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jimstrom
jimstrom


Hired Hero
posted March 05, 2008 05:28 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 19:28, 02 Apr 2008.

Old forgotten heroes in Heroes V

I recently bought the Heroes V prima guide, and read through the lore and timelines in it, in the book, they mentioned a lot of important characters, that unofrtunatley don't make an apperance in the game.

So i thought, what if those characters could be playable?

the characters are:

Sar-Elam (the first wizard)

King Falcon the Great ( The first king of the human kingdoms and founder of the Falcon empire)

Emperor Brian Falcon (Founder of the Holy Falcon Empire)

Sar-Antor (Deciple to the Dragon of order, and founder of the Blind brothers

Sar-Shazzar (leader of the grand exodus & founder of the Seven Cities)

Sar-Badon (Founder of the Dragon Knights)

Belketh (a disciple of Shar-Shazzar, and the first necromancer)

King Arniel (The elven kingdoms third king)

King Vaniel (Son of Arniel, exiled the dark elves from Irollan)

Tuidhana (The founder of the Dark elf kingdom)

Duke Ivan Griffin (Founder of the Holy Griffin Empire)

Emperor Alexei Griffin IV (Father of Nicolai)

Queen Fiona Griffin (Mother of Nicolai, sister of Godric patron of Markal)

Arch Bishop Randall (He and Godric exiled  Markal after Queen Fionas death)


These are the ones that come to my mind, now to the tricky part to choose models for each one:

Alexei: could maybe use a reskinned Nicolai model.

King Falcon: could use a reskinned Godric model.

Arch Bishop Randall: the one that comes to mind, i maybe a reskinned Zealot model, or a reskinned Alaric.

those left, i can't really decide.








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Adventuring Hero
Overlord Divine
posted March 05, 2008 06:20 PM

Arch-bishop Randall is in the first mission in HoF, altought he looks like an Inquisitor.
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Cepheus
Cepheus


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted March 05, 2008 06:29 PM

The main problem here is that all of those characters are dead in the lore, so thus including them as playable heroes would be totally ridiculous.
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2ndHero
2ndHero


Famous Hero
Floppy Slayer
posted March 05, 2008 06:29 PM

Nice idea, but if you would use this mod and unlock campaign heroes mod, you would have too much heroes, there aren't enough specializations. Bur it would be cool to se Alexei, maybe he could have  grey beard and hair.
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jimstrom
jimstrom


Hired Hero
posted March 06, 2008 02:33 AM

Just what i was thinking!

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Guarder
Guarder


Supreme Hero
posted March 06, 2008 07:46 AM

Quote:
The main problem here is that all of those characters are dead in the lore, so thus including them as playable heroes would be totally ridiculous.

You have a point, but If someone made a scenario or something. Nad also, it would be pretty cool with them.
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magnomagus
magnomagus


Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
posted March 06, 2008 01:03 PM

Here is my Alexei:



And what about using these:
(I gave them beta-names from the gamefiles for now!)








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Drunk_Lord
Drunk_Lord


Known Hero
very happy hero :)
posted March 06, 2008 04:32 PM

@magnomagus:Awesome!

Others: I think it would be nice to see those heroes in single player scenario or even some special minor campaign. Would be very interesting I think
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Adventuring Hero
Overlord Divine
posted March 06, 2008 05:16 PM

I have suggestions for old heroes names on the poitrats with the beta names.

Ildar=King Arniel

Nemor=Belketh

Almegir=Donīt know

Shadwyn=Tuidhana
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magnomagus
magnomagus


Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
posted March 06, 2008 07:40 PM

Yes I had some similar ideas, the second tieru could be vaniel maybe.
these ones could also be taken into consideration:





This was a beta study for nicolai-necro:


And another demon beta study:

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Cepheus
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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted March 06, 2008 07:57 PM

Great work - though the new portraits might look better with a small black rim around the edges, as with all others in the game.

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Seraphim
Seraphim


Supreme Hero
Knowledge Reaper
posted March 06, 2008 08:13 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 23:01, 06 Mar 2008.

Those hero pictures look pretty good.Can I download them somwhere where I can change this pictures to the regular ones.

PS:That demon pic is great.I want to change it with the ugly Nymus picture.

Edit:The nemor pic is also great.Myabe changing it with Markal is great ot make a mod with the undead Markal.
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magnomagus
magnomagus


Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
posted March 06, 2008 08:26 PM

(better don't quote images)

I have got this mod nearly finished, there will be no replacements
All these heroes will be ADDED to the game together with all campaign heroes unlocked, all beta heroes and all characters from dark messiah. I'm only not sure about the names. I can keep these 'neutral' beta names or give names from the list from jimstrom.

Besides my internet connection is a little choppy these days so it may take a little longer to upload everything.
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Guarder
Guarder


Supreme Hero
posted March 06, 2008 08:42 PM

Well, they look cool. Also with the name list, iw would be even bether go on
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magnomagus
magnomagus


Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
posted March 06, 2008 08:56 PM

So far that brings me to the following list:

name in screenshot-name in release:

ildar-arniel
nemor-belketh
shadwyn or itil?-tuidhana
2nd tieru (not in screenshots)-vaniel

tan-fiona (I want to keep her in academy however because there is a lack
of academy heroes)

The others could keep there beta-names as long as there is nothing available.

Isn't there a famous dwarf in H5 history?, because I also have a second hangvul portrait that doesn't look like hangvul2.



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Adventuring Hero
Overlord Divine
posted March 07, 2008 08:22 AM

Hathor Deepstrider Orlandsson is a dwarf that led them in the War under mountain.
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okrane
okrane


Famous Hero
posted March 07, 2008 09:41 AM
Edited by okrane at 09:42, 07 Mar 2008.

The problem with this game is that we cannot create custom abilities for these new heroes. They are all stuck with a special another hero has.

It have been great if it were possible to mod this.

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magnomagus
magnomagus


Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
posted March 07, 2008 02:24 PM

Quote:
The problem with this game is that we cannot create custom abilities for these new heroes. They are all stuck with a special another hero has. It have been great if it were possible to mod this.


Yes, but interchanging specialties between factions creates a lot of new gameplay possibilities, furthermore I could unlock the hidden timeshift ability and create some new destructive magic abilities. Besides that, in heroes 3 nobody seemed to care that a lot of specialties were used a lot of times. I promise this mod will bring a lot more variation to the game,  
there will be almost no clones (looking from a single faction point of view). Almost every hero will have a unique specialty for it's faction.

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2ndHero
2ndHero


Famous Hero
Floppy Slayer
posted March 07, 2008 03:27 PM

Give them unique models, please. It's stupid to have heroes who all have the same model.
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magnomagus
magnomagus


Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
posted March 07, 2008 04:10 PM

I have released the mod.

@Second hero:

I believe this is a sufficient answer to your question:

Quote:
I'm currently losing interest in modding Heroes 5 so, I announce here, that everyone may use the material in this mod to make your own creations. You are allowed to modify all heroes to use them in your maps or campaigns. You can give them different names, models, textures, specs, write bios for them (a lot have no bios) and rerelease them as such. But please do not rerelease this mod itself with modifications.

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