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posted April 05, 2007 08:23 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 18:11, 14 Jan 2008.

[MOD] 2nd Upgrades

As Vokial decited, in GoTP there will be no second upgrades. This means my works for this is end.

With Vokial agreement, I will relase new mod with 2nd upgrades. This masterpost will be mostly recent. I will update it, if I'll do something new.

What will be in this mod you can partly know from old GOTP threads.



aren't they preety...

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posted April 06, 2007 01:06 PM
Edited by radar at 11:15, 15 Apr 2007.

>HAVEN<

IMPERIAL ASSASSIN

Upgrade of: Marksman (tier 2)
Abilities: Shooter, Caster (Decay), Scatter shot, Poison attack



====================

SERAPH

Upgrade of: Archangel (tier 7)
Abilities: Flyer, Ressurects twice



>INFERNO<

BLOODHOUND

Upgrade of: Cerberi (tier 3)
Abilities: Three-headed attack, Pack hounter, Howl /+Gating



====================

HELL BARON

Upgrade of: Archdevil (tier 7)
Abilities: Teleport, Summon Balor twice, No enemy retaliation /+Gating



>SYLVAN<

ELEMENTALIST

Upgrade of: Elder Druid (tier 4)
Abilities: Shooter, Caster (Ice Bolt, Circle of winter, Fireball), Fire Nova (renamed explosion), Enraged



====================

FAIRY DRAGON

Upgrade of: Emerald Dragon (tier 7)
Abilities: Flyer, Caster (Lightning bolt, Meteor shower, Mass confusion)



>ACADEMY<

CRYSTAL GARGOYLE

Upgrade of: Obsydian Gargoyle (tier 2)
Abilities: Immunity to earth, Magic-proof 50%, Unlimited retaliation, Elemental, Repair x3



====================

THUNDER LORD

Upgrade of: Titan (tier 7)
Abilities: Shooter, No meele penalty, Crossfire, Call lightning (60dmg/Thunder Lord)



>DUNGEON<

SHADOW PRIESTESS

Upgrade of: Shadow Matriarch (tier 6)
Abilities: Shooter, Catser (Vulnerability, Slow, Confusion, Righteous Might, Phantom forces), enraged, Weaking strike (&shot)



====================

DARKNESS DRAGON

Upgrade of: Black Dragon (tier 7)
Abilities: Flyer, Fire Breath, Strike and return, No enemy retaliation



>NECROPOLIS<

DREAD KNIGHT

Upgrade of: Wrath (tier 6)
Abilities: Undead, Harm Touch, Hexing attack



====================

BLOOD DRAGON

Upgrade of: SPECTRAL DRAGON (tier 7)
Abilities: Flyer, Undead, Life drain



>FORTRESS<

Dwarven Nobility

Upgrade of: Blackbear Rider (tier 3)
Abilities: Unlimited retaliation, Immune to blind, Battle frenzy



====================

Plasma Dragon

Upgrade of: Magma Dragon (tier 7)
Abilities: Immuntity to fire, Fire shield, Elemental, Fire breath, Teleport





Stats soon!


Facts

1. The mod will contain upgrades of 7ths and ONE MORE, like: Deep Dragon => Black Dragon => Darness Dragon and Shadow Witch => Shadow Matriarch => Shadow Priestess, but without two creatures in-town (nedd 2 dwellings for example Horned Deamons' and Overseers');

2. Replace System will replace new upgrades for Renegade Haven units and Neutrals;

3. Due to point 2 the mod will be NOT compatible with GoTP. Maybe in futher versions I will find a way to add creatures, not replace them;

4. The mod needs HOF to work properly;

5. HOF campaign will become unplayable.

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posted April 09, 2007 11:56 AM
Edited by GenieLord at 14:59, 26 Jul 2007.

This post is extremely good. Maybe a QP?
Anyway, I don't know where to write it, because I don't see any feedback thread, and mabey there's already one, so I won't open a new one.

Now, to the subject:

1. The design of the Imperial Assassin is very nice, but you can find better name. What about Sharpshooter or Imperial Ranger? And the ability 'Poisoned Shot' doesn't fit him at all.

2. The Saraph looks to me like the regular Fallen Angel. I saw that you design a version of the Fallen Angel with black and red, and i looks great, much better than the regular Fallen Angel. Use it here.

3. Bloodhounds look excellent with those long tails.

4. Hell Baron looks cute.

5. The Elementalist looks very weird, too many colours. Basicly, what do Elementalists have to do with Sylvan? I would change this one.

6. Crystal Gargoyle looks awsome, just two things: It would be a bit strange to see ice in the desert. It suppose to melt, you know... And '3X3 Repair' ability doesn't fit him at all. Leave this one to the 3rd upgrade of Gremlin.

7. Thunder Lord is a great name. Looks a bit weird, but it's okay.

8. Shadow Priestess is nice.

9. Darkness Dragon looks awsome.

10. Blood Dragon is the perfect third upgrade for Ghost Dragon.

11. As I said (and you said it sounds good) the upgrade for Magma Dragon should be Plasma Dragon.
Really excellent work you have done here. Well done.

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posted April 09, 2007 12:01 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 12:07, 09 Apr 2007.

@Radar: About Haven, do you want another abandoned work from GotP, like the Griffin riders models, instead of the imperial assasin.

Also I have king of white Druid Elder for you.
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posted April 09, 2007 12:25 PM
Edited by radar at 14:12, 10 Apr 2007.

Quote:
This post is extremely good. Definitely worth QP.


THX GL, but it is only several pictures

Quote:
And the ability 'Poisoned Shot' doesn't fit him at all.


oh, poison doesnt suits assassin? besides the name is taken from disciples 2

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The Saraph looks to me like the regular Fallen Angel. I saw that you design a version of the Fallen Angel with black and red, and i looks great, much better than the regular Fallen Angel. Use it here.


i will try make him blue or... we will see

Quote:
3. Bloodhounds look excellent with those long tails.


it is regular cerberi, needs recolouring

Quote:
5. The Elementalist looks very weird, too many colours. Basicly, what do Elementalists have to do with Sylvan? I would change this one.


hmm, i like the colours, we will se what other will tell

elder druids' decription:

The druids are the priests of Sylanna, Elemental Dragon of Earth and living embodiment of Nature. As such they are granted control over the magic of the elements, which they call upon in times of peril.

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6. Crystal Gargoyle looks awsome, just two things: It would be a bit strange to see ice in the desert. It suppose to melt, you know... And '3X3 Repair' ability doesn't fit him at all. Leave this one to the 3rd upgrade of Gremlin.


texture is vokial work

there will be two wersions of upgrades:
with all units + 2up of 7ths
with no lvl2 or lvl1 unit in-town and 2x 2upg

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7. Thunder Lord is a great name. Looks a bit weird, but it's okay.


I'll change it. Its noty easy to find good colour for him


Quote:
11. As I said (and you said it sounds good) the upgrade for Magma Dragon should be Plasma Dragon.
Really excellent work you have done here. Well done.


oh, thx one more time


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posted April 10, 2007 03:13 PM

someone wanna help me with recolouring creatures' faces

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posted April 10, 2007 09:51 PM

I'm your guy.

Also, Can the New Fairy Dragon be a bit less monochromatic?
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posted April 11, 2007 03:00 PM

nice to see your help, Daystar

so, we need:

recoloured versions of

black dragon to --> darkness (much darker, brown; I told it because it is not so clear on pic)

druid elder --> elementalist

emerald dragon --> faerie (if you want, prepare his texture also! )

cerberi --> bloodhound (a little more red)

thunder lord I dont know, I haven't got his texture yet

death knight --> dread (black, as in pic)


all ONLY in 128x128 dds, others do not work though

thx. other you'll prepare when I'll finish the mod and send it to you

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posted April 11, 2007 09:53 PM

being rediculously useless, I cannot get to the image files.  If you could send them to me, that would work.  Or if you can tell me how, that also works.

Infact, if there is a good retexturing tutorial ANYWHERE online for HV, that would be great.
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posted April 11, 2007 10:05 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 22:07, 11 Apr 2007.

Quote:
being rediculously useless, I cannot get to the image files.  If you could send them to me, that would work.  Or if you can tell me how, that also works.

Infact, if there is a good retexturing tutorial ANYWHERE online for HV, that would be great.


The image files used by Heroes 5 are ".dds" image files. Use Photoshop to convert the images to .pds (photoshop files) and then edit them in Photoshop.

The skins are divided into several texture types. Using the Skeleton as an example:
The "skeleton.tga.dds" is the main model, which has a "skeleton_mirror.tga.dds" to edit the "shiny parts" of the model.

And then there is the adventure map model:
"skeleton_LOD-skeleton_LOD.(texture).dds", which is the same image as the "skeleton.tga.dds but with half size, 256x256 (the normal image is 512x512)

The icon files are in 4 different sizes: 32x32, 64x64, 128x128 and 55x55. The names are like: "ico_skeleton_64.dds".

You can use image in .bmp, .png, .jpg or almost every type of image, open the pics with photoshop or this tool and save it like .dds in 32 bit

There can also be more image files if the skin consists of 2 or more parts, like the Black Knight (where you have additional files for the horse and weapon).

You can edit the biggest of the two skin files first, in this case the "Skeleton.tga.dds". Made the changes, save it and then after You have saved everything, resize the image from 512x512 to 256x256 and saves the file in ".psd" file.

Convert the two files in .DDS. And then place the files in their respective folders.

P.S.

If you want to use Photoshop you need this Plug-in.

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posted April 11, 2007 10:16 PM

one last thing to end the deed: a Daystar with no illusion.  (if you don't know what the hex I'm talking about, read The Book of the Dun Cow

How do I put them into .pak files which the game then reads?
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posted April 13, 2007 05:02 PM

PLASMA DRAGON should be immune to fire or ice? *impatiently waiting for replies *

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posted April 13, 2007 05:33 PM

Plasma = Fire + Air, so Immune to Fire and Lightning.
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posted April 13, 2007 06:41 PM

Thanks, alcibiades! The plasma will have fire dragon texture recoloured to blue. he will have immunity to fire

I will release open beta early, but only with creatures avaible in Duel Mode. In-town recruict avaible only in full version

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posted April 13, 2007 06:41 PM

PLASMA DRAGON  ? After all good ideas, we gat a PLASMA DRAGON?

The Plasma is something in the blood not in the Fire!
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posted April 13, 2007 06:44 PM

Plasma is Genie Lord's idea which pleasing me. and plasma is fourth substance form, not something in blood

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posted April 13, 2007 06:47 PM
Edited by ZombieLord at 18:47, 13 Apr 2007.

Plasma is the fourth substance form, yes. FIRE is PLASMA, in case you wonder. That is plasma: very hot air (gaze)

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posted April 13, 2007 06:49 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 18:49, 13 Apr 2007.

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Plasma is Genie Lord's idea which pleasing me. and plasma is fourth substance form, not something in blood


It's the both thing.

Blood plasma is the liquid component of blood, in which the blood cells are suspended. Plasma is a yellow colored liquid. Plasma is the largest single component of blood, making up about 55 percent of total blood volume.

But do you know what is the plasma substance form? It doesn't look like fire... and you dont need fire to make it, however it have nothing with the fire... but this is your mod and this only my opinion.
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posted April 13, 2007 06:55 PM

Hmmm.... In Battle Zone (a game) you have Assault Tanks which fire with Plasma and the shots are green

It's weird how different people think about plasma...

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posted April 14, 2007 12:51 AM

Ehm, a slight correction here!

There are two types of plasma:

1) Plasma is a general term about a liquid substance, like blood plasma.

2) Plasma is an ionized gas.

The second definition is the physical definition of Plasma. You form plasma by heating normal gasses to extremely high temperatures (examples are Argon plasma which has a temperature about 10.000 degree).

Therefore, the term "plasma" makes perfect sense as an upgrade of something fiery, or more precisely, as the combination of the elements air and fire.
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