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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Hi!I wanna ask..
Thread: Hi!I wanna ask..
Hero
Hero

Tavern Dweller
posted July 30, 2006 09:20 AM

Hi!I wanna ask..

maybe its stupid question but i wanna ask
how to play on panic template,which hero and
castle is best,and what to do on it,like do i need
first to gather all my land res or i need to go out
of my land to take over castles and smth. and etc..
so give me answers if not too hard..
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angelito
angelito


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted July 30, 2006 04:32 PM

Read the review of that template here.
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Hero
Hero

Tavern Dweller
posted July 31, 2006 06:38 PM

thnx for it.
and few more questions =)
what do u think in panic about rampart and ivor ?
is this good combination?
and in i aobut 2 week i must go out from
my zone and go to my oponnent to try kill him?is that right?
or i must go to take some castles and then try to kill him
thnx for answers..

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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted July 31, 2006 08:39 PM

Ivor and rampart is a good and easy to play combination on panic.
No, you cant find your opponent in week 2. Late week 3 or week 4 is more likely, but playing Ivor its a good idea to try to find your opponent as fast as possible since Ivor is very strong early in the game compared to a castle player or a strongholdplayer who catches up late in the game with upgrading angels or dbl building stronghold(if he can find an exstra stronghold town) late in the game.
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Hero
Hero

Tavern Dweller
posted July 31, 2006 09:27 PM
Edited by Hero at 21:28, 31 Jul 2006.

so if i'll be a rampart with ivor i need to
catch him as fast as i can cuz in early game im
stronger but in longer game he will became stronger?
and about dbl building we are playin with rules
that if u take same castle as u have u cannot build
in that castle any monsters.
and one more question
first week im building till unicorns
second week i must build capitol and castle?
or to me is enough 2000gold/day?i dont
really know if its nesesery to build a capitol

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angelito
angelito


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proud father of a princess
posted July 31, 2006 09:45 PM

Depends on what difficulty u play and what map size (130%, 160% ?)
You should try to build Castle and Level 7 dwelling in week 2 before u build capitol. Not to sure how rich Panic is, but maybe u should go for Castle and Unicorns week 1.
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Hero
Hero

Tavern Dweller
posted August 01, 2006 04:32 PM

difficulty is 130%,map size L.
(if u wanna try panic
http://www.toheroes.com/h3maps/3-Aug-03Panic.txt)
map is very poor.i tried build it but its just
too poor map to build green dragons(i think).
to build green dragons need very much of crystals
and in that map u just cant get them.
so thats why im asking how to better play in this map

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Hero
Hero

Tavern Dweller
posted August 05, 2006 01:58 PM

hey all again!
one more question
im playin on panic template,L,130%
im with rampart.
in 1st week im building castle and unicorns
in second im tryin go for capitol(is that right?
or enough only 2000/per day?)
so
in first week i builded unicorns and castle so in
next week im buildin an army
so what should i buy?
now im buying grand elfes and centaurs as much
as money i have.so is that right?
or i need to buy unicorns?
and second question.
in second week im building capitol(if needed)
so in 3week i dont have enough money to build all my
army.so what should be best to buy with my left money?

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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted August 05, 2006 05:12 PM
Edited by maretti at 17:18, 05 Aug 2006.

Early in the game Ivor will be stronger. Later in the game the opponent has the chance to catch up but that dosent mean he will. A good tool to find your opponent is adv or exp view air on either ivor or a scout. If you also have exp view earth thats even better.

Week 1 you should build unis and castle and either grand elfs or a town hall. If you have resourceproblems a marked can be usefull too.
Day 1 you should buy 4 heroes so that you have 5 in all.

Week 2 you should defenetly go for dragons. City hall and capitol can wait, maybe you dont even need them. If you have the money upgrade and buy your unicorns and buy all your elfs. Then explore as much as possible and find the nessesary money and crystal from naga banks, treassuries etc. Its true crystal can be a problem but it should be possible to get enough most times. If you can find enough try and get as many towns as possible so that you can trade for what you need.

You especially need the war unicorns (unicorns can be used too) to take out shooters like lots elfs, lots marskmen, horde gogs, horde lizards etc. with no losses (If you are offered tactics take it, that way you can bring all your army and you can defend your elfs better in other battles). What you do is, place them in 5 or 6 groups and wait round one. Round 2 you attack the shooters and block them all but wait with the unicorn that were shot at. If a unicorn should get low hp just pull it back and let the rest finish the buisness. If you have some other shooters like archers or gogs you can bring 2 single stacks of them. Most likely the ai will take them out before they go for the unis.

Week 3 you can hopefully buy all your army at some point(normally upgrading the dragons is too expensive) and bring it to Ivor through a chain of heroes and then its just seek and destroy.
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Binabik
Binabik


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Legendary Hero
posted August 06, 2006 12:55 AM

Week 1 unicorns is your top priority. Week 1 castle is your second priority.

Unicorn and castle only takes 6 days, so you have an extra day. So the question is, what do you do with that extra day?

Usually I build town hall day 2, but not always. It depends on what my scouts see. The exceptions to day 2 town hall are:

1) If the map is poor with crystals and gems you might need to build week 1 market to trade for resources. You would probably build the market on day 4 or 5 after building elves, dendroids, citadel, and maybe castle. If you still don't have the resources for pegasi or uni, then build a market. Trading resources with only 1 market is only for emergencies.

2) If there is a guard that must be broken week 1, you might need to upgrade unis or elves week 1 to break it.

It depends on the map and the type of wondering creatures, but a lot of times I prefer upgrading uni before elves. On some maps, war unis are better for your main hero. And war unis can be split between 2-3 hereos for clearing the map. A few war unis on a scout can move fast and do a lot of map clearing if the guards aren't too strong. Sometimes only 1 uni can beat mine guards or take a town, especially if the hero has a spell book.

It's already been said that Ivor and GEs become weaker the longer the game goes. If you need an early capital, Ivor might not be the best main because the game is taking too long. So you might want to consider changing mains even if Ivor already has several levels.

For fast expansion, Ivor's best friend is mass slow. Make expert earth magic your top priority. Also Ivor's attack rating will be low, so when you have a choice pick attack over defense.

On your build order, look at the creature speed of the enemy town and map battles. Do you need early silver pegasus to get first move in map battles? If you are meeting the enemy early, can you afford to build and buy upgraded dragons? Without gold dragons, silver pegasus might give you first move, even if you only have one of them.
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