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violent_flower
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posted May 15, 2008 03:22 PM |
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Do You Have a Permit to Carry????
Interesting…..
-“ An HIV-positive man convicted of spitting into the eye and mouth of a Dallas police officer has been sentenced to 35 years in prison.
Because a jury found that Willie Campbell used his saliva as a deadly weapon, the 42-year-old will have to serve half his sentence before becoming eligible for parole. He was sentenced Wednesday.
Campbell was being arrested in May 2006 for public intoxication when he began resisting and kicking inside the patrol car, Dallas police office Dan Waller testified.
Campbell was convicted of harassment of a public servant.”
I felt this to be interesting to say the least. So then what about people that have it but don’t know they have it? Would they be charged with a concealed weapon with intent to inflict harm? Just kidding; all serious aside though, how about those that are having unprotected sex with a partner and know they are infected? What about people that have Herpes which if it attacks the nervous system can cause death and paralysis? If one is diagnosed with AIDS and continues having protected or unprotected sex, do you think that it is a crime that should be punishable by prison time? I know this is a spitting case but lets just look a bit more on the side of what happens on a daily basis.
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Keksimaton
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posted May 15, 2008 04:31 PM |
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I though that HIV only transmits by blood and unprotected sex not through saliva , but thats not what the topic is about.
Kind of sounds like something that might start a law about contageous diseases. Going to work with a flu criminalized? Sounds like some idiotic politician might think that it would be great idea to pass such a law that would in example: Criminalize sex when carrying a sexually transmitted disease and the thing about going to work with a flu.
That would be stupid and if the infamous "Domino Theory" is correct then that law would start spreading across the globe making the world even more filled with laws that are stupid.
Awareness of sexually transmitted diseases should be increased.
P.S. I might be saying off-topic things because I forgot most of the original post when I was writing. So I apologise in advance.
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violent_flower
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posted May 15, 2008 05:09 PM |
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AIDS is carried in the blood stream however during open-mouth kissing a person can just have brushed his/her teeth and caused their gum to bleed etc. Have you ever flossed and your gums have bled? At that point the person on the receiving end can contract the dieses. It is not common but there are documented cases of it. There are already cases of people that have been convicted of having sex with people knowing they are infected. It is only a matter of time before we start seeing more of these cases. I think if you know you have anything like that at all (STD) you should be required to reveal that to a partner. It is deceitful not to. Even if you are using protection.
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Minion
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posted May 15, 2008 05:22 PM |
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Quote: If one is diagnosed with AIDS and continues having protected or unprotected sex, do you think that it is a crime that should be punishable by prison time?
A man was just reasently convicted here of intentionally speading AIDS. I see no question about it what so ever, it most certainly is a crime.
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violent_flower
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posted May 15, 2008 06:01 PM |
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I agree, however it is ones choice whether to have sex, it is not necessary to do so. So in that case is it not self inflicted? It is like saying men are going around knocking up women. We all know the risk we take now a days when we engage in this activity. I know that if I go down on someone I can get Herpes or AIDS. If he gives it me is it his fault or mine? We have to be responsible for our own actions. Sure maybe had I known I would not have but does that excuse my behavior?
Now a women is raped, then we have a crime, right? She had no chioce and was forced.
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ByteBandit
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posted June 26, 2008 02:55 AM |
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I have a CWP. Everytime I go into a big city, I always carry a pistol on me.
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Binabik
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posted June 26, 2008 03:06 AM |
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Quote: If he gives it me is it his fault or mine?
This is similar to the saying "buyer beware". When handing someone money you should be aware that they might be a con artist and take precautions. A person may be stupid or naive enough to fall for a simple con, but if they do, the con artist is still the criminal.
If a person is knowingly infected with a STD and they don't tell you, they have knowingly put you in danger. Whether or not you take precautions against that posibility doesn't change that. Whether or not it was preventable is irrelevant, they still knowingly put you in danger.
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ByteBandit
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posted June 26, 2008 03:06 AM |
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Oops! I thought this about a Concealed Weapons Permit. Sorry.
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Binabik
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posted June 26, 2008 03:09 AM |
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Edited by Binabik at 03:09, 26 Jun 2008.
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The title if VF's threads rarely reflect the subject.
BTW, it's also called CCP in some states (Concealed Carry Permit).
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ByteBandit
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posted June 26, 2008 03:49 AM |
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Okay. In Washington State it's CWP.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted June 26, 2008 03:54 AM |
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Quote: I agree, however it is ones choice whether to have sex, it is not necessary to do so. So in that case is it not self inflicted? It is like saying men are going around knocking up women. We all know the risk we take now a days when we engage in this activity. I know that if I go down on someone I can get Herpes or AIDS. If he gives it me is it his fault or mine? We have to be responsible for our own actions. Sure maybe had I known I would not have but does that excuse my behavior?
Now a women is raped, then we have a crime, right? She had no chioce and was forced.
I don't really have time to get in it but people can go to jail for having sex with individuals when they have an STD. It's considered a battery because they other party didn't consent to have contact with the STD. It's kinda like poison.
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violent_flower
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posted June 26, 2008 10:52 PM |
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@ BINK
I know the title always throws them off. However they need to take the time to read the thread before commenting...
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Asheera
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posted June 27, 2008 01:31 PM |
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Quote: I agree, however it is ones choice whether to have sex, it is not necessary to do so. So in that case is it not self inflicted? It is like saying men are going around knocking up women. We all know the risk we take now a days when we engage in this activity. I know that if I go down on someone I can get Herpes or AIDS. If he gives it me is it his fault or mine?
If he knows he has AIDS and doesn't tell you then it's certainly a crime in my eyes.
However, if he doesn't know or knows but tells you then it's your responsibility if you want to do it.
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del_diablo
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posted June 27, 2008 04:36 PM |
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Well.........
1. The person infected with AIDS/etc is not telling the sex partner of its infection = crime.
2. The infected person does not know/tells its sex partner = a completely different case.
Rape is to be punished anyway, it will just stack up ALOT during the sentence.
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