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k1ng
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posted September 26, 2006 11:32 PM bonus applied.
Edited by k1ng at 06:22, 02 Oct 2006.

Fellowship Units

Hi All,

I'd like to indroduce my new idea: Fellowship Units. What's a fellowship unit? It's a mixture of three units from a certain alignment, coming together. One normal original unit, one recolored original unit, and one new unit. It'd have same basics as the commanders. I'll be making 6 of them for now.

(I'll update below throughout the process of this project, so don't posts about asking when to put new animations.)

-Fellowship of Good (Castle)

-Fellowship of Evil (Inferno)

-Fellowship of Life (Rampart)

Standing

-Fellowship of Death (Necropolis)

Attacking Straight


Attacking Down


Defend

-Fellowship of Order (Tower)

-Fellowship of Chaos (Dungeon)

Stats will be averaged. Basicly adding their stats together (gotta come up with new stat for the new units, of course), and divide them by 3.

Example: Skeleton has 6 health, Lich has 30 health, and let's say the Ghoul has 3. So, (6+30+3)/3=13. Fellowship of Death has 13 health. Of course, if get them work like commanders, player will be able to increase their stats afterwards.

There will be more stuff related to this, but this is it for now.
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted September 27, 2006 11:40 AM

Very cool
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antipaladin
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posted September 27, 2006 12:48 PM

Very nice, A monster mob! Me liky! could be very nice lol,

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miasmicgod
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posted September 27, 2006 09:52 PM

i think this is a very good idea and thinking outside the box i like it

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TrangOul
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posted September 27, 2006 11:16 PM

Good work.
P.S. Is the ghoul stoned?

I think fellowships should have more HP than arithmetic mean of all creatures... Three monsters always are stronger than one.
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k1ng
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posted September 27, 2006 11:42 PM

Thank you all!

@Trangoul

Ghoul is not stoned, he doesn't really need motion in those two parts. I'll make him move in the Attacking Up part. He'll go'round the Skeleton and Lich, and jump at the enemy, freaky eh?

About the stats, i don't think they should be too strong if the player gets them in the first day or second.
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posted September 28, 2006 08:18 AM

k1ng, you forgot Fortress, Stronghold and Conflux
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k1ng
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posted September 28, 2006 02:04 PM

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k1ng, you forgot Fortress, Stronghold and Conflux


I'll look into those afterwards.
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metos
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posted September 28, 2006 04:17 PM

AWESOME
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Darkloke
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posted September 28, 2006 05:21 PM

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I'd like to indroduce my new idea: Fellowship Units

Yes, idea is not bad, but there is can be some troubles with releasing...

1. If you combine all units in one DEF, so you will be forced to use one single palette for all units and that is may be not enough for good quality.

2. What about monster special abilities? In your case for Rampart the dwarf has magic resistance - does that mean that in fellowship stack he loosing it? Or if some unit has another resistance/immunity?

3. Some non logic situations, for example, if you cast berserk on this stack. In theory they should fight between themselves.

And may be even more problems, that now i cannot say.

BTW, the woman unit you used for rampart fellowship is actually a Nighon warlock. You can say there is no difference, but i would prefer to preserve M&M and HMM storylines and links.

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k1ng
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posted September 28, 2006 11:39 PM
Edited by k1ng at 23:40, 28 Sep 2006.

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1. If you combine all units in one DEF, so you will be forced to use one single palette for all units and that is may be not enough for good quality.

No big deal. I'll give them the best quality possible.

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2. What about monster special abilities? In your case for Rampart the dwarf has magic resistance - does that mean that in fellowship stack he loosing it? Or if some unit has another resistance/immunity?

They will be one single unit. If the one of the unit's original version has a special ability, it'd imply for all them. In your case, i'd say that Fellowship of Rampart has magic resistance.

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3. Some non logic situations, for example, if you cast berserk on this stack. In theory they should fight between themselves

Yes, but it's in theory. Still, if a script could be created for it, i could create extra animation for the time the player casts berserk, they attack each other, and the unit loses health. I'm not sure about it though.

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BTW, the woman unit you used for rampart fellowship is actually a Nighon warlock.

There is no difference.
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posted September 29, 2006 12:05 PM

I guess that K1ng & Co. have already finished Groove project and have enough time and will to start working on Fellowship unit, right?

Hooray - I play Groove very soon!!!! (ironic)
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k1ng
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posted September 29, 2006 05:10 PM
Edited by k1ng at 03:42, 30 Sep 2006.

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I guess that K1ng & Co. have already finished Groove project and have enough time and will to start working on Fellowship unit, right?


Kinda true, we're very close at completion of Grove Town.

-> Creating creatures with more than one unit gave another idea, here's a new neutral (or simply replacement unit) i'd like to introduce:

Trainer


Walking


Attacking


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metos
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posted September 30, 2006 08:22 PM


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miasmicgod
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posted September 30, 2006 08:54 PM

i like it, it's creative and fresh

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k1ng
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posted October 01, 2006 02:49 AM

Two more parts for Trainer:


Mouse Over


Death
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vhilhu
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posted October 01, 2006 08:44 AM



a really innovative unit. not just another dragon or something. congratz.

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metos
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posted October 01, 2006 04:12 PM

Super Nice
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted October 01, 2006 04:48 PM
Edited by TitaniumAlloy at 16:50, 01 Oct 2006.

Coolest unit I've seen?

Wait..


Yep.




One thing you might be able to do that would be cool would be instead of using the whip to attack (which you didn't do, makes sense), use it after getting attacked, like as if to say "stupid dog, work harder"
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vhilhu
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posted October 01, 2006 05:30 PM

so it will look like 2 guys beating a poor lone doggy?

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