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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Modders Workshop > Thread: [Mod] Modificated Bone, Spectral and Ghost Dragons
Thread: [Mod] Modificated Bone, Spectral and Ghost Dragons
Hellburn
Hellburn


Famous Hero
The efreet
posted February 01, 2008 10:22 AM

[Mod] Modificated Bone, Spectral and Ghost Dragons

I have decreased a little the cost of building generators for dwelling 7 and 6; raised the damage of bone dragons from 15-30 to 20-35; increased spectral dragon's: atk (by 1 point), hp (by 10 points), dmg (from 25-35 to 28-37); increased ghost dragon's atk by 2 points, dmg to 30-39, decreased def by 7 points (to 20), hp to 125, add incorporeal ability.

Here you are

http://www.sendspace.com/file/h4ke6a
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DarkShadow
DarkShadow


Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
posted February 01, 2008 09:12 PM

INCORPOREAL LEVEL 7 UNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WEEEOOOOWEEEOOWEEEOOO
*activating time loop*
*removing current ability*
*Ability deleted,balance restored*

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Hellburn
Hellburn


Famous Hero
The efreet
posted February 01, 2008 09:22 PM

Quote:
INCORPOREAL LEVEL 7 UNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WEEEOOOOWEEEOOWEEEOOO
*activating time loop*
*removing current ability*
*Ability deleted,balance restored*

lol? what's wrong about this :/ ? I decreased its defence and hitpoints...
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DarkShadow
DarkShadow


Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
posted February 01, 2008 09:33 PM

id say it would have to be same defence as revenant (or whatever was name of that funny pink ghost)

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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
posted February 01, 2008 09:43 PM

That would be "poltergeist". And there's a reason a tier 3 has the incorporeal ability. Its enough of a pain in the ass.

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DarkShadow
DarkShadow


Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
posted February 01, 2008 09:49 PM
Edited by DarkShadow at 21:50, 01 Feb 2008.

uhhh...pol...polt...pöltörgyist?i cant write it.and yeah,pölts are enuff pain.also it was orginally considered to ghost dragon to have incorp but its defence and hp were same as wigths

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magnomagus
magnomagus


Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
posted February 01, 2008 11:51 PM
Edited by magnomagus at 23:55, 01 Feb 2008.

incorporeal at level 7 is ridiculous, in fact they have now 250 HP= more then almost all level 7 units, while they are supposed to be the weakest. There is no reason to boost necropolis on any stats, they are already voted on CH a short time ago to be the strongest faction. (There are over 500 votes)

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Seraphim
Seraphim


Supreme Hero
Knowledge Reaper
posted February 02, 2008 01:36 AM

I did something different to them.I added frightfull aura to Ghost dragon(damn I need to change its name to horror dragon)and put crippling wound and fear attack to spectral dragon.It is pretty balanced in my eyes this way.Incorporeal is too strong but if there was a partial incorporeal that only decreases damage that would fit better just like the other equivalent to spectrals cursing attack.
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DarkShadow
DarkShadow


Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
posted February 02, 2008 08:43 AM

why not incorp,deadly strike and blindness?

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Hellburn
Hellburn


Famous Hero
The efreet
posted February 02, 2008 09:32 AM

How about just making Sorrow strike better (it's on basic level, advanced or expert should fit) but I don't know how to change it :/
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DarkShadow
DarkShadow


Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
posted February 02, 2008 09:44 AM

no...just no...basic sorrow and aura of rot (rot zombies aura)

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okrane
okrane


Famous Hero
posted February 02, 2008 10:34 AM

oh, just leave them as they are... nobody cares about them anyway...

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Hellburn
Hellburn


Famous Hero
The efreet
posted February 02, 2008 11:55 AM

I care.
Spectral Dragon is much, much better than Ghost Dragon and something should be done about it.
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WarLore
WarLore


Famous Hero
servant of urgash
posted February 02, 2008 12:06 PM

actually incorporeal is little bid overpowered over here.it is not big deal.it is scary only if you have low numbers of groups if dont you can but your tier1 and tier2 creatures to take out miss ability,and then attack your strongest creature agaisnt them,easy also as every body knows spells hit agaisnt them hard. noobs scare incorporeal
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magnomagus
magnomagus


Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
posted February 02, 2008 12:19 PM

Quote:
Spectral Dragon is much, much better than Ghost Dragon and something should be done about it.


Then you should better nerf the spectral dragon instead of boosting the ghost dragon.
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BAD
BAD


Promising
Known Hero
posted February 02, 2008 12:23 PM
Edited by BAD at 12:23, 02 Feb 2008.

Incorporeal is a overpowered ability for HOMM. Spell is even ridiculos.

Anyway, I respect your decision, because is your mod and everyone can have a vision about their games, but incorporeal for HOMM is ability that must be removed at once and no creature should have this.

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MPaBkaTa
MPaBkaTa


Adventuring Hero
Cow lover
posted February 04, 2008 08:49 AM
Edited by MPaBkaTa at 08:50, 04 Feb 2008.

If we remove incorporeal we might as well remove ghosts.And he has got a point spectral,ghost, skeletal dragon are too weak.Maybe decrease stats and add incorporeal but at smaller rate(instead of 50%-25%.

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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted February 04, 2008 10:56 AM

Quote:
If we remove incorporeal we might as well remove ghosts.And he has got a point spectral,ghost, skeletal dragon are too weak.Maybe decrease stats and add incorporeal but at smaller rate(instead of 50%-25%.


They're weak for several reasons :
1. They are the only level 7 with a horde building
2. You can raise them through necromancy

So why do you care about their low stats when you can have about 3 level 7 for each level 7 your opponent has ?

And I agree, Incorporeal to a level 7 is way overpowered ... I don't understand why people want to balance creatures level by level instead of considering all the creatures of an army and all abilities Except for Sylvans, Necropolis is the strongest faction in game currently and you cry because their level 7 is weak ??? Come on ...

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Hellburn
Hellburn


Famous Hero
The efreet
posted February 04, 2008 12:19 PM

@Nelgrith
Quote:
Spectral Dragon is much, much better than Ghost Dragon and something should be done about it.

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