are great,the heroes are great.Still the City Hall doesn't give you much money,and with the new growth rATE,EVEN THE GOLD MINES DON'T HELP YOU THAT MUCH.hEROES iv FEATURES MORE STRATEGY,MORE THINKING,MORE CHALLENGES.i LIKE THAT.tOO BAD 3do WENT BANKRUPT.Sorry about the typing,I got a new keyboard,and it's not a very good one.

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tenzor
tenzor


Adventuring Hero
posted November 17, 2006 06:41 PM

Good ones:

- units can move&fight without heroes
- heroes can fight (and be killed) in battle
- fog of war
- caravans
- system of unit abilities (they are transparent in contrary to HOMM3)
- required choice of creatures on lvl 2-4
- system of abilities (better than in HOMM 3)
- system of magic (better than in HOMM 3)
- towers for any creatures in towns
- stronghold is FINALLY town of might
- music (really excellent)

Bad ones:
- town walls and towers cannot be destroyed, moat cannot be built
- game is somewhat unbalanced
- vampire is underestimated by creators AGAIN
- missing heroes specs
- creatures cannot be upgraded (I don't like the system from HOMM 3&5, where all creatures have their upgrades, but upgrades of some creatures like in HOMM 2 would be fine)
- missing random maps (too bad)

I think that HOMM 4 requires some strategical abilities - while HOMM 3 can be played on good level even by monkey that have learned successful strategies for various towns. Maybe it's the reason why so many people hate HOMM 4

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BrennusWhiskey
BrennusWhiskey


Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
The quickest H4 player
posted July 08, 2009 01:17 AM

Quote:
mb it is strange but i love on-line heroes 4 and don't like single thats only 2 things i love and don't love


mb it is strange but I have the same feelings. Still...

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xlnt
xlnt


Known Hero
posted July 08, 2009 10:14 AM

Quote:
Good ones:

- units can move&fight without heroes

- fog of war
- caravans
- system of unit abilities (they are transparent in contrary to HOMM3)
- required choice of creatures on lvl 2-4
- system of abilities (better than in HOMM 3)
- system of magic (better than in HOMM 3)


- music (really excellent)

Bad ones:

- game is somewhat unbalanced
- vampire is underestimated by creators AGAIN
- missing heroes specs
- creatures cannot be upgraded (I don't like the system from HOMM 3&5, where all creatures have their upgrades, but upgrades of some creatures like in HOMM 2 would be fine)
- missing random maps (too bad)



An awful map set and a dull play.
The battles take long and are repetitive.
Really dumb movement rules. Some creatures are extremely slow on the map - not compensated in any way.
Dumb arties - makes the strong stronger, but unlike HoMM3 the line ups here are short, so this destroys the low lvl creatures.
and so on...

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Lord_Immortal
Lord_Immortal


Famous Hero
posted July 15, 2009 11:03 AM

I like Heroes IV(complete only).Here are the things I like and hate:
I Like:
1)At Sylvan(Nature) elementals and other beasts can be recruited.
2)The game allows you to choose betwen 2 creature dwellings making towns of the same alignments sometimes much different from each-other.
3)FINALY!!!!!!Creatures can wander throught the map.
4)FINALY!!!!!!Heroes can fight and u can find many heroes in same army.
5)FINALY!!!!!!In neutral stacks u can find many creatures.
6)FINALY!!!!!!Siege machines can be used as normal units.
7)Units can climb into towers.
I Hate:
1)NO UPGRADES!!!!!!!!!
2)AGAIN NO DWARVEN TOWN!!!!!!!!
3)ONLY 1 type of Golem!!!!!!!!!
4)Necropolis and Inferno are combined!!!
5)Only 4 unit tiers.

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Svindal
Svindal

Tavern Dweller
posted July 17, 2009 11:43 PM

Updates & Patches

Quote:
what are the things you love and hate in HOMM4?


I Hate that I have a version that I cant play Multiplayer, and that I dont know where I can get the Updates / Patches to solve it. I have heared I need. 1.0 to 1.3 and 1.3 to 2.0 and 2.0 to 2.2 and 2.2 to 3.0. Anyone know where I can get them?
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Cepheus
Cepheus


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted July 17, 2009 11:49 PM
Edited by Cepheus at 23:49, 17 Jul 2009.

Here be the H4 patch list.

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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted July 19, 2009 05:18 PM

What's wrong with no upgrades? I always thought the upgrade system was plain BS. Waste of time, waste of resources, and nobody wants non-upgraded units 99% of the time, so they are a waste of space. I'd rather see more neutral units rather then same units recolored and tuned up to be useful.

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Ignis
Ignis


Hired Hero
posted September 27, 2009 04:06 PM

i didnt use to like h4 and i gave it a chance and know i like it alot,i dont i have anything to hate about it
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gnollking
gnollking


Supreme Hero
Supreme Hero
posted September 27, 2009 08:44 PM
Edited by gnollking at 20:53, 27 Sep 2009.

I hate everything in heroes 4 except the objects. Because I can add them to my WoG:



Also i hate that it doesn't have GNOLLS
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ohforfsake
ohforfsake


Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
posted September 29, 2009 07:26 PM

Quote:
Also i hate that it doesn't have GNOLLS


What are gnolls?

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